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LEXX
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posted January 16, 2012 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Should I end it?

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posted January 16, 2012 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 16, 2012 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
where is ur chart?

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posted January 16, 2012 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are these helpful?

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posted January 16, 2012 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for amianne yes

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posted January 16, 2012 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you in love?

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posted January 16, 2012 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you.
And yes I am.
Do not want to go into lots of details here.
Maybe a few years from now things could perhaps work.
But for 2012 or even 2013,
I do not see that as realistic.
And if my health does not improve dramatically,
it will not work for many reasons.
I feel he needs to get out and date others
and figure out what he wants out of life.
I simply do not fit into his ideas of things
well enough at this time and may never fit,
nor him mine.
I'd rather release him and have him explore other options and meet other women,
than us both spinning in limbo on opposite sides of the planet.
He needs to find I feel someone more in tune with his lifestyle and intense interests that seriously clash with mine.
And someone living closer to him.
I need to let go of my yearnings and focus on reality for awhile and things I must do before trying to move on with my personal life.
My being disabled is a serious factor that will not help things in a relationship.
That is part of my reality.

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posted January 16, 2012 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow what a heartfelt story you have. Amianne can look at your chart for you and there are also others who can and will help, all you have to do is keep buumping up to the top of the forum so they see you and you get noticed cheer up I'm sure if this guy loves you nothing is going to stop him from being with you. How unselfish of you to give him that choice though. you have a good heart for that.

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posted January 17, 2012 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 17, 2012 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Lexx,

that sounds really tough.

However, for a horary you need to write down the day and time and location, when the question arose so strongly that you wanted to ask a horary for that.

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posted January 17, 2012 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Hello Lexx,

that sounds really tough.

However, for a horary you need to write down the day and time and location, when the question arose so strongly that you wanted to ask a horary for that.


It would be when I posted the question.
posted Monday January 16, 2012 06:23 PM
Ashtabula, Ohio
U.S.A.
my home.

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posted January 17, 2012 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this is the horary chart

Part of Divorce: 27°13 Sagittarius in 5th house

Part of Marriage:16°41 Cancer in 12th house

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LEXX
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posted January 17, 2012 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you.
However this is not about divorce/marriage.
My ex to be and I are best friends and still live together due to financial issues and being our LDR love interests are not in a position either due to financial and logistic factors....
So ex husband to be and I are still co-habitating in a platonic room mate capacity because logically it just makes sense at this time.
He is gay and has a love interest and so do I.
So this is not about him/us.

This horary question concerns my love interest only, not my ex husband to be.

PS.
I also have no idea how to read the horary chart.

Thank you nevertheless!

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posted January 17, 2012 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your significators are:
Sun in Capricorn in 6th house
Moon in Scorpio in 4th house
Venus in Pisces in 8th house

The 6th and 8th house are being considered malefic in medieval astrology (and horary is of medieval origin). In this case it could indicate your healthproblems.
But even if this is not the case here, two of your significators in watersigns show the high sensitivity and emotionality / intensity you are feeling.
But these planets also show that you do not have much strength to act on your feelings, even though your love is deep and pure (Venus is exalted in Pisces).


Your main significator falls into your partner`s turned 12th house, which could indicate that he literally cannot see you.

Your main sig Sun is in saturn, where it is ruled by him (his significator is Saturn), which means that you love him.
Your emotional significator Moon has just left the sign of Saturn`s exaltation; so you were infatuated / smitten with him, but something`s changed, when Moon changed into Scorpio.
Venus also has just left the sign where it was ruled by him, Saturn, so it again points to a past love.

You main significator, your personality and mind, will go on to love him though (it will change into Aquarius, but this is also ruled by Saturn).


his significator Saturn is in Libra, exalted, but on the last degree, on the verge of changing signs into Scorpio.
He was and still loves Venus very much, but soon he will start to become more interested in Mars; in Scorpio he will be in the detriment of Venus AND Moon. This might indicate a separation from you, probably an unwanted one.
On the other hand, as long as he is in Libra, he is in the fall of Sun, which is also not a positive placement.

I`d say this shows true affection on the one hand, but something just doesn`t feel right. Like it cannot be really expressed as it should between lovers.
Plus we have all these significators changing signs, which is always a sign that there will be an important change in relationships.


Venus is separating from a trine to Saturn, and Moon is separating from a conjunction to Saurn. This indicates the love union or loving meeting that happened in the past, but both aspects are separating.
Sun (you) will square Saturn(him) though, so there will be another contact, but there might be delays, obstacles, blocked paths, frustration. And even if you meet, it might not be as you want it. Though sometimes things can improve after a bumpy start.


AFter a signchange Saturm (he) will be in the fall of the dispositor of the part of marriage, while Sun (you) is in the detriment of the Part of marriage.
Those are quite negative receptions in relation to the Part of Marriage, so maybe both of you will feel that you cannot go on like this (though he might not be there mentally yet).

Then I also calculated the part of Divorce, which is exactly conjunct VErtex, the point of fated encounters or events. This is in his turned 11th house, and I just read that the 11th house sometimes relates to things we can`t change. So in this case he might feel like he can`t change it, as if he has no influence in the matter.


Sun is in the fall of the dispositor of the Part of Divorce and Venus is is int he exaltation of the Part of Divorce. This shows that you are torn inside. A part of you thinks it is the right thing to do, bu the other part loathes the thought of separation wholeheartedly.

Moon which is your co-significator, has just left an opposition to the dispositor of the part of Divorce, Jupiter.
It means that you got separated, even though in some corner you might wish you hadnīt. Again it signfies how what you think is best, is very painful for you.


the last thing I want to comment on is how your two significators have been joined in the 4th house, actually his significator is even conjunct its cusp. And the 4th house often is about endings.
Well, it is about the end of the matter, indicating how things will turn out, and since both your significators are there and separating from each other, I think it might mean exactly that. Separation. And probably it will be you who make the final choice (Moon is moving away from Saturn).

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Please keep in mind though that I am quite a beginner in horary astrology and need more practice. So take it all with a grain of salt please.

EDIT:
BTW DIVORCE / MARRIAGE does not relate to the legal terms, but also signifies separation / union of other one-on-one relationships.

EDIT 2:
It is possible that this rather points to your ex-husband, than your love interest. Especially with your separating significators being in the 4th house, which also can signify the home and house.

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posted January 17, 2012 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some would probably use the ruler of the 5th house to signify your love interest. So let me have a look, if that changes things.

His Sig then would be Jupiter in Taurus.

Sun in Cap is in the fall of Jupiter.
Venus in PIsces is in the exaltation of Jupiter.
So a mixed reception.

Your romantic and sexual nature is completely besotted with him, while your thinking and personality is negatively affected. Most books have that as "dislike" or even "loathing", but in the case of mixed receptions (good and bad) I hve not found that to be true in every case.
Rather it places you more in a place of powerlessness and vulnerability BECAUSE you love him, but are somehow prohibited to express that love.

Jupiter in Taurus is ruled by Venus and in the exaltation of Moon - so this would signify very strong feelings from him to you.

As a matter of fact Venus and Jupiter are in mutual reception and have just separated from a sextile, signaling a very loving meeting / union that has happened not too long ago.


Moon on the other hand has just left an opposition to Jupiter, signifying separative influences.

Moon is also in his turned 12th house - did you kind of disappeared from view? Cause what is in the 12th house often seems hidden or cannot be seen.


There will be no other applying aspect from your significators to his significator - so unfortunately a separation or at least a break is very likely.


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posted January 17, 2012 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceridwen
Thank you!
I feel you read well!
It does all fit him and to some degree the first reading my ex husband to be/roomie.
But most does fit me and my love interest.
We have not met in person yet.
I am in an intense state of hesitation about meeting.
Several months ago it was a top desire of mine.
Now it scares me and the vibes say wait till Fall at earliest, or even years from now.
He is not ready for me, even though he may feel he is.
We come from two vastly different worlds and lifestyles and I cannot see things working out in reality at anytime in the near future.

Love is deep but even love cannot overcome all obstacles.

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posted January 17, 2012 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

So yeah,
I need to put it all on hold,
hope he does some exploring his options and gets out and meets others and finds out what he really wants out of life and love.
I love him enough that I'd rather see him happy with someone else than miserable or unsatisfied with me.
Same for my ex husband to be.
I hope it works out with his guy.
I like his guy a lot so far.
It is nice seeing my ex2b happy at last.


Thank you again Ceridwen {{{hugs}}}


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posted January 18, 2012 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone else?
Ami?
Thanks in advance.

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posted January 21, 2012 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the feedback.

I want to correct one thing though, I was making a mistake.
It is true that his significator is Saturn in Libra, and thus very much interested in you. And then I was thinking it will be moving into Scorpio and lose interest in you thus. But actually I realized today that it will be turning retograde, so it will spend even more time in Libra.

I guess that would stress his affection for you even more.

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posted January 21, 2012 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump one more time!

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~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine.~Никола Тесла
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posted January 21, 2012 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Thank you for the feedback.

I want to correct one thing though, I was making a mistake.
It is true that his significator is Saturn in Libra, and thus very much interested in you. And then I was thinking it will be moving into Scorpio and lose interest in you thus. But actually I realized today that it will be turning retograde, so it will spend even more time in Libra.

I guess that would stress his affection for you even more.



Thank you!
I just saw your latest reply to me.
That is good news even though
I am not getting on well with him at the moment.
The love is deep and real.
The relationship needs more time to evolve and see where/when it goes.
I know I must not rush things nor let him do so.
But reality must be taken seriously.
Air castles are not stable places.

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posted January 21, 2012 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lexx,

here is link on how to read horary charts that I found very helpful:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12782

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posted January 21, 2012 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lexx,

I second everthing you wrote. It sounds very sound and wise and realistic. Though I have found how heartbreaking being realistic sometimes can be.

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posted January 21, 2012 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by amelia28:
Lexx,

here is link on how to read horary charts that I found very helpful:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12782


Thank you amelia28 !

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posted January 21, 2012 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Lexx,

I second everthing you wrote. It sounds very sound and wise and realistic. Though I have found how heartbreaking being realistic sometimes can be.


Thank you Ceridwen.

Yes,
VERY heartbreaking.
But at this time logic and reality must be,
not those most likely will never be air castles,
and even the could be,
that cannot be for perhaps years to come.
My being much older and disabled, and on different sides of the planet......
yeah, big factor.
And even though it has been several years since meeting online, I still do not feel I know him well enough, and nor do we have enough in common.
Good chance I could never physically make such a move and nor does he wish to do so.
So,

That is that barring a huge miracle.

Edit to ad April 2012.
It is over with the boyfriend.
Staying with husband.

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