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posted January 20, 2012 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi swetehart... havnt said hello to u in two three days how r u ?

well, finally , i broke up

1. will i ever be financially independnt ? (dnt wanna suck parents' money anymore plz)

(nd i knw its stupid , bt dnt wanna accept any compensation money from divorce...just wanna throw it in his face and make him realize i wasnt after his possessions , but his love)

2. do u see me switching careers? (it'll give me insight on , whether i should go for psychology nd that career , or if i should continue preparing for other exams and do dentistry only)

3. do u see me settling abroad or my native land ?

ok, so , curious about the readings....
and is it a favoruable time to apply to universities against all odds and hurdles?please see if u can check anything..thanks
i would post my natal , my transits..

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posted January 20, 2012 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


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posted January 20, 2012 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait a second---You broke up with your husband??
What happened? Is it for sure?

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posted January 20, 2012 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by start6030:
hi swetehart... havnt said hello to u in two three days how r u ?

well, finally , i broke up...and the way he broke my trust , i have started having a negative feeling in me...he turned my life into a mess....and guess what , even after all this , he still feels he is the one who has to keep attitude and complain and is in hardship and all...hmm..anyways , we will talk in private..it gives me comfort...

i wil edit the post after u hv read it , so that we dnt hav to change threads for the reading.
so, am a dentist...full licensed in a country , half way through in the second(damn , i screwed that budding career coz of marriage and changing location) , and then this third one where i passed an exam jst 3 months ago.

i hav never been financially independnt...coz parents were alwas happily paying for my studies...(they r not affluent though) , but their biggest happiness was to see us (me and brother) gettign higher and higher education .

due to cultural issues , and coz i feel i wont feel it easy to handle myself , and face people (oh , am weak that way) , the best suited option is to fly away from the country. dont want to go to country 2 either . certainly , want to go to country 3. honestly want to study...and want to study psychology this time...or rehabilitation studies...and then , settle there... but not sure if i can do what am dreaming about, coz , my ex is in country 3 . nd we r not yet divorced. and i know immigration , they would find it hard to accept that i actually wanna go there for studying and coz of my earlier spouse visa rejection , will always suspect me perhaps (whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy) ...

so am here , with u

1. will i ever be financially independnt ? (dnt wanna suck parents' money anymore plz)

(nd i knw its stupid , bt dnt wanna accept any compensation money from divorce...just wanna throw it in his face and make him realize i wasnt after his possessions , but his love)

2. do u see me switching careers? (it'll give me insight on , whether i should go for psychology nd that career , or if i should continue preparing for other exams and do dentistry only)

3. do u see me settling abroad or my native land ?

ah , some 5 years back , an astrologer (i dnt know where did she come from... i never could find her again....wish i had trusted her that day and accepted tot ake her contact number...she was sittign there , nd she herself called me to her and told me thigns , and tried giving me her contact numbber..i was too young at that time..only 20)so she told me this exact description of getng married at 25 , and description of my husband, his work , how we'd meet , and this breakup....all the time i kept thinking about , she told me u will get settled at a foreign land...and that will be coz of ur own efforts, not through anyone.


ok, so , curious about the readings....
and is it a favoruable time to apply to universities against all odds and hurdles?please see if u can check anything..thanks
i would post my natal , my transits..



I am not good enough to do predictive astrology, but I think you should continue with dentistry, from my intuition.

Please, come and be my dentist. I am afraid of them

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posted January 21, 2012 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for start6030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aww... i would love to... but am jst so annoyed with dentistry right now..however , i feel this has smthng strong to do with me...becoz i tried leaving it midway for like 4 times , nd everytime , i hv to come back to it....

i loved being in USA... but I left it for my husband.... so emotionally , it seems very tough for me to come back ...coz it will alws haunt me with the memories of what i lost....
.may be it will end with time...i wish !

p.s. > i hate my dentists too

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posted January 21, 2012 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still don't get why he left you, after such a short time? You can write me if you want to talk more about it.

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posted January 22, 2012 10:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by start6030:
hi swetehart... havnt said hello to u in two three days how r u ?

well, finally , i broke up

1. will i ever be financially independnt ? (dnt wanna suck parents' money anymore plz)

(nd i knw its stupid , bt dnt wanna accept any compensation money from divorce...just wanna throw it in his face and make him realize i wasnt after his possessions , but his love)

2. do u see me switching careers? (it'll give me insight on , whether i should go for psychology nd that career , or if i should continue preparing for other exams and do dentistry only)

3. do u see me settling abroad or my native land ?

ok, so , curious about the readings....
and is it a favoruable time to apply to universities against all odds and hurdles?please see if u can check anything..thanks
i would post my natal , my transits..


these sorts of questions are probably best asked using horary charts. I don't have any interest or expertise in this field....

What Astrology Can and Can Not Do http://www.ofspirit.com/susanmiller1.htm http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/whatastrologycandoforyou.html http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_kdvalue_e.htm

It would have been nice to see your progressions and solar arcs???

synastry and divorce http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13745&highlight=synastry+divorce http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32646&highlight=Divorce
Synastry & divorce--- really great article, well worth reading----- http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=0OJgX88KKMsC&pg=PA46&lpg=PA46&dq=astrolog y+2nd+marriage&source=bl&ots=DoV__K_IQS&sig=dI1UAX 5oprrQLtfzYUrJ4_XzuKU&hl=en&ei=zBV0SsfnHYqhjAf5rN2 nBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6#v=onepa ge&q=&f=false

solar arcs & secondary progressions http://www.kepler.edu/videos/0902SolarArc/Stathis_SolarArc_Feb09.pdf

“2) The aspects formed by the progressed MC, ASC, Sun, and the planets (other than the Moon). These will indicate major trends for a year or more surrounding the date on which they become exact.” http://www.astrologymatch.com/progressed-chart.htm

The most important of progressed planets is of course, sun & moon and then upto mars, as the outer planets hardly move by progression. Now like with transits, solar arcs --- it's what these progressed planets are doing NOW by mathematical aspect to your natal planets and Angles that is ultimately important.


progressed planets/charts are more 'internal' changes, evolvements rather than 'events or external' matters. I don't read prog charts as stand alones it's more important to see where these planets are moving in the natal chart

Your natal chart is like a photograph as unique as your fingerprint, BUT the 10planets in the sky have not stayed where they were in your natal chart, they have all moved. Predictive astrology is mostly maths where those 10planets are now and the mathematical aspects they make to your natal charts ie: 180'=opposition, 90'=square, 60'=sextile and 120'=trine.

So your personality, grows, develops, changes, matures as we get older, this is reflected by your sun sign changing from it's natal position to the next sign along, so does your Asc and MC sign change. In fact from sun to mars especially are important, as the outer planets really don't move much, using a 'day for a year' secondary progressions.

What's the difference between Transits and Progressions?
“Transits are the planets currently orbiting in the sky and the relationships they form to each other and additionally, to your chart. Transits happen for everyone. They're important and effect you personally when they contact a planet or point in your chart. Transits represent outside energy, things happening outside yourself. They describe external events and your responses to them. Progressions, however, move very slowly and are a natural progression of your original birth chart. The events and emotions they describe are part of you, deeply ingrained in your psyche, internal, and psychological. And as they form aspects, these inner feelings start to become more important and central to your life” http://www.artcharts.com/learn_astrology/progressed.html

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venus is afflicted by opp to uranus, which is a divorce aspect

sun/mars quincunx neptune may answer some questions regarding relationships to...

Sun quincunx neptune
“shows that you consider your responsibilities the most pressing in the world. There is an element of self sacrifice. You really believe people who suggest that only you can solve their problems. Because of this martyr quality, you seek the most demanding jobs or human situations in order to test your commitment to service. Unsure of yourself you continually try to find ways to prove your competence, but deplete your own energies.
Professional success will be difficult to achieve because of your preoccupation with endless trivia. Exaggerating the importance of superficial matters, you tend to get bogged down by them.”

From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Sun Quincunx Neptune
“Your energy tends to be directed unrealistically. Your own sense of self changes as you learn from your own misappraisals of situations that are important to you. If you feel drained or frustrated it is always helpful to look at your overall direction in life and determine if you have taken on more through your high ideals than your physical vitality can sustain. It is always worthwhile to see how your ideas are received by others, to see if you can involve them in your vision. When you can't, avoid trying to do everything yourself. Slow down” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

mars quincunx Neptune
This suggests to me you are drawn to 'questionable relationships' with a tendency to dismiss or overlook pertinent factors as insignificant until you realise it's too late and perhaps you should have paid more attention.

"Your idealism and inflated expectations of others and life can lead you into very frustrating circumstances where you feel emotionally and physically drained. Your energy and emotions strengthen as you learn how and where to be involved in other people's projects. You have difficulty learning realistic boundaries with others and realistic limits as to what you can expect from yourself. Artistic expression can help give form to your humanitarian temperament." http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

Sometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings.

Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesis
What tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...

If someone has the ‘generational Pluto sextile neptune’ (born after 1940) then there is always a possibility of creating a temporary Yod with quicker moving planets, progressions, solar arcs even and difficult situations where you could be forced into making decisions and worrying that you have made the wrong one. Saturn, Uranus are generational to and unless these two fall in first quadrant (the most personal) the may not even be felt if they create a temporary Yod…this could be *transformation through suffering* type aspect

this neptune is also a singleton ie: only planet in earth element or planets in earth houses to help compensate. What do you do to compensate for this I wonder?

Singleton planets
“If a planet happens to be the only one in an element, quality, or house type, that planet is a Singleton and it can funnel all of the “energy” of the horoscope. This planet is often the most important one in the horoscope. In other words, if you just interpret the position of this one planet by sign, house, and aspect, you will get to the “heart of the horoscope”. The effect is the same as if that planet were the only one on one side of the chart.” http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/13.0Singletons.htm http://www.astrologyclub.org http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/singleton.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-2334.html
(There is a book out by Shirley Lyons Meier, "Elemental Voids, More than Meets the Eye", which gives a good discussion of missing elements.) The Inferior Function can be a source of great motivation and creative expression. http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/singletons/intro/singleton_intro.htm

Lack of elements http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18077 http://www.astrology-numerology.com/elements.html http://www.astrology.aryabhatt.com/Astrology_Elements.asp http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm http://www.astrologyclub.org/article.../inferior2.htm http://www.nanceestar.com/elements.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=319747&posted=1#post319747

re: relationships, ruler of 1st and 7th jupiter and mercury, don't make an aspect but this Venus in 7th in gemini (the most flirtatious sign you can have it) is also Apex for kite configuration..

Kite http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/aspectpatterns.html
“Whenever a person has a kite in his chart, he is considered to be more likely to be successful in his endeavours because the opposition will give him the push to go out and conquer the obstacles that are presented to him, and the sextiles will give him a little bit more harmony once he has achieved his goals.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kite_aspect http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/aspect-patterns2.html http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/glossary/glossary_k.htm

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posted January 22, 2012 10:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun square pluto show problems relating to father,men, authority figures. Now mars square pluto is just as problematic as it really needs to be doing something physical, like sports, mountain climbing, martial arts, bungee jumping...
http://www.celestialperspective.com/library/marspluto-aspectswhat-determines-theyre
mars/Pluto aspects by Donna Cunningham

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Saturn in 12th retro shows a missing, absent or ineffectual father. Saturn quincunx venus can also show lack of affection in early childhood...

venus quincunx Saturn http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=323983&postcount=22
restriction and lack of affection in childhood. Father, males and/or (saturn) authority figure may not understand what brings you pleasure (venus)

Venus Quincunx Saturn
“You have difficulty seeing what you are actually responsible for in relationships. Consequently, you take on more responsibilities than necessary in order to insure the continuation of your relationships. Do people like you for you or because of what you do for them? You are easily confused on this point. If you are busy doing things for people, they never get a chance to know the real you.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

saturn in 12th house can show a father either absent, missing or simply effectual in setting boundaries structures and alike in early childhood. psychological or physical absence of a father (or authority figure) who worked, or who provided a model for you in terms of discipline, organisation, and coping with the realities of everyday living, you were not encouraged to develop your ambition or your competitive spirit, or to believe in your potential for success. This can add listlessness and not finding ones direction

Serve or suffer are the keynotes here and the individual can choose which way he will take: but choose he must. Always a subconscious wish to retreat.
Craving for solitude. Great sensitivity. A deep seated selfishness has to be dissolved through suffering. These people need a sense of inner purpose and make good behind the scenes organisers. They often suffer from an inexplicable fear of authority or concern about the future, and should find a way to develop self confidence.
Capable of bringing stability into other people’s lives, by helping and organising those less fortunate than yourself.
Don’t like to acknowledge figures of authority (including parental)

Saturn can indicate deep seated loneliness, fear or guilt, despair or negativity which may be difficult to confront. But it also shows the ability to apply yourself with determination and/or ¬concen¬tration to some SOLITARY TASK perhaps to your work, which helps you to bring order to the internal chaos.

the often hidden weakness that having saturn here can suggest with Saturn or Capricorn here, you hesitate to openly express and come to terms with your negative feelings, particularly fear, guilt, loneliness, and mistrust. Because you haven't dealt with the fear and self doubt, which inhibit you, you may deny your desire for professional accomplishment. This Saturnian influence can manifest as psychological rigidity and withholding, due to inability to let go of past patterns. You above all, need to come to terms with your repression.

Saturn's strength and positive side here provides inner strength and self discipline, a capacity to cope with loneliness and handle responsibility, and a ¬willingness to work on your own with determination and ¬perseverance.

This house is where you learn to 'become whole' you could reject or deny someone you love.

for further clues as to how the 12th operates. look to where the ruler is and how it's aspected...
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm

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Pluto in Equal house system is conj 12th house cusp and is said to be more effective in the next house along going anti clockwise..

Basic astrology forum discussing Saturn in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000660.html

Basic astrology forum discussing Neptune in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000661.html


Basic astrology forum discussing Uranus in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000662.html

Basic astrology forum discussing Pluto in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000663.html

moon square neptune shows confusions, illusions connected to mother
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42260&highlight=moon+square+neptune

Transiting neptune is currently forming a temporary YOD with sun/mars and natal neptune. so anything aspecting these two will *SET OFF* this YOD

T Pluto is coming upto a square to natal moon this year and T uranus is makinga nice easy trine to sun/mars

chiron conj venus shows a wound around relationships but also an opportunity to heal them through relationships. you could be very good at advising friends and family on thier relationship issues while not being able to fix your own...

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With regards to career changes, we look to MC in virgo, this wants to look after all the little details, is a perfectionist, quite often have interests in health and hygeine type industries as well as service, in fact all 6th house matters.... http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr6

Ruler of the Tenth House in the Ninth House

"Your career could require long distance travel or even travel overseas. You can teach what you have already been successful at. In other words you could teach others your career. You may have a strong sense of duty towards religious principles or a spiritual path of some kind. Perhaps you want to be responsible for your own higher education and/or developing your own belief system." http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr10

Money & you http://www.astrotheme.com/files/money_and_you.php http://www.cafeastrology.com/astrologytopics/astrology_of_money_wealth.html
career significators http://www.librarising.com/astrology/misc/significators.html http://www.janetboyer.com/Midheaven_in_Sagittarius.html

Professional & Destiny http://www.astrotheme.com/files/astrology_professional_destiny.php
sticky in vocational astrology forum http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32775
Astro’s vocation section http://www.babybirthchart.com/zodiac-signs/midheaven/ http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_vocation2_n.htm?lang=z

Career options are assessed by MC any planets conjunct, where the ruler of MC is placed, it’s aspects, then 2nd house ‘how you earn your money’ and planets there, ruler of cusp and where it’s placed, then 6th house of ‘type of work you do’ any planets there and how they are aspected.

Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesDerived.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivative_house http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm
http://aliceportman.com/?p=1310

Ruler of the Second House in the Twelfth House

"You place a high value on idealistic concepts such as forgiveness and helping others altruistically. Or perhaps you have a talent for receiving and perceiving spiritual guidance, healing and other related metaphysical gifts.
There is an indication that some of your money may go into large public institutions and charities, or you may earn money through them somehow. If you ever experience periods where your feelings of self worth are below par and are interfering with a solid sense of security, then you may benefit from some professional analysis sessions. Likewise, meditation can be a self help technique that will stimulate positive self awareness." http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr2

does anything here resonate??

ruler of 6th in 7th opens possibilities to forming a business partnership, and/or with a partner...

When T Jupiter gets to 2' Taurus it will cross into 6th house for 12months, but watch in an ephemeris when it gets to North Node at 14' taurus, as this will be connected to your *life Lessons* with work, co-workers and type of work you do..
http://www.khaldea.com/ephemcenter.shtml

If you want to learn how to use an ephemeris try here.. http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42496

here is my favourite online ephemeris which plots where the planets are for hundreds of years...

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i want to end this pain

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Originally posted by start6030:
@Ami > i "already" am writing u a longggg email.....bt there were some power failures here , so as soon as i complete it , am gonna send it it is helping me be a little stable as am again analysing where things went wrong..but in brief , throughout the month , (As u all saw) , i was crying here, trying to mend our relationship.....i however , knew little , that as soon as i came back from there , he had given in written to the immigration , that he was NOT MARRIED to me (only law would question if a person says we r nt married nd we present all the proofs of marriage on the other hand... immigration will just take it as a statement from the sponsor and say > hey girl , u dnt hav sponsorship anymore, so , visa rejected


i really dnt know WHY EXACTLY HE DID THAT...SINCE WHEN HE WAS PLANNING THIS WHOLE THING...WAS HIS LOVE REAL OR FAKE FOR ME...and WHY DOES HE STILL TRYING TO BEFOOL ME !!

the day i got rejection letter , i called him politely. am obviosuly not after his PR..i hav my own visas to USA, just that i didnt hav visas to his country. and being apart , i was sure once we get together , at least we could talk better nd had a way out...

he has a friend who he trusts blindly, coz he , instead of telling him to work on the marriage , is just supporting him like , dnt worry , thigns would be fine.... so my ex feels that frnd is ACTUALLY understanding him and trying to give him peace nd support


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