posted January 20, 2012 03:50 PM            

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posted January 20, 2012 04:21 PM            

but i have to say that from the picture from the site i could guess that your scorp asc

how people react to you when they first meet you, do they seem to base an opinion on you very quickly with even really knowing you first?

can you appear strong and authoritative when you want to?

did you have trouble with self expression in the past?

can you see people for who they really are even when they are trying to hide it?

have people said that youre too serious?

i know it seems much like copy-paste questions but i think il get better in this with time :P

posted January 20, 2012 04:39 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
well ive seen it very popular to ask questions during a reading so il give you some

but i have to say that from the picture from the site i could guess that your scorp asc

how people react to you when they first meet you, do they seem to base an opinion on you very quickly with even really knowing you first?

can you appear strong and authoritative when you want to?

did you have trouble with self expression in the past?

can you see people for who they really are even when they are trying to hide it?

have people said that youre too serious?

i know it seems much like copy-paste questions but i think il get better in this with time :P

ill be waiting for you anwsers

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It is nice to be on this end. Yes, I can be too serious, but it is because I am terrified of making a mistake lol

I can see right through people, to the degree that I shut it down because I was afraid of it. I did not how to handle what I knew
I am just opening up to it, in my real life.

Yes, self expression is my hardest thing and what I want the most. Where do you get this last one?

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posted January 20, 2012 04:49 PM            

The first house stands for the way in which an individual projects personal energies onto others. This house is fundamental in defining an individual’s personality and Saturn’s presence here is particularly significant. Saturn in the first house people might have a stern exterior. People may comment, “You look so different when you smile!” When you smile the stern exterior drops. Saturn’s presence in the first house can make you more aware than others of right or wrong in a societal way. Responsibility will be a major concern in your actions. Demands from people around you will dominate your consciousness. You will probably find it extraordinarily difficult to place yourself ahead of others. Guilt and anxiety might haunt you over issues that others, without this influence, might not consider significant. This misplaced guilt and anxiety may create false sentimentality and attachment to surroundings to the point of neurosis. You are hard on yourself. Self-assertion at work and home might be stressful. Develop awareness about your guilt and anxiety attacks. Fight the guilt by thinking things through by yourself or with someone you feel comfortable with. To avoid the guilt and anxiety your best bet is to lay low and first let people around you articulate and take what they want and need. Then take what you want. It’s rather important for Saturn first house people to have spouses and partners who understand their self-assertion issue. An understanding spouse or partner will go a long way towards making life pleasant.
~Café Astrology

Saturn is positioned in your first house, so it too becomes an important element of your personality. This placement suggests a conservative slant in your personality. You project a certain stiffness, seriousness, and determination reflected in your presentation of yourself to the world. You can become somewhat of a law unto oneself, trying to dominate others with whom you come in contact. Your disposition is serious and resolute making it hard for you ever to relax and have a good time. You are highly self-disciplined, but prone to depression at times. You have to deal with a very sharp conflict in your nature imposed by Saturn, as your demeanor can be a cover up for a shyness or an inferiority complex. Your personality is more restricted than may have been suggested by the Rising sign or by the Sun and Moon placements. This planet adds much stability to your nature, a serious side, if you will. A solid sense of self-worth may be slow to develop.
~Astrology-Numerology.com

Saturn in the first house is not good from the perspective of health. The native usually suffers from a certain inferiority complex, which must be overcome. The sense of personal identity and self-worth is slow to develop, but in this position a solid and reliable personality is eventually bound to emerge. This is one of the more favorable positions for Saturn because the native is able to control the necessary disciplines of life. He learns to do this from the very beginning. Overcoming restrictions and limitations becomes second nature to these natives. Because they naturally move slowly and appraise situations more carefully before they jump, these natives tend to know what they need and are able to concentrate more effectively on its attainment.

posted January 20, 2012 04:50 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
you have to be more clear about what you mean in "last one"
english isnt my native lang :P

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OK Your English is wonderful!
I meant--where did you get the thought that self expression was very hard for me, as it IS my biggest struggle.

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posted January 20, 2012 04:52 PM            

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posted January 20, 2012 04:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OK Your English is wonderful!
I meant--where did you get the thought that self expression was very hard for me, as it IS my biggest struggle.

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from personal experiance.....

as capricorn is saturns ruler having cap asc is like having saturn in 1st and i had self-expression problems too

posted January 21, 2012 03:04 AM            

My mother was a very engulfing person who wanted me to be "her", not I. I was very punished for wanting to have an "I" even.

Echo Conjmy ASC describes it perfectly

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posted January 21, 2012 03:28 AM            

as i tend to see it echo will also help you see people from their viewpoint and saturn will help you build a strong solid personality that will help you deal with your echo

but it all must start with sheding your fears and let your personality be expressed freely

and if someone cant accept your personality and try to change you then they dont deserve you

you already know the from my experience i had people who wanted to change me... they just seemed like my friend but there were far away from that... and untill i got rid of them i had suffered alot

posted January 21, 2012 11:51 AM            

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posted January 21, 2012 12:50 PM            

also i have a theory

house 8 is also sometimes called the house of secrets

i belive having sun and moon in the 8th makes most of your personality hidden from you untill you decide to take a shovel and start digging deep into your mind

but sometimes people find it hard to dig and search for their true self and with other placements (like your echo) another personality can be forced apon the one that lays buried

i belive that have already seen much in your life and probably found yourself...or most of youself...already but i just wanted to share my theory with you that echo and saturn are not the only "personality repressors"

throw me a comment anytime ^^

posted January 21, 2012 01:09 PM            

Your insights are so valuable to me DL
Thank you! x

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posted January 21, 2012 04:37 PM            

aere there any events after your teens that caused you to lose your sense of self? (you dont have to anwser this if you dont want to)

posted January 21, 2012 08:31 PM            

I lost my sense of self, in an instant. I remember the exact moment. I had been a normal kid with friends, activities, a lot of laughing, as I was the kind of person to think everything was funny. I was just starting to go school dances and to dates to the movies with boys.

My mother had been very mean to me my whole life. I thought my father was on my side and saw it, for what it was, but was too weak to tell me.

I asked him, "Is there something wrong with her or is it me?"

He said, "There is nothing wrong with her" I went numb, from then until now.

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posted January 21, 2012 08:49 PM            

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posted January 21, 2012 08:56 PM            

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posted January 22, 2012 08:56 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
im glad you feel safe enough to tell me about your pain

have you managed to move on from such a terrible experiance?

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Aw, that was so sweet. No, I haven't moved on The asteroids are what are enabling me to move on, now, as they tell my story, and the story of others.

That is why I am so passionate about this. Our stories are written in the charts, in the asteroids, particularly.

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posted January 22, 2012 09:06 AM            

maybe you should try to put your emotions down on paper

write a letter to your mother and in it write down everything you feel about her and what she did

i belive writing painfull emotions down on paper can be a very healing experience

also if youd like.... chiron lies in your third house of communication.... writing is a form of communication and so might be a form of healing for you

the desicion to do so is yours alone and i cant guarantee that it will work but i do belive its worth a shot