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Topic: What do you think of this synastry?
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Jounia
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posted January 28, 2012 01:02 PM
  
Hello, I would appreciate thoughts on this synastry - this is not my synastry, it is a friend's. They are not married, but have been in a relationship for 13 years and have children. The guy is on the outside and the woman inside. Any thoughts would be much appreciated! Many thanks!! xx Synastry
 Synastry - orbfact 40%
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 Composite with Orb reduction 40%
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SaggiMC
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posted January 28, 2012 02:51 PM
Have you reduced the orb ratio down to 40% if not please do so and repost.The max orb between planet is 3'Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html I notice moon is conj Node this is excellent. Node conj Juno is also excellent if within 3' orb
Moon conj Venus is great ------------------
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Jounia
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posted January 28, 2012 03:05 PM
see above - now added
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amelia28
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posted January 28, 2012 03:51 PM
Based on synastry reduced by 40%:His venus falls on your DC (Nice)
His moon conjuncts your venus (Nice)
His Juno conjuncts your NN (Nice)
His NN conjuncts your moon (Nice)
His Chiron conjuncts your jupiter (Nice) There is also:
your pluto inconjunct his urunus (generational) His pluto sextiles your neptune (generational) His neptune squares your mercury (he lies sometimes, communication not clear sometimes, you two talk about love and romance but avoid practical topics and he tells you what you want to hear is a few ways this can manifest itself) His neptune squares your Eros (I would think this means that the sex you two have is idealistic and spiritual in his eyes and that he likes fantasizing about it). IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted January 28, 2012 03:53 PM
Mercury square Neptune:
What does it mean to your relationship when your natal Mercury is square your partner’s Neptune? You will find yourself thinking more creatively, your romantic relationship inspires an enriching boot in colorful and imaginative perceptions. You will have to be careful and explicitly clear when communicating with your partner or confusion and mistrust will arise between you. If your romantic partner’s Mercury is square your Neptune, you can easily misunderstand the information he/she is attempting to communicate and come to the wrong assumptions.
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amelia28
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posted January 28, 2012 04:10 PM
Based on the chart not reduced by 40%:It looks like her mars opposes his SUN and his MARS (I would think power struggles,
ego games, fights but also strong physical attraction and good sex). It also looks like her Saturn opposes his mercury (this is bad for communication
making it hard for her to listen to each other and this combined with neptune square mercury which makes communication foggy just adds to the communication difficulty which can then lead to fights as presented by her mars opposite his sun and mars) His AC trines her neptune (she romanticizes him but I would think this is a nice aspect to give you that I am in love feeling) His pluto conjuncts her IC and inconjunct her eros and mercury. Her Saturn inconjuncts his mars.
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amelia28
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posted January 28, 2012 04:14 PM
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/013601.html Does he control the foundation of their security? IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted January 28, 2012 04:17 PM
I think the synastry has its challenges and strengths. It would be nice if you post the composite bc that I feel has to do with how the relationship will feel longterm and hence is a good indicator as to whether the relationship will last longterm or not. Since this couple has lasted 13 years I am sure composite will reflect this so curious to see it.IP: Logged |
Jounia
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posted January 28, 2012 04:27 PM
Thanks Amelia! I will post the composite. The guy says he feels like he cannot be himself around her - like he has to be just a normal, average caring guy. He feels that he's 'hiding' and cannot show her the real 'him'.
Does anything in particular show that? IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted January 28, 2012 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by Jounia:
Thanks Amelia! I will post the composite. The guy says he feels like he cannot be himself around her - like he has to be just a normal, average caring guy. I feels that he's 'hiding' and cannot show her the real 'him'.
Does anything in particular show that?
I edited some stuff so re read everything pls. As for your question about him not been able to be himself well....hopefully somebody else will address this question too in case there is more to it but what I am seeing is that his natal saturn conjuncts his AC and this is trined by her neptune so she puts him up in pedestal and he probably feels a lot of pressure to live up to this image she has of him which he deep down feels he is not anywhere near this idolized image she has of him as people with natal saturn conjunct AC tend to feel insecure about their looks and themselves in general a lot! IP: Logged |
Jounia
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posted January 28, 2012 04:48 PM
Thanks! I've posted the comp now. - see first post. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted January 28, 2012 05:04 PM
They have the love stellium in the 7th cusp in composite, the cusp of longterm relationships that is why they have lasted so long. They also have moon and neptune in the 5th which creates strong romantic feelings and it means they enjoy eachother's company and feel good emotionally together.It is an idealistic relationship but all the neptune aspects in composite are soft so it should add to the relationship not subtract. Composite uranus conjunct NN in the 4th square sun I would say they move around a lot..change residences a lot. Pluto square moon: one of them is possessive of the other or both are possessive of eachother but this indicates strong emotions. Saturn in the 12th squares jupiter in the 10th and uranus in the 4th: I think this explains were the problem is. Saturn is keeping things hidden in the subconscious which results in both of them not been able to express their personal uniqueness at home or feel optimistic about their careers. This is probably why he says he cant be himself....I would say this is specially the case when he is at home...both of their uniqueness are been restricted by saturn in the home front. But this could be fixed with therapy I feel by both making an effort to get in touch with their subconscious and letting themselves express their more quirky sides at home. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted January 28, 2012 05:07 PM
the composite is reduced by 85% and synastry by %40 I think is what SaggiMC says....but that is up for debate not all astrologers feel that synastry should only go by 3 orb aspects. I personally feel that up 6 orbs or even 8 orbs could be felt. Edit to add but with asteroids orbs should always be very tight and involve personal planets I feel. IP: Logged |
Jounia
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posted January 28, 2012 05:10 PM
Thank you so much. very interesting!Would you be so kind as to have a look and tell me what you feel about this synastry below in comaparison to the first one? Is it better or worse? Your thoughts would be much appreciated!! with 40% orb reduction
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amelia28
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posted January 28, 2012 05:15 PM
I would rather compare the composites right now and perhaps later on today will compare the synastry.IP: Logged |
Jounia
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posted January 28, 2012 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by amelia28:
I would rather compare the composites right now and perhaps later on today will compare the synastry.
ok.......composite - not so good lol  1st one will probably beat it. anyways, here it is  Thanks!
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amelia28
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posted January 28, 2012 05:37 PM
The people in last composite have the love stellium and Juno is packed with nice aspects.Mars conjunct Uranus in the 7th with venus in the 12th, and Saturn in the 5th makes me think that a longterm relationship started unexpectedly bc of sexual attraction that has lead to DEEP feelings but is secret (venus in the 12th, karmic and its expression restricted (saturn in the 5th). IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted January 28, 2012 05:40 PM
Moon/juno/neptune in the 8th means that sex between them leads to bonding for this two love birds and is emotional and spiritual.Empty 9th and 10th house with venus in the 12th probably means that relationship will never go public. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted January 28, 2012 05:46 PM
Pluto opposition venus must be intense emotionally.....I would say that sex is more fulfilling with second composite and emotions MORE intense...sex together touches your soul and transforms both of you. but with first, the emotions are strong too with a more innocent touch and they are probably a better team. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted January 28, 2012 05:48 PM
Sounds about right??IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted January 28, 2012 06:19 PM
Love Feelings are evident in both composites. The same for the synastry except I feel the first synastry is better than second. Is hard to decide which composite is better but if we are talking marriage/companionship/having children the first is better and if we are talking intense soulmate love affair the second is better for that.IP: Logged |
MC2012
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posted January 28, 2012 06:31 PM
Hi Amelia, sorry to interupt. I wanted to as what if the 1st, 5th & 8th houses are empty? Just curious. Thanks IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted January 28, 2012 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by MC2012:
Hi Amelia, sorry to interupt. I wanted to as what if the 1st, 5th & 8th houses are empty? Just curious. Thanks
A couple can have 1st, 5th, and 8th house empty and it can still be a very strong relationship...for example a nice stellium in the 4th with juno and vertex in the 7th combined with sun conjunct moon and pluto conjunct sun and moon and mars will be a strong relationship. My bestfriend from childhood is married to a woman he has this aspects in composite with and they are super in love and have been together for like 6 years and most of the relationship has involved them to continue relationship long distance bc of work and been from different countries. Saturn is also part of stellium they have in libra cusp just like I have a stellium involving libra cusp including saturn with husband but mine is in the 7th and 8th and his and hers are in the 3rd cusp. They have an empty 8th but have sun conjunct pluto and moon so feelings run deep. They have empty first too and so do I with husband...they have neptune in the 5th and I have an empty fifth with husband. Except we have vesta in the 5th and juno and NN in the 4th all conjunct each other.. What is important is that there is a stellium in the composite and the stellium can involve oppositions. For example my parents have sun opposition moon, moon opposition mercury and sun conjunct mercury so they have sun/moon/mercury stellium, juno in the 7th, venus opposition PLUTO, Eros conjunct Venus, venus trine neptune and venus sextile mars and they have been married for around 35 years. As for saturn all they have is saturn trine sun and mercury in composite. So there are different ways a strong composite can manifest itself but strong composites usually have stelliums even if oppositions are involved in the stellium and at least one meaningful point in the 7th cusp (vertex, juno, personal planets, luminaries) either stuff in the 8th house or some nice strong pluto aspects but the houses the stellium fall on can vary. Usually the stellium involves the sun I have noticed but the planets other than the sun involved in the stellium vary. My best friend from childhood and his wife have a sun/moon/mars/pluto/saturn stellium in their chart in cusp libra in their 3rd house and juno/vertex conjunct in the 7th. Their love runs deep and strong. I have a stellium in the libra cusp involving 7th and 8th house with husband involving sun/mars/pluto/jupiter/saturn/mercury/vertex/boda/karma... My parents have a sun/moon/mercury stellium with some real nice venus aspects including venus opposition pluto (which both have in their natal as well) and venus conjunct eros and venus trine neptune plus juno in the 7th... so strong charts manifests in a variety of ways I feel. IP: Logged |
Jounia
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posted January 29, 2012 08:35 AM
Amelia, thank you. That sounds spot on regarding the second composite.
Can you comment on the synastries? what in your opinion makes the 1st one better?Thank you IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted January 30, 2012 09:53 AM
Hi. Sun opposes saturn and squares uranus in the first composite. That is the simplereason qhy he feels he cannot be himself around her. sun square Uranus requires both partners to give each other a lot of freedom to be themselves...whoch is often not the case with sun square saturn, where self expression (the sun) is repressed (saturn) by each other when they get in a relationship. It is true that neptune makes one idealize the other, but even though that was a pretty ingenuius observation by amelia , i think neptune makes someone idealize their partner, but their partner simply feels like the other person believes in them and has more faith in them then most people do, but what they do fear is that they are certainly quite aware that their partner's beliefs about them are somewhat unrealistic and they fear one day they will find out that they really arent this beautiful angel from heaven and then they will become disillusioned. But neptune does not make one feel like they cannot be themselves, it simply inspires people to try to live up to this ideal, which usually only feeds their partner's unrealistic vision of them. Feeling like you cannot be yourself is saturn's oppressive influence.I have had composite sun in negative aspect to saturn and felt quite criticized by that person and opressed by their presence, and did indeed feel like i couldnt totally be myself. The first composite has a pretty loose love stellium. Venus, the strongest component of the love stellium is pretty far away. I've found even loose love stelliums still have an effect but the second composite has a much much tighter love stellium and a way better composite chart overall. The second composite is really fantastic. The first composite, i would say is actually bad bd it has sun sq uranus and sq saturn. Sun trine pluto and moon-pluto give strong feelings, but it's nothing compared to the strong feelings the second composite would give.
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