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Dazzle
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posted January 29, 2012 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi SaggiMc!!

I decided to start a new thread and I do not mean to add extra work for you. You had commented on my other thread and I wanted to continue to talk about what you had told me and make sure you were able to find me.

I have answers and some questions.

Here's the link: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/002429-2.html

I am going to copy/paste a section that you wrote. I can't thank you enough for all the information you gave and I have been researching the links and studying.

I will post my chart in the next post and then comment on your interpretation.

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posted January 29, 2012 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry....I forgot how to post my chart.

I'll figure it out again but it is on the first page of the link I sent above.

I did make a "equal chart" as you suggested.

Here is one part of what you wrote about my chart:

quote:Originally posted by Dazzle:
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maybe you want a different perspective?

I use Equal House system (where each cusp is same as Ascendant) and am a modern astrologer. Lots of newcomers come into Astrology/forums and get a free chart from astro and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few others if you wish to experiment…..

Within the mainstream are placidus/equal houses (the default on astro is placidus) only difference being some planets may move from one house to another thereby altering it's interpretation and it's 'only' with research will you find which /planets 'fit you' in which houses. So my advice, do two charts, research any planets that move houses and see which you identity with - simple

having your chart ruler in detriment, stuck in 12th is not great and this suggests to me you need time alone to commune. In Equal house sun would be 11th house of friendships, group activiites and hopes and wishes.

Sun is apex for common T Square, sun square mars shows someone wilfil and desire to control others..


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My Pisces Sun in the 12th House seems to fit me. From what I understand (by working with Ami Anne and also from reading) this is not the best placement.

I do need my down time to re-charge, to be alone with my thoughts, and whether this is associated...I deal with depression, panic disorder, etc. I'm extremely sensitive. I have strong intuition. I do love people but after awhile I will feel drained. I can feel people's energy...good and also the negative which I have learned to separate myself from.

I can't quite grasp the T Square meaning yet...so still reading on that but as far as the Sun Square Mars...(as you wrote above)

I don't think I try to control others. (of course...you may have to ask my daughter..hahahahaha....) BUT...I will say that I am at a point in my life where NO ONE better tell me what to do. So...maybe

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posted January 29, 2012 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SaggiMC:
Sun quincunx neptune
“shows that you consider your responsibilities the most pressing in the world. There is an element of self sacrifice. You really believe people who suggest that only you can solve their problems. Because of this martyr quality, you seek the most demanding jobs or human situations in order to test your commitment to service. Unsure of yourself you continually try to find ways to prove your competence, but deplete your own energies.
Professional success will be difficult to achieve because of your preoccupation with endless trivia. Exaggerating the importance of superficial matters, you tend to get bogged down by them.”

From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Sun Quincunx Neptune
“Your energy tends to be directed unrealistically. Your own sense of self changes as you learn from your own misappraisals of situations that are important to you. If you feel drained or frustrated it is always helpful to look at your overall direction in life and determine if you have taken on more through your high ideals than your physical vitality can sustain. It is always worthwhile to see how your ideas are received by others, to see if you can involve them in your vision. When you can't, avoid trying to do everything yourself. Slow down” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

Sometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings.

Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesis

What tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...
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I do over-think, make plans, research, and get over-whelmed before I even carry out my plans or ideas. I am always searching for answers and do drain myself. But, honestly, my mind wanders within a split-second and I can go so deep in thought.... I am constantly looking for the meaning of life and right when I think I have it figured out... something happens...and I am back at square one.

I need to go with the flow and stop trying to prove myself to anyone but me...

Does this sound like I understood what you wrote?
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(I do not understand the T Square, Grand Square, or Yods (Finger of God) but will continue my studies)

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posted January 29, 2012 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars quincunx Uranus, may suffer from sudden and intermittent painful things.
“you function with great drive (mars) and originality (urans), but you always seem to be under some pressure. Perhaps you are trying to prove something to yourself and others.. Learn to distinguish responsibility from abuse. It may be that your deep concern for your future drives you to do everything immediately. There is more time than you know, so first establish your priorities, and then you CAN accomplish all you want. Make sure that others do not make demands of you that are physically impossible or perhaps unnecessary. Do not be a patsy for other people's incompetence”
From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Mars Quincunx Uranus
You want something different than the rest of society and this in itself is neutral. Your frustrations can arise because your manner of expression of your unique desires cuts against the grain of what other people expect from you and your methods don't achieve your goals. Slow down - your intensity and drive can leave you drained without getting you closer to your goals. Only when you are able to hold to a course of action for a long time are you able to get results. Your attempt at "quick wins" always requires you to start over. http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/q...retations.html

All I can say with this interpretation is:

EXACT!! I read this and just kept shaking my head and smirking.... that's me!

I'm going to stop for now. I will be back for the rest of your post.

I really do hope I am not bothering you. Any insight is very much appreciated.

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posted January 30, 2012 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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SaggiMC
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posted January 30, 2012 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
I need to go with the flow and stop trying to prove myself to anyone but me...

Does this sound like I understood what you wrote?
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(I do not understand the T Square, Grand Square, or Yods (Finger of God) but will continue my studies)


Yes, you seem to have grasped things quite well. you don't have a Yod, but just a quincunx..

"What tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square..".

So, for example when T Jupiter gets to 17-19' taurus it will form a temp Yod with natal mars and uranus..

If you want to learn how to use an ephemeris try here.. http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42496

So, if you use this ephemeris http://www.khaldea.com/ephemcenter.shtml

go back and see what T saturn was doing around 25' Virgo as it then converted your T Square into a Grand square and most likely caused lots of tensions and problems for you...

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posted January 30, 2012 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.khaldea.com/kldaephem/2000/may2012gmt.shtml

Now look to top row and T Uranus beginning of May is 6'32" and will be conj your venus. This may well bring some excitement in socialising and romance, but startt suddenly, should be exciting but not very stable...

Basic astrology forum, Learn Transits http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Basic+Astrology&number=12&DaysPrune=

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Dazzle
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posted January 30, 2012 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your reply! I will continue looking up links and studying. It takes me a little while to research and I am trying to absorb all I can. I also have to get deep in thought to truly understand what is being said.

I'll bump the thread when I'm ready. Thank you again SaggiMC

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posted February 23, 2012 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SaggiMC

It's been a while since I posted but am still very much enjoying astrology. I've been reading a lot book-wise. I have also read a lot of what you have posted on other threads and I have looked up a ton of links.

Here is my question to you.... (if you are not busy, of course...)

It seems the interpretation of my chart is mostly negative. I haven't heard much of what is good in my chart. Just the problem of the 12th house, the unaspected Venus, the Aries Venus. While I can relate to what is being discussed I was wondering if you can look at my chart again and tell me anything positive?

For example: Do I have mostly water, or am I a mixture and have a good balance in my chart, or whatever you can look at and tell me?! Any strong points?

I hope you understand what I'm asking.


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posted February 24, 2012 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*bump*

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posted February 24, 2012 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dazzle:
*bump*

Hi there,

if you go to astro.com
Free reading thread http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/002828.html

go to free horoscopes tab, then go to personal portrait, it will bring up your chart in the default house system of placidus (my only grouch) put the cursor on a planet and it brings up a pop up box with explanations...

Look at all those triangle aspects 120'

moon trine mars = good business eneterprise, robust health and energy.

"Mercury sextile or trine Saturn
Your mind is well-disciplined when it needs to be, and you possess strong powers of organization and orderliness. You are good at detail work. You are a person who says what you mean and mean what you say, and you can be baffled by, or impatient with, those who don't. You are very trustworthy and reliable, showing up on time for appointments due to a basic respect for others and for schedules and orderliness. You make a loyal friend. You are capable of exceptionally clear and realistic thinking. Making plans is something that comes naturally to you--you consider consequences and possible scenarios before arriving at a decision or embarking on something entirely new. You are somewhat of a doubting Thomas, and you don't naturally jump up and down with excitement about new ideas or plans. Your conversations may at times be spare but to the point.

The trine aspect is the more dynamic of the two harmonious aspects. Those with the sextile can call upon these traits when needed, and those with the trine between the Mercury and Saturn have incorporated the traits of the aspect into their personalities, expressing them naturally and consistently." http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/mercurysaturnaspects.html

sun trine uranus = personal magnetism and great creativity 4

"Mars in Conjunction, Trine, Sextile to Pluto

You are courageous and if challenged, you make a ruthless opponent. You cannot be bullied or bribed either. You have a commanding presence and it's nearly impossible for anyone to try to pull the wool over your eyes, especially in competitive situations. Your instincts are on the mark and it's hard to distract you from a course of action once you've made up your mind" http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectsmars.htm#namaasppl

quote:

For example: Do I have mostly water, or am I a mixture and have a good balance in my chart, or whatever you can look at and tell me?! Any strong points?

If you look at your chart wheel on astro, just above the aspect grid is another grid, 3 wide 3x high, this is the elements and quadruplicities ie: cardinal, fixed, mutable.

So an even mix until we get to the 'earth element' so then we would look for planets in earth houses that may help compensate, and only one in 2nd house naturally ruled by taurus. So how bad are you at gardening or changing a plug, or putting up shelves??

Lack of elements http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18077 http://www.astrology-numerology.com/elements.html http://www.astrology.aryabhatt.com/Astrology_Elements.asp http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm http://www.astrologyclub.org/article.../inferior2.htm http://www.nanceestar.com/elements.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=319747&posted=1#post319747

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posted February 24, 2012 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi SaggiMC

I want to thank you for all your hard work! I'm thrilled with what you have given me to read about and learn.

moon trine mars = good business eneterprise, robust health and energy.

"Mercury sextile or trine Saturn
Your mind is well-disciplined when it needs to be, and you possess strong powers of organization and orderliness. You are good at detail work. You are a person who says what you mean and mean what you say, and you can be baffled by, or impatient with, those who don't. You are very trustworthy and reliable, showing up on time for appointments due to a basic respect for others and for schedules and orderliness. You make a loyal friend. You are capable of exceptionally clear and realistic thinking. Making plans is something that comes naturally to you--you consider consequences and possible scenarios before arriving at a decision or embarking on something entirely new. You are somewhat of a doubting Thomas, and you don't naturally jump up and down with excitement about new ideas or plans. Your conversations may at times be spare but to the point.

I LOVE organizing!! I had to burst out laughing because I have been called a "neat freak" but I just like things convenient and in order.

I feel I am a good friend. I always put things I am told into my "vault" and I don't gossip. If asked for an opinion by a friend I will tell the truth. I do say what I mean...but...only after much reflection.

I can be skeptical until I convince myself otherwise. I trust my reasoning powers and intuition.

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sun trine uranus = personal magnetism and great creativity 4

"Mars in Conjunction, Trine, Sextile to Pluto

You are courageous and if challenged, you make a ruthless opponent. You cannot be bullied or bribed either. You have a commanding presence and it's nearly impossible for anyone to try to pull the wool over your eyes, especially in competitive situations. Your instincts are on the mark and it's hard to distract you from a course of action once you've made up your mind" http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectsmars.htm#namaasppl[/b]


hahahahahahahaha...TRY to change my mind!!! Since I reflect on everything....I will stand my ground if I think it is correct. I am open to listen but...don't try to make me believe something I don't.
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So an even mix until we get to the 'earth element' so then we would look for planets in earth houses that may help compensate, and only one in 2nd house naturally ruled by taurus. So how bad are you at gardening or changing a plug, or putting up shelves??

I'm such a girlie-girl...OMGawd!! Gardening..eeeooowwww!! Bugs!! I think you get the idea. hahahahaha.... I have, when absolutely needed, got a book out on some home repairs and read what needed to be done and did it. (changed a faucet and toilet innards!! *gross*)
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I feel better reading some positive things so thank you from my heart. Anything you would like to add would be appreciated. I really don't know how you do it all. It took me quite awhile to post this.

Back to my studies... thank you SaggiMC!!

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posted February 24, 2012 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
actually having no earth is THE sign of a money maker , they often cling to unproductive ¬relationships rather than face the possibility of standing alone.

financial and emotional security will be very importatn. I have two brothers with no earth, and they are both 'well off' as we say..

Persons with little or no earth tend to inflate issues out of all proportion to their actual significance, and at the same time neglect the issues that really do have immediate importance.

do you find sometimes you lack energy and drive to follow through with your plans?

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posted February 24, 2012 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SaggiMC:
actually having no earth is THE sign of a money maker , they often cling to unproductive ¬relationships rather than face the possibility of standing alone.

financial and emotional security will be very importatn. I have two brothers with no earth, and they are both 'well off' as we say..

Persons with little or no earth tend to inflate issues out of all proportion to their actual significance, and at the same time neglect the issues that really do have immediate importance.

do you find sometimes you lack energy and drive to follow through with your plans?



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Oooohhhh geeeezzzz!! This is me perfectly. Not the money-wise (been struggling with this) but I would surmise it is because I lack the energy and drive as you stated. The things I have tried always make money but I don't seem to follow through with my plans. I put things off instead of pursuing and prove to myself it is valid. I need a kick in the butt!

"unproductive relationships"

Yes *sigh* I am afraid to stand on my own yet I want to be independent.

Will be pondering on this throughout the night............ Thanks again SaggiMC

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posted February 25, 2012 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am really enjoying your interpretations. Thank you!

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posted February 25, 2012 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very impressive.

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posted February 26, 2012 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dazzle:
I am really enjoying your interpretations. Thank you!


Thanks, I just hope it's been enough of a dangling carrot for you to go forward further into studying astrology

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posted February 26, 2012 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Randall....thanks for popping in!

SaggiMC.... just bumping my thread.

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posted February 26, 2012 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hahahahaha...yes! I took the carrot bait...lol

Astrology is sooooo interesting. I was use to reading about the Sun Signs only. It helped me tremendously knowing and figuring out people I met and also myself. Now....I am amazed how much is involved in an actual chart.

No wonder we are all so different and complex.

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posted March 02, 2012 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SaggiMC:
Thanks, I just hope it's been enough of a dangling carrot for you to go forward further into studying astrology

hahahahaha...yes! I took the carrot bait...lol

Astrology is sooooo interesting. I was use to reading about the Sun Signs only. It helped me tremendously knowing and figuring out people I met and also myself. Now....I am amazed how much is involved in an actual chart.

No wonder we are all so different and complex.

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posted March 03, 2012 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here is a culmination of my threads for *learning astrology*

In Astrology 2.0 forum, beginners learning astrology http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212463.html

in Astrology 2.0 forum, What’s next for learning (intermediate) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212464.html

In Astrology 2.0 what’s next for learning (advanced) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212465.html

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posted March 03, 2012 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dazzle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you soooo much SaggiMC. I will definitely research all the links you provided.

I see I have my work cut out for me but am enjoying every minute.

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