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Lioness
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posted January 31, 2012 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im not really asking for a reading...

Everyone here knows most of the details between me and fishy... Its ups and downs.. I want you, I cant be around you... I cant be w/o you...

All the confusion, The obsession... The what the heck I do... This has been on going for 2 years now..
So WHO the heck is this guy to me and why does he have so much power and control..

I know he's some sort of soulmate.. But I dont know what kind of soulmate..
Heavy karma??
Lessons??

What is this really??? Can that even be answered?????????
No matter what I do.. I cant get this out of my system... Its driving me nuts...

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posted January 31, 2012 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well you have stellium involving jupiter/moon/pluto....my take is moon conjunct pluto is intense but you add jupiter to the mix and what it does is expand even further the moon pluto conjunction.

You also have a stellium involving opposites between moon/venus/pluto with him!

and you are lucky enough to have found him while you two are both single. Take it really really slowly as slowly as you want but don't shut it out .

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posted January 31, 2012 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait
Jupiter is expanding Moon/Pluto and Venus/Pluto????

OMG... Thats WHY we cant stop... Thats why pluto is so overpowering...

This is just to much pluto...

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amelia28
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posted January 31, 2012 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Wait
Jupiter is expanding Moon/Pluto and Venus/Pluto????

OMG... Thats WHY we cant stop... Thats why pluto is so overpowering...

This is just to much pluto...


yes now that you mention it jupiter is also part of the venus/moon/pluto stellium.....so in actuality you have one stellium with him involving jupiter/venus/moon/pluto so damn, yes!

I get why you feel that what you feel is so powerful. I have venus conjunt pluto with someone...and it feels strong.....I can imagine adding moon and pluto (creating a stellium) would increase this ten fold.

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posted February 01, 2012 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have venus/pluto with everyone around my age well the square not the conjunction...

All I can say is it doesnt even compare.. I think it may be to much... Its very overpowering.
I really really dont know how to do this..

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posted February 01, 2012 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
I have venus/pluto with everyone around my age well the square not the conjunction...

All I can say is it doesnt even compare.. I think it may be to much... Its very overpowering.
I really really dont know how to do this..


I am referring to venus pluto conjunct in composite....its very powerful..I have it with my friend and even though we are far I feel the intensity and can't ignore it. Pluto in composite creates unbreakable bonds.

You have venus opposite pluto in composite but in a stellium involving jupiter and moon so these feelings are intensified further.

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posted February 01, 2012 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
can you poss repost the syn bi wheel and reduce the orb ratio down to 40% to bring it in line with more mainstream views..

plus both natals..

Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html

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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

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posted February 01, 2012 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry reduced to 40%

My Natal

His Natal

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posted February 02, 2012 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioness, this is driving me crazy, not understanding why you guys don't just get together and STAY together!!!

I'm thinking maybe I'm not reading your threads thoroughly or something, and it's probably the case b/c I have bits and pieces of time in any given day to be on LL, so I kind of skim things. Maybe you've said it already and I've just missed it. If so, I'm sorry. But I can't take the suspense..t let's get back to the fact that you have a delicious Pisces with a Scorpio moon to tango with (OMG, my dream) and you're just ... bothered somehow.

Do you think a past life reading might help? I had an angel reading last year by a lady and she got into past lives (didn't expect her to), describing my relationship with my son and why it took on the flavor that it did.... I found it to be enormously helpful.

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posted February 02, 2012 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here maybe this will explain it better..

read the top one on page 2
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000600-2.html

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posted February 02, 2012 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
juno/uranus square venus, classic divorce aspect..

Juno conj Asc
neptune square sun, someone's overidealising, fantasising...

sun quincunx pluto, now I doubt whether you will find an interpretation regarding this one, but you should be able to convert or imagine the natal aspect .....

sun quincunx pluto
“can suffer from constant unrest and tension without knowing why. Often gives enormous ambition and a desire to remain viable at all costs. Driven by uncertainty, you may seem incapable of sparing yourself. Because of the insecurity you could be fiercely defensive of others but with typical plutonian lust for power, can (on occasion) enjoy manipulating them to. You will have a desire to grow through confrontations....”
From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Sun Quincunx Pluto
You are forced to focus, time and again, on details that you would prefer to ignore. When life slows down or becomes uncomfortable, simplify and be patient. You are changing and growing in ways that you can scarcely perceive. Stay involved in your everyday routines and only force a change on yourself when you feel stuck in some repetitive pattern. http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

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crabbypatty
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posted February 02, 2012 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, now I get it, Lioness.

Wow, tough situation. Yes, I've been in a situation that was probably equally wrenching and frustrating, but the guy wasn't a dog. I can still relate, though.

This is one of those things that I would pray to g-d and the angels about , for release from the angst. I prayed, and it worked.

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posted February 02, 2012 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My situation went on from March 2007 until just about a month ago. That's a very long time to be obsessed with someone, isn't it ?

Then, I believe in answer to my prayers, the Universe sent me a man who, for a month, just about, had me all wrapped up in him, enough so he made me forget The Guy. It ended very abruptly and very badly, but guess what? I'm not obsessed with The Guy anymore.

I myself couldn't believe it. I was so used to thinking about The Guy 56 times a day. Now, if he comes up in my thoughts, it's like, eh.

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Lioness
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posted February 02, 2012 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah.. Im working on it... Im being stron and every time he asks to see me I say no..

I tell him why.. He know exactly why..
We talk a lot about how much we desire each other, but Im not bending for him..

Im not going to let him do me like that.. You know...
Even though I WANT so bad to try and see what happens.. I just feel that its going to end badly.. I really dont want to go through that.. I know myself, and I know I would loose all control..

You know I attract these men like "moths" I can spot them a mile away (uranus,pluto in h7)
I just laugh at them, and I have no problem walking away..

But with this ONE guy.. Its just tortures my soul... I have to have him in my life.. But I cant have him...
I feel so very conflicted and lost..
No matter what I do to push him away.. Nothing works.. NOTHING..
I have ended the friendship at least 6x.
Ive told him DONT talk to ME!!
I went off on him, about something he did.
I have deleted his number 3x
I ignored and avoided him
If he walked towards me, I would turn and walk another direction..
I told him, I letting you go... OO he got ****** when I said that!
We had a heartfelt good bye.. Said no more.

But no matter what we keep coming back to the same old thing..

I have never felt so lost in my life...
I just wish I knew what to do here..

Where is my easy button!!!!

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posted February 02, 2012 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SaggiMC:
juno/uranus square venus, classic divorce aspect..

Juno conj Asc
neptune square sun, someone's overidealising, fantasising...

sun quincunx pluto, now I doubt whether you will find an interpretation regarding this one, but you should be able to convert or imagine the natal aspect .....

sun quincunx pluto
“can suffer from constant unrest and tension without knowing why. Often gives enormous ambition and a desire to remain viable at all costs. Driven by uncertainty, you may seem incapable of sparing yourself. Because of the insecurity you could be fiercely defensive of others but with typical plutonian lust for power, can (on occasion) enjoy manipulating them to. You will have a desire to grow through confrontations....”
From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Sun Quincunx Pluto
You are forced to focus, time and again, on details that you would prefer to ignore. When life slows down or becomes uncomfortable, simplify and be patient. You are changing and growing in ways that you can scarcely perceive. Stay involved in your everyday routines and only force a change on yourself when you feel stuck in some repetitive pattern. http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html


Thanks Sag..
I think we both idolize each other.. But at the same time, we have our own little fantasy world that just me and him exists in.

I just cant understand why this 1 person in the whole entire world has this much of an impact on me...

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posted February 02, 2012 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Lioness: I just read what you are going through.....OMG That is EXACTLY what I feel.
Why the heck is this happening. And what really is the point to all this. Ugh...

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posted February 02, 2012 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have moon/Pluto or venus/Pluto with ur guy?

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posted February 03, 2012 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioness- I havent read the other posts, but my first thought is he involved in some sort of Baby momma drama? I sort of wonder why this relationship would have some sort of hidden element to it. What is the reason for the hidden parts? I wont assume he's married because I dont get that sense...it's something else but maybe it is?

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posted February 03, 2012 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its hidden because we work together..

I am a manager and well he's an employee.

Im not his direct manager.. But Im still a manager in the building. Im also the ONLY female manager.

Its a male dominate field.. There is only one other female in the building and she is a much older lady ...

If the guys at work found out.. It would be be BIG news... Also I KNEW it!! I FF>> KNEW IT..
Everyone wants confirmation, but neither myself or pisces are spilling it...
There's been a few rumors but no proof...

Everyone knows ...but no one KNOWS...
Everyone wants to know, are they.. arent they..
Whats going on with them...

Even one of the guys calls an ex mgr (my friend) and BEGS come on tell me.. Whats going on with them...
I just know something is.. But I cant get any info..
My friend says I dont work there anymore.. I have no clue whats going on there!!! LOL

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posted February 03, 2012 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has IQ weighed in on this question? If not, let's summon him!!

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posted February 03, 2012 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lioness:
Here maybe this will explain it better..

read the top one on page 2
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000600-2.html


Just read your story:

You guys are close friends so that is a good foundation. No matter if it works out romantically or not since you were friends first you will be able to go back to just been friends if needed. You have earned his respect...he doesn't see you as just another girl anymore.

The only way you will be able to let go is by giving this a shot and getting it out of your system. You are stronger than you think and will be able to let go and move on if it doesn't work out. You cant hide from this you have to give it a shot and confront it. You two work together...you really can't avoid and hide from this connection forever.

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“Perfect love casts out fear. Where there is love there are no demands, no expectations, no dependency. I do not demand that you make me happy; my happiness does not lie in you. If you were to leave me, I will not feel sorry for myself; I enjoy your company immensely, but I do not cling.” -Anthony de Mello

“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”

Mahatma Gandhi quotes (Indian Philosopher, internationally esteemed for his doctrine of nonviolent protest, 1869-1948)

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posted February 03, 2012 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look when I met my ex I felt this intense need to merge with him, three months later I did. The sex was awesome...till this day he cant ever say no to me. He has never been able to say no to me. Every time we see each other, and I mean literally every single time we see each other we always have sex. We can't not have sex in each others presence. We felt drawn to each other like magnets right from the beginning. We saw each other and it was kiss at first sight for several hours, then we talked for a minute and exchanged numbers. 9 years later he still loves me and wants to marry me and get back with me.

Just like you feel you can't say no to Fishy whether he lets you know or not he feels that intensity and need to merge with you as well. You have a lot of power over each other.

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posted February 03, 2012 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the universe keeps trying to challenge you with something...you tell the universe right back "bring it ONNNNN!!"

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posted February 03, 2012 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
If the universe keeps trying to challenge you with something...you tell the universe right back "bring it ONNNNN!!"


AWESOME statement! I xoxo this! Lol

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posted February 03, 2012 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@amelia

Yeah Im not avoiding the connection.. I do know I have no choice, but to see where it goes..
We talk just about everyday for hours and hours. So we are connecting that way..
I have told him, Im not going to have sex with him...
He said ok he's disappointed, but he wouldnt want me to do anything Im not comfortable with.. Doesnt mean he has stopped trying though...
IDK.. I think he's semi happy with the fantsy of me, verses the real me..
We talk about our desires for each other all the time..
I do tell him, that we have to just keep it as a friendship, because no matter what I dont want to loose the friendship..
He says ok ok.. your right your right...
Then he just backs off from me..
Which makes me think even more, he just wants sex..

IDK.. Im just taking one day at a time here.. I guess what ever happens will happen when its meant to happen... LOL

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