posted February 03, 2012 12:21 AM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
It's ya sun conjunct venus =) and venus conjunc mercury would suggest that too.

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posted February 03, 2012 12:27 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Doesn't everyone have that? It's amazing how strong it is, I don't feel like an Aries at all with the exception of how passionate I can get.

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posted February 03, 2012 01:28 AM            

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Originally posted by alaz7200:
As another poster said, it's your Sun conjunct Venus. And no, not everyone has this aspect. I wouldn't go so far as to say that it's "rare", but one has a 1/5 chance that the Venus sign is the same as the Sun sign, and granted it is, then a 1/4 that Sun would be conjunct Venus.

Moon in 12th is indeed empathetic, not to mention self-sacrificing, at times too much so. Beware not to give so much of yourself that you cause your own undoing. The trine to Neptune would emphasize these attributes considerably, but not necessarily in a detrimental way. It would most likely make you more content with your tendencies. The trine to Saturn ought to be much appreciated, for it mitigates the overwhelming Neptunian influence, with the hopes that you can manifest that energy in a constructive, concrete way.

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Well... it's kind of a pain in my behind. I feel like I have no SELF, you know? I know I have certain attributes but when someone asks me to define myself I'm at a loss because I seem to define myself through other people the most. I don't know if that's a Libran trait, a Moon 12H trait, or something psychological that's irrelevant to astrology.

posted February 03, 2012 01:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I agree with Sun conj Venus - and also - the conjunction is in an air house (the 11th). Your Sun's dispositor is Mars in Gemini (another air sign), plus your AC is Gemini. So you might relate to many of the air-sign traits!

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posted February 03, 2012 05:56 PM            

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No, they don't especially at that small of an orb.

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hi, I've seen your chart around AW.

Perhaps you could explain what traits or why you think you are more libran??

Gemini Asc (along with pisces) is probably one of the most difficult in childhood. I call gemini risers the 'why children' wearing parents down asking questions, why why why. How does this work, why does that do this? sometimes I think parents 'switch off' from constant questions and then the child feels alientated, misunderstood, bit like a square peg in round hole. does this resonate?

In Equal house your stellium in cappi would be in the house of Libra/Angular and would take on some libra qualities....

Also pluto would be 5th house suggesting *plutonic childhood*

Pluto in 5th House - succeedent
Plutonic childhood. At least one of your children will be Scorpionic in nature. Want control over love affairs and children. Should produce talented children. You tend to be dominated by romantic partner or children.Another common feature is creative work actors, painters, musicians. Or just enjoying hobbies

Pluto in 6th House - cadent
Workaholic. may be a great stickler for routine and discipline, maybe hard on themselves
Health hate to admit to illnesses.
Can make a career over being ill hypochondria.
Obsessed over health. If Pluto is afflicted may suggest bowel problems (Pluto characteristic constipating action in the literal sense)
If lack of fulfillment through work, could overeat or comfort eat

posted February 03, 2012 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I agree with Sun conj Venus - and also - the conjunction is in an air house (the 11th). Your Sun's dispositor is Mars in Gemini (another air sign), plus your AC is Gemini. So you might relate to many of the air-sign traits!

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so how would all these air/gemini traits make her *feel* more like a libran??

Gemini, libra and pisces are all rather similar. All are restless procrastinating and indecisive. Gemini though is notorious for not making decisions and sitting on the fence...

posted February 03, 2012 06:08 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
so how would all these air/gemini traits make her *feel* more like a libran??

Gemini, libra and pisces are all rather similar. All are restless procrastinating and indecisive. Gemini though is notorious for not making decisions and sitting on the fence...

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Gemini- I would call that patient BUT it depends on all the other aspects on the chart.

posted February 03, 2012 06:39 PM            

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I have a temper, yes, but I will not and have never used it on anyone. I keep my temper very well. I hate conflict. I'm an excellent mediator,

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Mars Quincunx Pluto
“You suffer by having a picture of just what needs to be done and how it is to be accomplished. This can cause you to be controlling and argumentative. When you feel the weight of the responsibilities that you have taken on or when you feel lonely and isolated, then, you are ripe for personal growth. Your desire, manner of expression, and the way you use energy will have to be changed - to be less compulsive, less forceful, so you are able to achieve greater accomplishment and more personal happiness.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/q...retations.html

Mars= actions, Pluto is about control, depth, subversive things. So maybe sometimes you act (mars) too forcefully for a given situation perhaps? Have you ever had feedback from someone that your actions were bit OTT for a situation?? Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. These will either help or hinder the situation. this aspect could potentially attract violence....or you 'could' attract threatening situations? This aspect needs to be doing something physical the riskier the better, like sports, martial arts, mountain climbing or bungee jumping.
http://www.celestialperspective.com/library/marspluto-aspectswhat-determines-theyre
mars/Pluto aspects by Donna Cunningham

posted February 03, 2012 11:49 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
hi, I've seen your chart around AW.

Perhaps you could explain why traits or why you think you are more libran??

Gemini Asc (along with pisces) is probably one of the most difficult in childhood. I call gemini risers the 'why children' wearing parents down asking questions, why why why. How does this work, why does that do this? sometimes I think parents 'switch off' from constant questions and then the child feels alientated, misunderstood, bit like a square peg in round hole. does this resonate?

In Equal house your stellium in cappi would be in the house of Libra/Angular and would take on some libra qualities....

Also pluto would be 5th house suggesting *plutonic childhood*

Pluto in 5th House - succeedent
Plutonic childhood. At least one of your children will be Scorpionic in nature. Want control over love affairs and children. Should produce talented children. You tend to be dominated by romantic partner or children.Another common feature is creative work actors, painters, musicians. Or just enjoying hobbies

Pluto in 6th House - cadent
Workaholic. may be a great stickler for routine and discipline, maybe hard on themselves
Health hate to admit to illnesses.
Can make a career over being ill hypochondria.
Obsessed over health. If Pluto is afflicted may suggest bowel problems (Pluto characteristic constipating action in the literal sense)
If lack of fulfillment through work, could overeat or comfort eat

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Can I ask why you still mention Equal house even if the OP doesn't use it? One would assume they not mention it at all.

Why I think/feel more Libran...

-I'm diplomatic.
-I hate conflict with other people and just like keeping the peace.
-I would rather repress what's bothering me than risk losing or angering that person by rocking the boat.
-When hearing about friend's stories I always ask them for the other side before giving my opinion,
-I'm fair. I don't side with my friend just because they're my friend.
-I'm definitely creative and into art, which may be an Aries thing but I know Librans are ruled by Venus and whatnot.
-I'm very into cosmetics and expensive accessories. Not bragging, I just have expensive taste.
-I am ALL about fairness and equality, and treat everybody equally.
-I'm on the fence about most things, moderate in politics, agnostic to spiritual in religion.
-Big flirt.
-I contradict myself a lot.
-I love to debate and hearing all angles and sides to the story.

Astrology-online has some interesting tidbits where they put a "problem" of the sign and then a solution. The majority of the "problems" they presented Libras having, fit me.

The list could go on and on.

If Gemini and Libran are so similar, then I wonder what their differences could possibly be? After reading more descriptions on Librans and wondering if all of this is going to get contributed to my Sun/Venus/Merc conjunctions in the house of Aquarius, or my Gemini rising I wonder why there's a difference between them at all. They should make a sign combining them and call it a day.

posted February 04, 2012 09:35 AM            

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Can I ask why you still mention Equal house even if the OP doesn't use it? One would assume they not mention it at all.

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I menton this to explain how I intend responded to members charts and that they might like to try an alternative to simply the default on astro.com

posted February 04, 2012 09:46 AM            

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-I'm definitely creative and into art, which may be an Aries thing but I know Librans are ruled by Venus and whatnot.

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If Gemini and Libran are so similar, then I wonder what their differences could possibly be? After reading more descriptions on Librans and wondering if all of this is going to get contributed to my Sun/Venus/Merc conjunctions in the house of Aquarius, or my Gemini rising I wonder why there's a difference between them at all. They should make a sign combining them and call it a day.

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Houses/signs are like the backdrop of a stage/theatre, planets in houses behave like actors on a stage, the *aspects* show how these planets/actor behave in a house

So yes, exalted moon taurus in 11th house of aquarius has an emotional need to nurture friends and see nurturance from them

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-I hate conflict with other people and just like keeping the peace.

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mars in 12th is frustrated when taking actions and has learnt from childhood not to take direct actions, as it probably didn't get the results you wanted...

posted February 04, 2012 10:07 AM            

Librans *can be* crippled by their own indecisiveness. They can stop people arguing with just the odd word, or start one by just the odd word

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I know/am assuming these can be explained away by looking at my aspects or something, but I find it interesting that my progressed chart went into motion after I turned 13 making me more Taurean, for one, and secondly that would put my Prog. SN at Libra.

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Prog mars has also just changed signs into cancer, so more energy put into family matters, issues and self
Currently T Uranus is squaring prog mars, which could cause to actions become impulsive, poss accident prone even..

regarding relationships, they do look problematic with outers in 7th and pluto in 5th conjunct vertex AND is a singleton. this latter one shows transformations through romance, lovers. But looking at the rulers of 1st and 7th mercury and jupiter, don't make an aspect, again this can suggest problems. Adding further problems is venus square neptune, rose tinted glasses in romance and finances, Venus opp saturn shows feeling of being unloved in early childhood and developing a slow cautious nature. Almost as if these two latter aspect balance each other out

going back on topic of libra traits, 3outers in the house of libra will take on a libran flaour to the 3planets acting out their drama in 7th..

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-I'm on the fence about most things, moderate in politics, agnostic to spiritual in religion.

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-Big flirt.
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and secondly that would put my Prog. SN at Libra.

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-I'm very into cosmetics and expensive accessories. Not bragging, I just have expensive taste.

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posted February 04, 2012 10:18 AM            

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SaggiMC, you as well as I know you've given me those links and excerpts a hundred times. I'm afraid it doesn't apply here. I stated I have a temper because I don't know/haven't ever seen Libra's tempers to compare. If you keep reading you'll see I also never use it on anyone and keep it very well which I thought was a Libran trait - patience.

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I haven's said anywhere you would lose your temper. I simply pointed out the quincunx with mars/pluto *can* attract violence or give it out, but as your in 12th which gets *dissolved* somewhat here and frustrated with actions...

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I have a temper, yes, but I will not and have never used it on anyone. I keep my temper very well. I hate conflict. I'm an excellent mediator

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So you should be with pisces North Node conj MC. If this is your best asset then why not use in career?

posted February 04, 2012 11:17 AM            

I haven's said anywhere you would lose your temper. I simply pointed out the quincunx with mars/pluto *can* attract violence or give it out, but as your in 12th which gets *dissolved* somewhat here and frustrated with actions..."

*Chuckle.*

I've learned from them just fine. My point is you often just pick out things to talk about on your own that have nothing to do with the topic.

posted February 04, 2012 11:31 AM            

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'making you more taurean' and NOW prog sun is conj moon a major new cycle is starting. Prog mercury has just changed signs into gemini. This should make your more curious, look into lots of interests, hobbies, creative things..and of course communications may become more superficial (gemini don't like having to a scorpio deep and meaningful)

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But I'm already like that because of my Gemini rising, so how does Mercury in Gem still apply? Does it just increase it's influence then?

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Prog mars has also just changed signs into cancer, so more energy put into family matters, issues and self
Currently T Uranus is squaring prog mars, which could cause to actions become impulsive, poss accident prone even..

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I'm trying to understand this but again I'm thinking "Well, I'm an Aries. I'm already 'impulsive'." Not accident prone though.

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regarding relationships, they do look problematic with outers in 7th and pluto in 5th conjunct vertex AND is a singleton. this latter one shows transformations through romance, lovers. But looking at the rulers of 1st and 7th mercury and jupiter, don't make an aspect, again this can suggest problems. Adding further problems is venus square neptune, rose tinted glasses in romance and finances, Venus opp saturn shows feeling of being unloved in early childhood and developing a slow cautious nature. Almost as if these two latter aspect balance each other out

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No.................. I'm using WHOLE SIGNS! There's nothing in my 7th or 5th anymore.

I also have Venus sq. Saturn, but I suppose that was a mistype. I didn't feel unloved during childhood but I do have a slow cautious nature. I didn't know that would affect my nature though, just thought it would affect my love life. Venus square Neptune isn't too bad, I just tend to romanticize people. For instance I'll see a dangerous criminal and turn it into a Robin Hood story. But I'm getting better about that.

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[quote]going back on topic of libra traits, 3outers in the house of libra will take on a libran flaour to the 3planets acting out their drama in 7th..

[QUOTE]-I am ALL about fairness and equality, and treat everybody equally.

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Sigh... What if they are in the 8th, and my 7th house is empty now due to Whole Signs?

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-I'm on the fence about most things, moderate in politics, agnostic to spiritual in religion.

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True. Gemini is a dual sign, but Libra is about the scales (which equates to "two" in my mind lol) Also Libras are wishy washy as is Gemini which is why I want to know their differences. This month was weird as I met three different Libra guys who all seemed to take a liking to me. All of them have Virgo in their chart as well.

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and secondly that would put my Prog. SN at Libra.

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Well, you can't really use it and western astrology at the same time! I do worry a lot but that's the only Virgo trait I see in myself... or I need to do more research on Virgos. I did always want to be a therapist though and I do have TONS of compassion for people. Friends always brought their problems to me.

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-I'm very into cosmetics and expensive accessories. Not bragging, I just have expensive taste.

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Ahhh... well, then.

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I don't use this. Besides you need to come away from Virgo South Node of details, worrying, health matters, and reach for North Node in Pisces conj MC. to learn about compassion, people bringing their problems to you, could be done professionally in therapy, counselling for example..

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Well, you can't really use it and western astrology at the same time![WHAT does this mean?] I do worry a lot but that's the only Virgo trait I see in myself... or I need to do more research on Virgos. I did always want to be a therapist though and I do have TONS of compassion for people. Friends always brought their problems to me.

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Pisces MC talking again. Life Lessons North Node conj MC....

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My point is you often just pick out things to talk about on your own that have nothing to do with the topic

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THAT's extremely Ungrateful, considering the time I've spent on YOUR chart here. How am I going off topic, when I'm still delinating your chart. If something doesn't resonate, just ignore it

I said whilst delinating your secondary progessions,

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:

'making you more taurean' and NOW prog sun is conj moon a major new cycle is starting. Prog mercury has just changed signs into gemini. This should make your more curious, look into lots of interests, hobbies, creative things..and of course communications may become more superficial (gemini don't like having to a scorpio deep and meaningful)

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posted February 05, 2012 02:21 PM            

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I also have Venus sq. Saturn, but I suppose that was a mistype. I didn't feel unloved during childhood but I do have a slow cautious nature. I didn't know that would affect my nature though, just thought it would affect my love life. Venus square Neptune isn't too bad, I just tend to romanticize people. For instance I'll see a dangerous criminal and turn it into a Robin Hood story. But I'm getting better about that.

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Do you remember me saying wherever a planet is by house is where that planet will express itself?? Venus is not just connecting to relationships, it's your artistic appreciation, pleasure, how you earn and spend your money. Where you get pleasure and give pleasure 'by house' and aspects...

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Sigh... What if they are in the 8th, and my 7th house is empty now due to Whole Signs?

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posted February 07, 2012 11:46 AM            

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Do you remember me saying wherever a planet is by house is where that planet will express itself?? Venus is not just connecting to relationships, it's your artistic appreciation, pleasure, how you earn and spend your money. Where you get pleasure and give pleasure 'by house' and aspects...

[QUOTE]Sigh... What if they are in the 8th, and my 7th house is empty now due to Whole Signs?

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Oh but if I ignore it, then you start whining "Whyyyy did you ignore this? I spent so much TIME on this!"

posted February 07, 2012 02:50 PM            

Respect is gained; cannot be demanded.