posted February 13, 2012 03:52 AM            

Then the people i dont have chemistry with, usually, earth signs--ugh! Except for virgo who i sometimes do but it's once in a blue moon---they act in the perfect way i would want a friend to act. They are perfectly condiderate and stable, and they try to stay in touch often and never do anything rude and it's great...but one problem! We just dont have any chemistry, and we both even admit it to each other. "I've just never felt close to you." A few of them end up telling me. The feeling is mutual!

Water signs..I've actually never felt close to a water sun person and never really had a water sun friend, except for two Cancers i think. But i never felt that close to them! I dont connect very well with fellow water sun people. It's weird. I felt closer to them emotionally than earth signs, but i could easily not have them in my life as if i didnt really need them bc tey had nothing to teach me. In that sense, i click a lot better with earth signs as far as personal chemistry goes.

Then the fire and air signs who tell me they love me all the time and give me all this love and caring and call me hun and pet names and who I actually feel Close to and who i truly feel care about me, Are friggin impulsive and unstable and insensitive and too independent for me.

So the people i feel a lot of trust with, i dont feel close to at all, and the people i distrust I feel really close to emotionally.

What will I do with myself? Why is this terrible thing happening to me LOL Help meee Arrrgh

My birth data
July 6, 1989
2:34 PM
havana, Cuba

Cancer sun
Leo moon
Libra rising
Cancer mercury
Cancer chiron
Leo venus
Leo mars
Gemini Jupiter
Capricorn uranus
Capricorn neptune
Capricorn saturn
Scorpio pluto
north node aqua

posted February 13, 2012 05:59 AM            

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I became insane, with long
intervals of horrible
sanity.-Poe

posted February 13, 2012 09:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Something else: being ruled by the Moon. Makes you loony!

P.S. Don't take anything I say seriously, RAS. I just troll this place cuz obviously nothing here should be taken seriously hahaha

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lol okay. Maybe you should put a disclaimer in your signature,

posted February 13, 2012 09:23 AM            

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not getting along with each other when they should. Its frustrating. Trines too easy, you get lazy, squares too hard and get angry. Nothing works!

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Yeahh..
It must be that, i guess! I read on the internet that if you have a masculine ascendant you have the best chemistry with masculine sun signs. The interesting thing is that they had this chart on their site that said how well you get along with each sun sign according to your rising, and it said if you have libra rising like me, you have the most chemistry with Aries and Libra people and gel with aqua and gemini, then get along but not as well with leo and sag. That is so true for me. I always make the most fun friendships with Aries and Libras...and then after a year it explodes in my face. And i always click with air signs. If there's a group of people, I bet you i'm gonna become friends with all the air signs and aries people there. That's what always happens. And then I also vibe with leo since i have leo moon, venus and mars. Don't vibe with sag nearly as well, in fact they kind of annoy me.

posted February 13, 2012 01:55 PM            

Most people also cant find jobs so theyre all prostituting themselves. My dad risked his life to get us out of there. It took 6 years to reunite with him here in the states. I met him when i was six.

No one can buy houses as the government owns everything and doesnt sell it, people looking to move out can only hope some old lady will let them move in with them, and then the young couple usually fixes the old lady's broken down house.

It didnt always used to be that way. That's the sad part. Cuba used to have the most booming economy and everyone was well off and lived comfortably. Then castro came in doing an Obama-esque thing that what we needed was change and he was going to change it all for the better. Mao Tse-tung did the same thing. Mostly teenagers and the poor voted for both of them. That's how it always is with communism. Their target audience is the poor and teens "We're going to help you! We need reform!" And then once he was elected, he took away everyone homes and farms and businesses. Everything now belonged to the government (that's how communism says it should be). And the rich left the clubtry before castro could distribute their money to the poor. The few rich that stayed became poor and unmotivated just like everyone else, being unable to own anything, and being unmotivated to work since their money was going to be taken away anyway.

posted February 13, 2012 09:19 PM            

AriesDragon...oh! Lolol Here I am thinking you had no idea. That's good. I'm glad u already knew...

Happy Valentines day to you, too dear

And birdy...for real? Lol i've never seen you on the forums before. How come i feel like a sister to you? thank you.
By the way, what you said means a lot. It's both a curse and a blessing to love this deeply....and i'm glad someone understands. Seriously.

posted February 13, 2012 09:56 PM            

Aries DSC
Aquarius NN
Leo Moon/Venus/Mars/SN/DSC ruler

All those factors are related to: the type of people you attract, the type of people you're attracted to, what you feel comfortable with, what you love, what you're used to, where you're going, and what you're supposed to learn.

So it seems you're not gonna get away from them. There's just too many masculine factors there.
What you can do is just, for example if you want a fiery type friend, then get one that has Venus/Moon/Mercury and/or DSC in Water so that they can understand/appreciate your Water Sun/Mercury.

It's not really that hard. Leo Sun w. Cancer Merc/Venus, Aqua Rising conj your NN for example, anything like that.
Or since you have enough Fire maybe you'd rather have Air, so a Libra w. Scorp Venus w. Capricorn ASC.

posted February 14, 2012 01:56 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Your Leo moon means you require a LOT of attention, more than average quite frankly. But you also have the capacity to GIVE.

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I echo that. With Moon, Venus and Mars in Leo, it is likely you want a lot of attention. Leo is also a fixed sign, so you want consistency too, ie keep up with lots of attention. Of course you will be willing to give the same.

For most air people, they are non-clingy people. From their perspective, they might be giving you a lot of attention already (as compared to say their other friends). So it might make you feel better if you can take a step back and be more objective to notice that while they are not meeting your ideal in the level of attention you'd like, overall, it is very good already.

In addition, you have Sun/Mer Cancer and Fire signs in particular are not known for their sensitivities, so they might do something inadvertently that upset you, but they do not mean ill.

In relationships (friendship as well as romantic), it needs to be give and take. If you feel close to someone, maybe you can try to understand what they are like and try to find a happy medium to interact. With your Libra rising, you should be able to do that well if you want to.

posted February 14, 2012 02:40 AM            

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Originally posted by yuting:

For most air people, they are non-clingy people. From their perspective, they might be giving you a lot of attention already (as compared to say their other friends). So it might make you feel better if you can take a step back and be more objective to notice that while they are not meeting your ideal in the level of attention you'd like, overall, it is very good already.

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YES. I think my Gemini placements is why my relationships with Leos do not stick, and yet my Taurus moon (and already being an Aries) make us similar.

They have the same problem Aries do in projecting their own needs onto someone else, thinking they know what's best for them and I've found it's hard to get to them to listen and understand their needs are not my needs. And the Gemini part of me is fine with give and take as long as they're meeting my Moon needs! So basically, I don't mind giving you a lot of attention as long as you give me a lot of space. It's quite a fickle concept but the more space I have, the more attention you'll get (Sag DSC here too.)

Leos seem to feel threatened by emotional space though. When they love you they are like all over you and smother you basically which it'd be hard to hear the muffled screams when your being smothered in warmth and gooeyness but try anyways.

posted February 14, 2012 03:07 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Yeahh..
It must be that, i guess! I read on the internet that if you have a masculine ascendant you have the best chemistry with masculine sun signs. The interesting thing is that they had this chart on their site that said how well you get along with each sun sign according to your rising, and it said if you have libra rising like me, you have the most chemistry with Aries and Libra people and gel with aqua and gemini, then get along but not as well with leo and sag. That is so true for me. I always make the most fun friendships with Aries and Libras...and then after a year it explodes in my face. And i always click with air signs. If there's a group of people, I bet you i'm gonna become friends with all the air signs and aries people there. That's what always happens. And then I also vibe with leo since i have leo moon, venus and mars. Don't vibe with sag nearly as well, in fact they kind of annoy me.

What are your placements, L0veLess?

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posted February 14, 2012 03:38 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Leos seem to feel threatened by emotional space though. When they love you they are like all over you and smother you basically which it'd be hard to hear the muffled screams when your being smothered in warmth and gooeyness but try anyways.

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I hear you! I am Leo Sun/Venus and Aries Moon and Taurus Asc. I love attention (no, not denying it), and yes, quite stubborn and fixed. But over the years, I am learning that many others need space. In fact I need mine too (Mar/NN/MC in Aquarius, Moon opp Uranus). So I am learning to tune down my personal demand for attention and rationalize my jealousy (still learning, everyday). And though not very good yet, I think I am having better personal relationship with other people all round.

posted February 14, 2012 04:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Minus house placements off the bat I see,

Aries DSC
Aquarius NN
Leo Moon/Venus/Mars/SN/DSC ruler

All those factors are related to: the type of people you attract, the type of people you're attracted to, what you feel comfortable with, what you love, what you're used to, where you're going, and what you're supposed to learn.

So it seems you're not gonna get away from them. There's just too many masculine factors there.
What you can do is just, for example if you want a fiery type friend, then get one that has Venus/Moon/Mercury and/or DSC in Water so that they can understand/appreciate your Water Sun/Mercury.

It's not really that hard. Leo Sun w. Cancer Merc/Venus, Aqua Rising conj your NN for example, anything like that.
Or since you have enough Fire maybe you'd rather have Air, so a Libra w. Scorp Venus w. Capricorn ASC.

Sounds simple enough to me. A lot of natals are complex like this.
Your opposite is basically an Air/Earth person since you have enough Fire/Water in the personals, so that could be intriguing too.

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Lonake, I love this. Thanks for pointing out where it was coming from in my natal chart. I was itching to find that out bc it was k.i.l.l. killing me. Thanks so much everyone for the help! I've had the best chemistry with air/earth people, but we seem to be too different in the end..they don't understand my ways, and i dont understand theirs. I've been friends with air and fire signs with water venuses and water moons and mercuries..even water ascendants and dsc. That didnt change a thing. They still failed to understand me, and i still felt they were too inconsistent, insensitive, changeable, and unloyal.

And yes, having so much fire myself i do appreciate the air signs a lot more than fire.

Hannarama, everything you said is true about the needing extra steady stream of attention since i have so much leo. I dont really vibe with pisces though. They seem too serious for me. We can never joke around together. And yes, you're right, I can be very blunt. Hmmm..Scorpios? They get my sense of humor, but they can never make me laugh :/. They're sweet though. I love them as people, but we just dont have that mental spark. I do have more of a mental spark with capricorn, cancer, and sometimes taurus, but it feels heavy and draining at the same time, especially with taurus...i guess because they square all my leo. Maybe i just need to find the right feminine sign. I think that's it . I dont run into many feminine signs....they're always hiding studying or working somewhere prolly...or cleaning their houses .

posted February 14, 2012 12:34 PM            

Am trying to upload your parallels but can't seem to do this. If anyone knows how to upload Abode files or convert to a program that will allow me to upload please advise...

The time you gave brings your Asc as 0' Scorpio rising
there is a big difference between libra and scorpio rising. How sure are you of your TOB?

Scorpio rising is a very very private sign and pluto in first shows you hold yourself aloof, distant even.

Pluto in 1st House – angular
Tends to be a loner and hold innermost self aloof from those around. Penetrating gaze. Person power and will is indicated. Much more below the surface than is shown above. Very private person – holds secret
Tunnel vision when concentrating will always finish things.
Usually deep penetrating eyes. Intensity comes over even when being silent
A marvelous sense of purpose is generally present, and must be expressed and fulfilled otherwise an inner seething and sense of dissatisfaction may be the result
If Pluto is afflicted and could cause deep rooted psychological problems that can emerge as physical ailments.
The nearer Pluto lies to the Ascending degree, the stronger its influence will be. The planet's influence will darken the personality, adding an incisive and deep, emotionally intense quality.

Pluto is afflicted with a square to venus, AND venus has two quincunx to neptune and saturn. These last two can cause depression.

Saturn conj Neptune http://astrologyforthesoul.com/billstreett/satnepgestalt.html http://astrology.astrozoom.com/index.php?title=NEPTUNE_CONJUNCTION_OR_PARALLEL_TO_SATU RN

Saturn conj/square/opposite neptune can show a fear of the unknown..although these are generational planets, posited in bottom left quadrant makes them felt internally...It can also be linked to depression when triggered and/or having your childhood dreams crushed by father, males and/or authority figures.

when we talk about friends we look to 11th house

Ruler of the Eleventh House in the Ninth House

"Many of your friends and acquaintances may come from overseas or they're part of a foreign culture. If you become involved in a humanitarian cause, it could be connected to foreign countries or cultures somehow.
Organizations with a common cause, friends, or large groups of people may somehow have an influence on your life philosophy or belief system. You could have a desire to create large scale change through more traditional orthodox religious traditions" http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr11

You should also research your mars square pluto http://www.celestialperspective.com/library/marspluto-aspectswhat-determines-theyre
mars/Pluto aspects by Donna Cunningham

posted February 14, 2012 12:42 PM            

"With this aspect in the Progressed Chart, the personality will experience applied emotional energy. Your actions will take on emotional intensity. Sexual impulses may be enhanced emotionally, bringing a deeper meaning and greater understanding. Consequently, relationships could be enhanced now. On the negative side, sexual frustration could cause the possibility of violent impulses to surface. These feelings must be sublimated. Physical exercise will help, and prayer and meditation are indicated." http://www.cafeastrology.com/progressedplanetsaspects.html

Transiting Saturn is now conjunct Asc. This may well sap any phsyical energies.

Basic astrology forum discussing Saturn in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000660.html

Basic astrology forum discussing Neptune in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000661.html

Basic astrology forum discussing Uranus in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000662.html

Basic astrology forum discussing Pluto in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000663.html

Basic astrology forum, Learn the basics, Free courses + House systems. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000671.html

Jupiter is also a singleton ie: only planet in air element

Basic astrology forum, retrogrades,Unaspected & Singletons http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Basic+Astrology&number=12&DaysPrune=

posted February 14, 2012 12:47 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
No...my juno is in virgo...an earth sign! Ugh! lolol

Lol thanks. Been there before?

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now, venus quincunx saturn
venus quincunx Saturn http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=323983&postcount=22
venus quincunx Saturn
restriction and lack of affection in childhood. Father, males and/or (saturn) authority figure may not understand what brings you pleasure (venus)

Venus Quincunx Saturn
“You have difficulty seeing what you are actually responsible for in relationships. Consequently, you take on more responsibilities than necessary in order to insure the continuation of your relationships. Do people like you for you or because of what you do for them? You are easily confused on this point. If you are busy doing things for people, they never get a chance to know the real you.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

mars quincunx Saturn– hard aspects
this suggest they will suffer in relationships and couldn't do anything about it and probably won't understand why either...
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=316323 &postcount=21
mars quincunx Saturn– hard aspects
this suggest they will suffer in relationships and couldn't do anything about it and probably won't understand why either...

There is *something* about taking action (mars) that is at odds with saturn. But I think with the quincunx there is less *conscious awareness* of these two energies and how they act, that's why their lack of understand comes in. They act in a certain way and dont' understand why they 'get back' the reactions that they do, if that makes sense?

I think with the mainstream, hard aspects there IS more conscious awareness of the energies and how the act and 'have to' blend but with the quincunx it seems like it's harder to see/recognise and blend.

Mars Quincunx Saturn
“Your sense that only you can do something right is lodged in your imbalanced self picture. Too much work and too little spectrum of relating leaves you feeling slightly victimized by life. You create your own limits. Slowing down and quieting down helps you see this. You need a better sense of time, then you achieve better results with less effort. You can do this as soon as you are more balanced in your outlook and your judgment works in a less comparative mode.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

Sometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings.

Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesis
What tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...