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tautomer4314
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posted February 15, 2012 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone,

I would like some opinions on this. In a romantic sense, what would be some idealized placements for me to be paired up with. Meaning, what signs would a good partner have that would match up with me well. In the sense of what I would NEED.

I also believe it would be important to factor how those placements would fair with mine as well. Just because I would feel compatible with someone, doesn't mean they will feel compatible with me.

Additionally, what are some placements I would really need to avoid?

Chart (I included a few asteroids as I know they can play an important roll. I THINK Juno is the one that does, but I can't remember):

The reason I am asking is partly because I want to compare it to some experience I have had in the past with various signs and placements and how it felt for me.

Thanks!

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SaggiMC
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posted February 15, 2012 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would suggest don't get involved with capricorns as there planets would make quincunx 150' aspects to your planets. three signs to avoid, your opposite sign and the sign either side of the opp one, as these form 150' quincunxs...

Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
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mars/aries rules 7th and mars is afflicted by opposition to neptune

Mars square Neptune
Mars Neptune Square Mars Neptune Opposition
Painful things either ignored ie self deception, or hypochondriac type, imaginary things (Neptune) Deceive or be deceived http://www.astrologyindepth.com/Mars_square_Neptune http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13104&page=2 http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11521 http://astrology.astrozoom.com/index.php?title=NEPTUNE_PARALLEL%2C_CONJUNCTION%2C_SQUARE_OR_OPPOSITION_TO_MARS

the opp may hold less tension thana the square, but you shoul identify with it nonetheless.

chiron, node,Juno are not included in aspect patterns

You have a Yod with Jupier as Apex planet
Yods and quincunx thread in basic astrology forum http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000664.html
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Venus quincunx neptune
“sensitive, imaginative and inspired, however, you experience great stress in using these abilities. You attempt to use your talents all at once, as if you had a deadline to meet and were afraid of failing. Do not be in such a hurry. Learn to make compromises with your desires to avoid physical exhaustion. Your professional life can be oppressive if you allow others to take advantage of your desire to gain approval/praise. Do not try to be liked by everyone. Being well thought of does not relieve your burdens and can frustrate your need to express your creative potentials.”
From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Venus Quincunx Neptune
“You are suffering at times because you are attracted to inaccurate perceptions of others. This is based on incorrect appraisals of who you are and where you are going. You approach the unachievable with naive confidence, then get confused when you aren't able to be complete with your various projects. This creates an environment where others find you unapproachable and difficult to know. As you show genuine self-acceptance (including your limitations) your range of love expression increases.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

Sometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings.

Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesis
What tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...

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SaggiMC
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posted February 15, 2012 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ruler of the Seventh House in the Ninth House

"Your spouse may be from a foreign country or he/she may simply come from a culture that is very different from your own background. You might prefer a living together arrangement with a partner rather than making a legal commitment. However, it may be that your attitude towards marriage was heavily influenced by your religious beliefs or your religious upbringing. Additionally, a partner or even very close friends might be able to influence your philosophical ideas about spiritual matters." http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr7


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posted February 15, 2012 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Their Mars in Pisces in your Fifth House trining your own Mars in Cancer. That would lead to some pretty healthy physical affection.

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tautomer4314
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posted February 15, 2012 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RedScorp:
Their Mars in Pisces in your Fifth House trining your own Mars in Cancer. That would lead to some pretty healthy physical affection.

Heh, all of the pisces mars's I have met have ticked me off (even in friendship) . Too expective passive and malleable. No resistance, and the resistance that is there is simply avoidant by nature.

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posted February 15, 2012 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SaggiMC- a lot of that stuff is spot on. Capricorns and me don't mix to begin with. I largely find most of them quite boring anyway, so they don't even catch my attention.

The inconjunct info is also dead accurate for me. I have worked on those issues quite a bit in my life and have gotten past a good chunk of it. The biggest being my tendancy to be everything and do everything at once; that just leads to burnout and failure.

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posted February 15, 2012 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
Heh, all of the pisces mars's I have met have ticked me off (even in friendship) . Too expective passive and malleable. No resistance, and the resistance that is there is simply avoidant by nature.

REALLY?! WELL SHIIIIIT. My first attempt and I was wrong. MY APOLOGIESSSS.

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tautomer4314
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posted February 16, 2012 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
REALLY?! WELL SHIIIIIT. My first attempt and I was wrong. MY APOLOGIESSSS.

No worries. Water mars is just a bad placement for me. In friendships I can jive with it if there are other beneficial placements. In relationships though it just hasn't worked in my experience. Cancer mars is just too "weak" and can't take pressure well (mind you I have mars in cancer but I have worked on it A LOT). Scorpio mars is simply too tempermental, and if they try to cross me and take any sort of revenge they are DONE. I have absolutely no tollerance for that. Pisces I already explained.

All other mars placements more or less seem like they will be alright.

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posted February 16, 2012 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tautomer4314:
All other mars placements more or less seem like they will be alright.

How about good ol' Leo Mars?

(also, side note: I read that ESFPs have a tendency to "enough about me, what do you think about me?")

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SaggiMC
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posted February 16, 2012 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you could always research your Juno and vertex

"In this case, Juno is by far the best, most accurate indicator for not only marriage, but also the marriage and divorce. So, adding up the Juno hits we get Juno by transit, a major outer planet transit to natal Juno, Juno by progression, and a major progression to Juno -- this is all the astrologer needs to know.
The Juno-Venus connection between two people is the best of all possible worlds, combining love and marriage.
Astrologer Ariel Guttman reports that a study she conducted in 1986 shows the importance of Juno in long-term marriages. One partner's Juno aspecting the other's Ascendant/Descendant axis was the most frequently occurring connection between married couple's charts. Extrapolating from this revelation, we can see the importance of Juno by sign as an indicator of what partner's are looking for in a mate. Juno represents a style of relationship"

Juno and asteriods http://www.terrynazon.com/Asteroids.html http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Juno21.3.html http://www.astrologycom.com/aster.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroids_in_astrology http://astrologyexpressed.wordpress.com/2009/06/08/juno-in-synastry/ http://www.astrologymatch.com/asteroids.htm http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/juno.html

"The Vertex is not a planet. It is an intersection of the ecliptic with the prime vertical (Nadir) in the West. In an astrological Chart, The Vertex always appears in the Western Hemisphere of the chart, usually through Houses 5-8. Because of the location of the Vertex in the West, the nature of the Vertex is about the "relating" principle. The house the Vertex is located in your own birth chart will define the types of relationships you seek or draw into your life and how you utilize the principle of relating in all of your relationships.

When people you meet have planets conjunct your vertex or visa versa you will see something special about them...and you do not usually forget the person. There is an instant connection on some level and for some specific purpose. The nature of the relationship can be intense and have a sense of fatedness. It seems that the vertex attracts important or fated people and events into our lives. Examples: If ones person's Mars is conjunct (the same astrological degree) your own Vertex you will probably think that person to be very sexy/sexual and connected with their dynamic energy. The may either incite or excite you! When a person's Saturn is conjunct your Vertex, they may be somewhat "stabilizing" or offer some sage advice to you. You may look up to this person for the discipline, lessons or structures they bring into your life or visa versa. We do not always welcome the lessons or Saturnian energy one brings to a relationship."

Vertex
"Those who use the Vertex generally feel it is a point of karmic or fated connection. Some consider it a point of "wish fulfillment". It is perhaps most widely used in synastry. The Vertex is said to be activated at major turning points in our lives, most notably when we meet a significant other or end a significant relationship, and some believe it is triggered when there is a birth or death"
http://www.cafeastrology.com/vertex.html http://www.falconastrology.com/vertex.htm

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posted February 18, 2012 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You need someone with some FIRE, seeing as you lack it. Aries may be best. Perhaps someone with some scorp (energy) and/or aqua placements

Ps. AND vertex/antivertex contacts tike SaggiMC said. It has to be the relocated (if you have moved from the place you were born) vertex. The conjunctions or solstice points are the ones that are strongly noticed.

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Doux Rêve
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posted February 18, 2012 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi tautomer4314 (I find your username intriguing!).

Okay so when I look at your chart, Sagittarius and Scorpio are what comes to mind.

Why? Because you have a Gemini stellium, so Sagittarius would probably be very attractive to you, and can provide some balance.
Plus, your Descendant ruler is Mars, which is in the 9th house, Sagittarius's house!

Also, you have a Taurus Sun, Scorpio Moon and 8th house stellium, so someone whose placements fall in that polarity will probably appeal to you.

So I'd think someone with Scorpio, Sagittarius energy and maybe something in Taurus as it is your 7th/8th houses.

I can see why you get along well with Aquarius/Pisces placements because they fall in your 4th and 5th houses, so probably something in these signs, too (and especially because your NN is in Pisces).

I think you need someone who can enjoy your intensity and depth, but at the same time help you see the bigger picture, and "take you out of your shell".

Does that make sense to you?

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posted February 20, 2012 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Hi tautomer4314 (I find your username intriguing!).

Okay so when I look at your chart, Sagittarius and Scorpio are what comes to mind.

Why? Because you have a Gemini stellium, so Sagittarius would probably be very attractive to you, and can provide some balance.
Plus, your Descendant ruler is Mars, which is in the 9th house, Sagittarius's house!

Also, you have a Taurus Sun, Scorpio Moon and 8th house stellium, so someone whose placements fall in that polarity will probably appeal to you.

So I'd think someone with Scorpio, Sagittarius energy and maybe something in Taurus as it is your 7th/8th houses.

I can see why you get along well with Aquarius/Pisces placements because they fall in your 4th and 5th houses, so probably something in these signs, too (and especially because your NN is in Pisces).

I think you need someone who can enjoy your intensity and depth, but at the same time help you see the bigger picture, and "take you out of your shell".

Does that make sense to you?


Taurus and saggitarius are 150'quincunx signs and really don't get along. I'm a taurus sun and was married to Saggi, my mother is a Saggi exactly quincunx my sun, and we REALLY don't get along, there will always be something that doesn't gel...

Now I can't tell whether you are male or female (always worth mentioning)

When looking at a woman’s chart the type of man she would look for is her sun sign and mars traits, plus 7th house planets and house cusp ruler and where that ruler was deposited.
When looking at a mans chart for the type of woman he would look for is his venus and moon sign and then 7th house planets and house cusp ruler and where that ruler was deposited.

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posted February 20, 2012 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tautomer is a man and he is gay, so what should we look at in this case?


I still think he needs some fire in a partner though.

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tautomer4314
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posted February 22, 2012 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I DEFINITELY need a guy with fire. No question about it. In guys I tend to be drawn to guys that have a lot of fire. I feel a sense of magnetism towards that sort of element.

So within the fire elements (aries, leo, sag), I honestly feel + and - with each of them in different ways. I can but heads badly with sag's despite usually getting along with them well. If their mercury opposes mine though; forget it. There will be non stop phislophical arguments of which we have vastly different opinions on, and it will drive me insane.

Aries I actually have very little experience with. Friendships never seem to form with them. I have one aries friend who I love, but she has mercury and venus in pisces, so she is a bad example. The biggest irk with aries energy is the often don't dig deep within themselves or others, and often flat out refuse to. That's a huge no no with me.

Leo's seem to be drawn to me more then I am drawn to them. I've gone on dates with A LOT of leo's actually, but I end up not liking them in the end. They all had virgo mercury though, which usually kills it for me.


Either way I am going to end up going with who ever I fall for. My gut tells me I should get with an aries. Out of all the fire signs I feel like they would be the best compliment for me, without having too many differences.

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posted February 22, 2012 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for L0veLess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait?! are yu a girl or a guy?
dangit!
cos i think WE'd be pretty DAMN compatible! Seriously!
we both have scorp moon conj pluto and a Libra ascendant. i have venus in cap and mars in sag. and im cap sun and yur taurus sun and our mercuries don't match too well mine is cap but we sound like soul mates!
ALSO! we are both born on the 19th but im in january of course. thats good i heard.
And we were born on fridays! my goshness!

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posted February 22, 2012 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by L0veLess:
Wait?! are yu a girl or a guy?
dangit!
cos i think WE'd be pretty DAMN compatible! Seriously!
we both have scorp moon conj pluto and a Libra ascendant. i have venus in cap and mars in sag. and im cap sun and yur taurus sun and our mercuries don't match too well mine is cap but we sound like soul mates!
ALSO! we are both born on the 19th but im in january of course. thats good i heard.
And we were born on fridays! my goshness!


Indeed it does sound like we'd be pretty compatible . Alas, I am indeed a guy and gay.

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posted February 22, 2012 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for L0veLess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NOOOOOOOOOOO! >.<!!!! well i wish yu the best

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posted February 26, 2012 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lava Flower:
You need someone with some FIRE, seeing as you lack it. Aries may be best. Perhaps someone with some scorp (energy) and/or aqua placements

Ps. AND vertex/antivertex contacts tike SaggiMC said. It has to be the relocated (if you have moved from the place you were born) vertex. The conjunctions or solstice points are the ones that are strongly noticed.


I don't necessarily go along with this idea if you lack an element, a partner should have this. But the elephant in the room for which no one has mentioned yet is ARIES ruling 7th house

Aries would form sextiles to all gemini plannets, with the caveat that not mid aries, but either late or early, so as to avoid a square to cappi planets.

Pisces could work, late aquarius conj node would be wonderful, pisces would be a square to gemini, but with them both being mutable (the most adaptable) i don't envisage to many problems..

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