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appleberry
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posted February 26, 2012 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EDIT ADD: The ACTUAL FIRST MEETING CHART IS BELOW...
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EDIT ADD: There are several charts posted below now... weighing which meeting chart is the most beneficial.
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This is a chart for a possible first meeting with someone on a romantic level.

This looks promising but am I missing anything?

Good things that I am seeing:
-Moon parallel Fixed star Reg
-Sun in the 5th
-Asc in Libra
-Venus/POF/Jupiter in the 7th
-Vertex in the 8th
-2 Grand trines
-numerous positive aspects
-Venus Exhalted


Not sure about:
-Moon and MarsRx in the 11th
-SaturnRx in the 1st
-Neptune/Chiron in the 5th
-Lots of elements in Earth
-Uranus in the 6th


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posted February 26, 2012 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would avoid Sun opp Mars rx. Sun is the energy of the relationship/meeting. I would feel this could cause a lot of misunderstandings, criticism, and repressed anger over things not discussed out of fear. 1st and 7th house ruler don't aspect. Again, with the criticism energy, Moon is in Virgo. Virgo is reserved, critical, helpful, but not the best placement for a romantic involvement.

The emotional connect is non existent. The ruler of the 7th is also rx. It might not ever get off the ground and if it does, it wouldn't be long lasting.

This meeting chart screams friendship and a good rapport.

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posted February 26, 2012 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my goodness... yes... so many things I wasn't considering...

I am going to post another possible meeting date...

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posted February 26, 2012 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is my second option...

Not sure that this one is much better...

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posted February 26, 2012 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have mercury rx in your natal or does he? If not, I wouldn't meet during one for the first time.

Still this chart, isn't a good one for romantic involvement. Ruler of 7th is rx. Venus and Mars don't aspect.

I would try maybe first Sun in Taurus.

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posted February 26, 2012 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Birdy: You were reading the first or second chart?

No neither of us have Mercury Rx

This is starting to get really depressing...


This is our Synastry & Composite charts...

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posted February 26, 2012 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I know how you feel, I've gone thru the same thing looking for a "perfect" meeting chart in the past.

I was looking at both. The 2nd one still has ruler of 7th in Virgo rx. Sun in Aries isn't good at all. Mercury rx....the 2nd one is worst I think.

Look in late April/early May. Look to meet on a new moon or after when the Moon is waxing, not waning.

I will keep helping you out here to find a good meet chart, just look around at some dates. Also see where the planets in the meeting chart touch on both of your charts...that's a good one to keep in mind.

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posted February 26, 2012 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's pretty tough because we had either chosen to meet on my birthday or sooner... waiting might cancel everything... people don't wait forever... things change...

Part of me thinks I should just go and enjoy the experience, knowing that it isn't really going to amount to anything...

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posted February 26, 2012 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The right person will wait.

If you go into that mindset, and are okay with that, then that's all you can do.

Good luck with the meeting. Let us know which one you decide on.

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posted February 26, 2012 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found another possibility:
UPDATE: this is the one I chose

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posted February 26, 2012 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The last chart looks like a "friends with benefit" energy to the chart. Sun opp Mars still. Theres a secretive theme in this meeting chart. Hiding the relationship in someway and/or not being able to be "public" about your association.

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posted February 27, 2012 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the last chart is probably the best one, the sextile between the Moon and saturn is connecting the first and 7th house

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posted February 27, 2012 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh dear... so difficult to figure out what to do. I don't feel like I have many choices because this involves buying a plane ticket.

However, no matter how much I plan... it might not be exact because of this. There could be flight delays making me later, traffic delays making him later, or for whatever other reason, we might not actually meet at the time I think we are going to meet...

But I've looked over our composite chart and it's pretty amazing. So, if I put this off to the point that it never happens, I think I would always regret it.

I am leaning towards the third option, even though it may have a secretive air about it because actually there might be other aspects of this relationship that make that okay.

I'm also leaning towards the Leo Asc/Moon because it actually seems like it would complement us as a couple. We are both in creative work fields. Also, the third choice has Jupiter very close to my nVenus/Juno parallel.

I don't know if I am making the right decision but we'll see how things turn out.

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posted February 27, 2012 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tofu addict:
I think the last chart is probably the best one, the sextile between the Moon and saturn is connecting the first and 7th house

Yes... I like that too... esp with a 1*orb.


Anyway... I have bought my plane ticket in accordance with this choice, but I expect the actual first meeting chart might not be exactly this because anything can happen...

Things that are changing in that window are the Asc... it could be Leo, Virgo or Libra (I'm guessing Leo and Libra are better for a relationship first meeting)... The moon could move from Leo to Virgo (don't want that)... the moon could go from applying to Saturn to Separating (I should try to avoid that shouldn't I?)...


One thing I am not sure about with this first meeting chart is that Mars, Eros and Psyche are all close conjunct (at 10, 11 & 12 Degrees), all Rx and all in the 12th house...

All in all, no matter what happens, this is going to be an interesting meeting in my life. No matter what happens, I'm looking forward to it.


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posted February 27, 2012 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
electional chart aspects http://www.cafeastrology.com/transittotransit.html

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posted February 27, 2012 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the link- I appreciate it!

Sun in Pisces The mystic, the martyr, the sinner, and the saint: these archetypes take on greater importance in your life at a time like this. Forgiveness, compassion, and understanding come naturally, when you look at life from an eternal perspective - and if anyone ever does know such things, you'll probably come to understand them as this cycle unfolds. This can be a phase of sublime spiritual development, to be sure. But you should be aware of tendencies to believe too quickly, too deeply, or to become dependent on things or people that seem to offer quick and easy answers to life's deepest yearnings.

Mercury in Aries New ideas and an independent or pioneering mental orientation take on more importance in your life at this time. Teaching, learning, communicating, and social contact have a way of outlining new directions in your life now, and there is much activity and involvement with these kinds of issues.

Venus in Taurus A love of music, an appreciation for sensual pleasures and others of the finer things in life - such are the signs of the cycle which has begun for you. This is aesthetic and artistic to be sure, but it is also practical and materialistic: you develop a keen appreciation for the value of things, including the money it takes to buy them.

Mars in Virgo As a new cycle dawns in your life, there arises a passion for details, a need to do just the right thing at just the right time, and a burning desire to have a place for everything and everything in its place. This can be hard on the digestion if taken to extremes! The satisfaction of a job well done is one of your greatest incentives now.

Jupiter in Taurus A kind of Midas touch is signaled by the new cycle now dawning in your life. Prosperity and security take center stage in your thoughts; a gentle but committed conservatism brings you all kinds of good things. Take care of the material things, and the spiritual will take care of itself: that's your orientation now.

Saturn in Libra Relationships and fairness take on a special importance in your life under the cycle you have just begun. An insistence on principles that don't allow room for personal differences can be a self-defeating tendency. True partnership means commitment and being responsible to the other person - a lesson that takes on greater importance as this cycle progresses.

Uranus in Aries A clean break with the past in some respects is signaled by the cycle you have just begun. What YOU need, YOUR freedom and independence, shattering old molds: these are the things that energize you and take priority in your life. Uniqueness and originality set you apart.

Neptune in Pisces (2011-) Things spiritual and psychic take the driver's seat of your imagination as you begin a new cycle. The fine arts and all manner of fantasies assume a larger-than-life importance. Surrendering to fate, karma, and other powers greater than merely mortal may be seen as the ultimate liberation. If all is maya (illusion), what is the reality that gives rise to the world of appearances?

Pluto in Capricorn As this new phase dawns for you, the pursuit of social/political power and status has a way of seeming necessary and inevitable - and let nothing stand in its way. It starts out small, but has bigger consequences than you'd think. Ambition, responsibility, a place for everyone and everyone in their place...

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posted February 27, 2012 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good link Luv cafe astrology as always

Sorry about the length of this but just for my own purposes later, cuz I know I'll come back to this, here are some of the things going on in chart 3:

Sun semi-square Venus. Irritations that seem to stem from others could be the reflection of our own inner uneasiness. Do your best to control yearnings for more and search for a creative solution for your inner dissatisfaction.

Sun opposition Mars. Careless or impulsive behavior can be a problem under this transit. It's easy to feel thwarted or to not be in touch with what it is we want at this time. If we do know what we want, how to go about getting it doesn't come naturally to us right now.

Sun sesquiquadrate Saturn. It's hard to satisfy the ego today. We feel blocked by circumstances or others. It's too easy to feel discouraged, but discouragement is a time waster. Gratitude isn't forthcoming right now, so it's best to wait it out rather than waste energy letting it get to you.

Moon Trine Venus?
Moon bQ Mercury?
Moon sextile Saturn?
Moon bQ Uranus?
Moon Opposite Neptune?
Moon Opposite Chiron?

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posted February 27, 2012 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury conjunct Uranus. The ability to grasp intellectual concepts is high right now. Our intuition is spot-on, and we tend to have the right idea at the right moment. The senses may be overloaded, to the point that we are scatter-brained, impulsive, nervous, or impatient. If channeled well, however, our ideas are inventive, original, progressive, and unbiased.

Mercury square Pluto. The tendency to read between the lines with a negative slant is strong during this transit, and can easily stir up trouble. Suspiciousness, making mountains out of molehills, telling others only what we want them to know are possible themes. Mental anxiety or troubles could manifest now. We should try to avoid forcing our ideas on others and strive to maintain an open mind. Compulsive thinking is possible. On the other hand, this influence can suggest the ability to engage in deep, penetrating communication.

Venus conjunct Jupiter. A potentially magical transit when we are especially generous and giving, optimistic, and kind towards others. We might also be quite indulgent under this influence. We might be tempted to overspend or overstate our feelings now. We are sociable, fun-loving, and desirous of sharing our happiness with others. We have large appetites for love and pleasure, and generosity of spirit as well. This can be an excellent influence for beginning a new relationship or financial undertaking, or for renewing and refreshing existing ties with others.


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posted February 27, 2012 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus opposition Saturn. We keep others at arm's length, unsure of whether we are loved or not. This is a somewhat inhibiting influence when it appears that people value utility over true love. An element of seriousness permeates our love relationships. We may feel criticized and inhibited, unloved and unsatisfied, but our worst enemies may be ourselves and our own fears of getting close to others. Not a good influence for financial endeavors. Burdens are magnified.

Venus sextile Neptune. We are more imaginative and attuned to the world of beauty and romance today. Gentleness with others is the best way to harness this energy. A "magical" time on a romantic and social level.

Venus trine Pluto. An excellent time for finances and for relationships, all things equal. Our feelings are intense and impassioned, but not in an offensive or destructive way. The need to share on deeper levels is strong now. A spiritual regeneration through love is possible.

Venus sextile Chiron. We have the chance to heal our personal relationships now, as we are more open to intimacy and commitment, as well as learning from one another. We more easily see beauty in human weaknesses. It's a strong time for building trust in relationships.

Mars trine Jupiter. Decisive action comes naturally now. We possess willpower, verve, and energy that we can direct toward achieving our goals. Success in contracts, negotiations, and business deals comes easily. We want to branch out and take on more challenges. A good time for making new goals or to initiate new projects (all things equal). Optimism and enthusiasm; adventurous spirit. Positive attitudes create winning situations now. Friendly competition. Taking action to better our lives.

Mars semi-square Saturn. We are called upon to solve problems, or our plans and efforts meet with resistance. Circumstances seem to block our efforts to assert ourselves. Patience is necessary now, although frustration is very likely. It can feel like more effort than usual is required to complete tasks.

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posted February 27, 2012 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars trine Pluto. This is a powerful aspect that helps us to focus on our goals, to take decisive action, and to go after what we want without stepping on others' toes. We are willing to explore alternatives rather than simply relying on the tried and true. We are not afraid of a challenge and are willing to attempt to overcome obstacles. This is a strong energy for reworking or overhauling a project.

Mars opposition Chiron. We are unlikely to be clear about how to go about getting what we want directly under this influence. We might feel rebellious when faced with others' plans, but also unclear about our own direction. We may be defensive and touchy, and resentments or frustrations can surface now. Watch for self-righteous, superior, or rebellious attitudes when a gentler approach would work best.

Jupiter opposition Saturn. There is a tug of war going on between our desire to explore life and to be free and our responsibilities and obligations. We might discover flaws in our big plans, and this can at first be frustrating, but later we are likely to realize that this dose of realism was necessary. Taking shortcuts won't work right now. We are encouraged, by life's circumstances, to slow down. When we think in big terms, or if we have the urge to expand, we confront obstacles or we are forced to face reality. Some re-structuring of our lives and of our business goals is now in order. We may be looking for new challenges, sometimes because we are forced to do so (because things are not going exactly as we had planned). We have a desire to grow and expand, but our attitude is tempered with some caution and feelings of restriction. There is no "easy fix" just now. It is best to breathe new life into old plans rather than to strike out with a new plan altogether. Take steps to grow, but don't overextend yourself at this time or you are bound to face frustrations.

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posted February 27, 2012 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jupiter trine Pluto. This is a strong influence for business, the law, and commerce. We might enjoy increased influence, faith, and insight now. The desire for more personal significance can lead us to give of ourselves or motivate us to more ambitiously pursue personal or professional goals. The ability to sway or persuade can be enhanced now. One of the most positive uses of this transit is taking steps to better ourselves. We might solve a problem that has been in existence for some time, or capitalize upon a resource that was previously hidden.

Jupiter sextile Chiron. This subtly uplifting time brings us the opportunity to free ourselves of restrictive and negative attitudes that have been undermining our progress. We are especially open to learning from others, and better able to help others to understand our point of view. We might open our minds to different perspectives and philosophies.

Saturn trine Neptune. Saturn's discipline can help bring structure or meaning to our dreams and ideals. At the same time, Neptune's acceptance and devotion can help bring new meaning to our work, traditions, and customs. It's easier to find meaning in our lives with this influence. We can feel as if our spiritual and material goals harmonize or at least don't get in each other's way. Circumstances and our own attitudes facilitate following through on our dreams or turning our visions and ideals into reality. Combining imagination and effort is successful now. There can be a sense that our dreams are realizable, and we can build stronger faith and acceptance.

Saturn trine Chiron?
Uranus square Pluto?
Neptune conjunct Chiron?

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posted February 28, 2012 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear appleberry, relax a bit , it is going to be a leap of faith at the end. If it is love it will shine through, regardless of all the aspects. I wish you a good time and loads of fun in each others company.

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Be reasonable, talk to your guardian angel

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posted March 12, 2012 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THIS IS THE ACTUAL FIRST MEETING CHART

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posted March 12, 2012 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So... it was all interesting...

GREAT FIRST MEETING!! AMAZING... like meeting a soul mate or great love from another lifetime... it was so beautiful and so comfortable... but things changed once the full moon hit... it was like a bolt of lightening and it was AWFUL! It ended everything... we were amicable but are not even speaking now... how bad is that!! I'm still confused about everything that happened...

On one hand though... not sure things are completely over in certain ways.

At the very least, being able to observe the astrological influence in conjunction with the actual events was a great learning experience.


I wasnt even thinking about Mercury Rx coming and I am sure that had something to do with it. Part of our problems were huge misunderstandings as well as problems with his travel/work... This was also a long distance meeting so I traveled to see him.

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