posted February 27, 2012 01:26 AM            

i am new to this forum and i am writing here with immense faith that i may get some positive reply for my problem.

i belong to a place where horoscope matching is given a lot of importance before we marry someone.

as in my case i am madly in love with a guy who loves me too. But the problem is everytime my parents take our horoscopes to different astrologers they just call it as a very bad match. Till now my parents have consulted nearly 7-8 astrologers, all told the same things as mentioned below

1) horoscope does not match, they are bad match.

2) either of one will die if they marry each other or some accidents may occur.

3) financial loss may occur.

4) the guy will leave me soon after the marriage and marry someone else.

5) we may end up in divorce.

6) and the most horrible of all THAT THE GUY DOESNT SEEM TO BE HONEST/LOYAL

7) they told that the composite shows that the boy is unfaithful to me and that he is just taking advantage of my love.

after hearing all these things my parents are not agreeing for the marriage.

we both just cant think of anyone else. it is kind of dieing situation to me. its really hard to digest that the guy is unfaithful to me!!!!

ours is a long distance relationship. we have been together for 3years 2months. we meet once every 4months and anytime in between if time permits.

i have tremendous faith in him and he too believes me a lot. but because of all these kind of predictions i am scared.

i enquired all his friends and colleagues. all of them told that he is madly in love with you and he can never do anything wrong to you. they also told me that if you doubt a person like him then you are heading to ruin your relationship for no reason!!!

now i am in a terrible situation. i dont understand whom to believe!!!!!! can anyone look into our composite and synastry charts and tell about our coupling?? i have no knowledge about the astrology. at the max i can post both of ours birth details.

him: male

dob: 23/oct/1988

time: 19:05 hrs

place: hassan, india

me: female

dob: 15/sep/1989

time: 11:10 hrs

place: mumbai, india.

looking forward for your replies.

thanking you

posted February 27, 2012 02:24 AM            

It is difficult for you to resist one another. You are charmed by one another and see much in each other that is beautiful, desirable, and attractive. Yours is a warm, affectionate relationship. Quite simply, you make one another happy!

Mars Mutually Aspects Uranus

posted February 27, 2012 02:34 AM            

When you are together, deep emotions and intense, compelling, irrational energies within both of you come into play. Definitely, if you are together for any length of time, you will both undergo an emotional transformation, a soul cleansing, for being together will dredge up all of your unfinished emotional business and feelings you may not even have believed yourselves capable of. This may feel like a "fatal attraction", one that is irresistable even if one or both of you wants to run the other way. A significant part of your purpose in coming together is to clear up and heal the past - old griefs, jealousies, wounds, and unresolved emotions, many of which you may have forgotten about until now! Certainly, no matter how long this relationship lasts, it will be a profound, intense one. Emotionally it may feel overwhelming at times. If any emotional manipulation, domination, or abuse occurs, you both need to step back and get a clear, objective third party to help you. At times you're both apt to feel that you're in over your heads. On the other hand, though you may go through extreme emotions, you can develop an incredibly close bond

shona's Sun Conjunct him's Venus

The warmth, appreciation, admiration and love between you is very strong, and you enjoy a high degree of harmony and congeniality in your relationship. You have much in common in terms of styles, tastes, and enjoyment of the same pleasures. In many ways shona embodies all that him finds attractive and beautiful, and him also makes a special effort to please shona. shona responds with much generosity, love, and loyalty. An excellent match

shona's Moon Opposite him's Venus

The love you feel for each other has a particularly sweet, romantic quality that draws the two of you together. You evoke the tender side of each other, and you simply love doing things for each other and giving gifts to one another. Your love for each other is very strong. Because you care for each other so much, you can also hurt each other's feelings rather easily.

shona's Moon Conjunct him's Mars

There is a dynamic, almost aggressive quality to your relationship. A good outlet for this energy is competitive sports and outdoor activities. You enjoy challenging each other and competing against one another. You also have the ability to accomplish a great deal together and make a dynamic working partnership - as long as you can refrain from arguing with each other. Sexual and physical attraction is also very strong and "hot". If your sexual relationship is not satisfactory, you begin arguing with each other; in this relationship, frustrated sexuality turns to anger. Assuming that there are no physical impediments, the potential for becoming pregnant is high, so it is essential to be scrupulous in the use of birth control methods if pregnancy is not desired.

shona's Moon Sextile him's Ascendant

posted February 27, 2012 02:36 AM            

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posted February 27, 2012 07:22 AM            

"Steve: Another way, for sure. I really don't think it's the astrologer's role to judge a relationship or predict its outcome. We're there to support it as best we can, that's all. A lot of interesting statistical work is being done currently about relationship astrology, and they're finding real patterns in terms of the kinds of relationships that work and that don't work. But people aren't statistics. With enough love, humility, and sanity, any astrological relationship can potentially be made precious to the two people."

"I agree. I think it's unethical and irresponsible for an astrologer to predict the success or the failure of a relationship. Our job is to enhance the couple's mutual understanding. "

posted February 27, 2012 02:52 PM            

I'm from india too.....
I can understand your problem...but dont worry, everything will be alright.Either things will go your way, if you really want it too, or you might yourself feel otherwise and choose to back off.
Regarding astrology, the guna matching score is reasonable, 23.
18 is the minimum requirement, so on that basis, there is no problem.
But since the astrologers are mentioning such problems it may be due to mangal (mars) and shani (saturn) afflictions.....

This is why arranged marriages are followed in india, to ensure minimum complications, if any. But, its definitely not perfect either. Since major problems can very well arise in those cases too.

See, since you know him and love him and believe that he very much wants the same, and you have decided to spend your lives together, i dont think astrology must come in the way.
Infact since you now know what the potential issues are, you can both do your best to safeguard yourselves from these problems, and hence come closer, if you are sincere and strong enough to overcome them.

And yes, planets dont need to rule us, its just that we are weak enough to let it effect us so deeply, and thats because most of our spiritual immune systems are pretty weak..

One thing is good. You are now aware of what you might have to face in the future, and yet, you want to go ahead.So definitely what ever comes your way will not be a sudden blow and shake you all up. With this you both have the potential to stand together and take evrything in your stride and fight every obstacle.
But, if this was an arranged marriage or you didnt know the guy properly or were not so passionate about getting married, these planetary influences would have really made life very hard for you and made you fall prey to it.
So as it is said, Love is the most powerful.

Hence, if you are truly convinced, do go ahead, convince your parents and give yourselves an oppurtunity to achieve what you truly believe in . Later on, if things do get tough, and you have to withdraw ( hopefully should'nt happen) , atleast you'll be proud that you made an attempt and did'nt give up just because of what third persons were saying based on heavenly bodies somewhere in space.

posted February 28, 2012 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by shona:
Dear RunAroundScreaming,
no hopes at all??? true love does not have meaning for itself?
everything depends on planetary position? i never thought that my birth day will be my biggest enemy

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How to post your chart… http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getannounce&ForumNumber=11&Start=2455736.99&End=2459389&Session=

Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – (astrology)

Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% (ONLY for synastry bi wheel) as the max orb between planets is 3'. Composite should be 85% orbs

when you get this SYNASTRY chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages. Scroll down to last page for the *aspect grid* THIS is very important as it seems to show more aspects than is visible on the bi wheel…

problem is uploading to photobucket (or imageshack) you have to change this from Abode format into a picture/jpeg format. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid in front of you on screen then, the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has been copied to clipboard.

Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart, press IMG and past link into thread.... all done

Lastly, by making the effort to post the correct charts AND aspect grid will ensure that you are serious in your enquiry and will guarantee (from me at least) a serious response……if you are simply here to get a freebie or are just curious but can’t be bothered to make the effort to post the correct charts then I won’t bother making an effort to delineate them. In this case I will simply refer to a website that offers Free interactive models (like astro.com, astrology3d.com and grupovenus.com) for your amusement…

posted February 28, 2012 01:00 PM            

i too was in a similar passionate relationship which was mentioned volatile...

trust me , such relationships are really glued together , but always have a tendency to actually turn volatile...

so what i mean to say is > go ahead with ur relationship....there is nothing to worry about as such... gve and take love...and stay happy...
but , make sure u always keep an eye open for the warning signs... so when ever u see some arguements or stuff , immediately try to make peace out...
so the conclusion is ... this can turn out to be a beautiful long lasting relation provided u always remain alert.

other thing i would liek to add is , though i know u two must be very eager to settle down sooner, since u r just 89 born , and we can easily wait in india till 25, i would suggest , u both give time to each other to develop even better understanding so that by the time u get married , there is nothing left to be cautioned about...

just remember that this will make ur relationship even mature and mature relations are fun and understanding at the same time.... so just cool down... stop worrying or even thinking about it... enjoy ur time together... keep on moving with the life as usual... u both make up a better future meanwhile , and after a year or two , get settled and married happily...

posted March 01, 2012 12:05 AM            

Actually, marriage of children is a lesson for the parents too. Parents learnt to love by letting go. Therefore, even if your marriage compatibility score is super high, parents will still worry.

Give your relationship more time and try to see if you two can manage more than just long-distance relationship. Some aspects of a person are hard to observe when you do not have chance to interact in daily life. It is easy to feel high and happy if you have a day or two together only every few months. You need to see the good and bad.

Ask yourself honestly can you really see any bad things in him. It is when one can see them and proactively accept them that the relationship is mature. Otherwise, the relationship still in the infatuation phase.

posted March 01, 2012 04:37 PM            

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Originally posted by shona:
Dear SaggiMC,
I would like to hear from you. I have posted the link you had asked for.

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rather than give a direct link to your account on photobucket, you need to learn how to post the chart directly into a post. Just click on IMG which copies the link and past into thread..... simples

posted March 01, 2012 04:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
"Robert Downey Jr, says, "I marvel at the accuracy of Steve's readings. He insists that nothing is so grave as to be beyond repair, and correspondingly that there is no rainbow that won't be evaporated by poor judgement in the now" http://www.fellowshipsspirit.org/astrology-and-reincarnation.php

"Steve: Another way, for sure. I really don't think it's the astrologer's role to judge a relationship or predict its outcome. We're there to support it as best we can, that's all. A lot of interesting statistical work is being done currently about relationship astrology, and they're finding real patterns in terms of the kinds of relationships that work and that don't work. But people aren't statistics. With enough love, humility, and sanity, any astrological relationship can potentially be made precious to the two people."

"I agree. I think it's unethical and irresponsible for an astrologer to predict the success or the failure of a relationship. Our job is to enhance the couple's mutual understanding. "

"[b]
Well, I really think we need to take that word "bad" out of our astrological vocabulary. There's no such thing as a bad aspect or a bad planet or a bad chart. There are challenging aspects, etc., and we can and do make both healthy and less than optimal responses to our aspects or charts, but an aspect itself is neither bad nor good. Similarly, there are no good or bad Synastries. As Steven says, with enough consciousness, love, humility, sanity and consistently responsible actions, any relationship can be made to work. The most astrologically "good" relationship in the world will founder if one or both parties are irresponsible, selfish, unconscious, immature and don't make any effort.

http://www.themetaarts.com/archives/200302/forrest.html [/B]

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I agree with you....

You could have the best synastry in the world, but unless you have good communications, are honest with each other about your needs, wishes and desires and 'both' of you want the same things...........then nothing will happen. It cannot make anyone change, or love you more. Some challenging squares, oppositions in synastry can be healthy, and may require one or both of you to grow in some way. Astrological natal charts cannot explain environmental factors, financial handicaps/ restraints and what position you hold in society, neither can it tell you if you are of ‘Royalty’ or beggar.

I am of the belief that people come in and out of our lives for a reason, either we have to teach them something or we have to learn something from them. There is Always an exchange, good or bad.

posted March 01, 2012 04:48 PM            

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When the Sun in one chart forms an aspect to another person's Venus

Conjunctions, sextiles, and trines between the Sun and Venus are helpful aspects in any relationship. They create a sense of harmony and offer some common interests to the partnership. The Sun person feels more loving and beautiful in the presence of the Venus person. The Venus person finds the Sun person quite charming and intriguing. The Venus person admires the Sun person in such a way that he or she is willing to, and happy to, please the Sun. There is a mutual attraction here that, on its own, is not as insistent or sexual as other indicators (such as Venus-Mars or Venus-Pluto), but it is pleasing and supportive. Acceptance and tolerance characterize the partnership. Perhaps the most apt keyword for this combination is contentment. On a financial level, unless debilitated, this combination suggests some financial "luck" as a couple, or at the very least an overall agreement on how to spend and save money.

In particular, the conjunction suggests that the individuals find much to like in each other. Little qualities in each other that might seem commonplace to other people take on grander, more romantic, and valuable proportions in both Venus and the Sun's eyes. It is easy for the Sun person to draw out affection and tolerance from the Venus person, unless either planet is seriously debilitated natally. The sextile is not as powerful or obvious a connection, but it generates a feeling of mutual respect. The people see value in one another--they're most certainly worth each other's time! The trine is probably the most fortunate of aspects between the Sun and Venus in synastry. The individuals truly value each other. The only potential pitfall with the trine is complacency and lack of challenge, although it is more than likely that there are challenges elsewhere in the comparison, and in most cases this interaspect helps support the relationship.

Note that the idealizing characteristic of Sun-Venus connections is more natural and based on reality than those attractions that involve Neptune. http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/sun_venus_aspects.html

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mercury conj mercury - you think and communicate in same 'sign' but obviously with different aspects.

karmic aspects involved Nodes and saturn.
Node is trine pluto
4x Saturn contacts.. these tend to bind for good OR bad.

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Challenging aspects: Moon square or opposition other person's Jupiter

Your nature is generous and optimistic but your inclination toward mood swings or going to extremes is a bit more difficult to balance with this aspect. Still, it is important that you do this. Poor judgment arising out of excessive optimism can get you into trouble or open you to being taken advantage of. Be careful whom you trust and, if something looks too good to be true, it probably isn't. Be joyful but not na�ve. Check all claims for accuracy and veracity and you will be much happier and keep more of your resources. Resist gambling or excessive boasting about your accomplishments. Be sure to balance the advantages offered you by giving back.

This energy between you expresses the endless possibilities available and encourages the freedom to express your emotions. At the same time, the aspect leans towards excessive expression. Whether an expression is excessive, over the top or fitting for a particular context, is something the two of you will have to decide. How much is too much and the resultant consequences, is the learning curve you will be testing together. This aspect requires that both of you determine how you are exceeding your boundaries and whether that�s a good thing or not. Emotions will go out of control from time to time particularly when one of you is overwhelmed with too much to handle. The intent of this aspect is to teach you better judgment and encourage wisdom from the many and varied experiences you actively seek. There will be times of poor judgment when you will discover that you failed to take an important element of a situation into consideration. Resist saying "yes" until you�ve evaluated the conditions or slept on the idea or proposition. Exaggeration and failing to keep promises will create problems for you and so will overoptimism without full knowledge of the facts. If you experience too much "bad luck", re-evaluate your choices and be sure to be generous wherever you can to maintain the balance between taking and giving in your lives together.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/moon_jupiter_aspects.html

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posted March 01, 2012 04:54 PM            

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When Mercury in your chart forms an aspect to another person's Neptune

When Mercury in your chart forms an aspect to your partner's Neptune, empathetic, spiritual, deceptive, or confusing communications figure strongly in your relationship. What type of interaction depends on the aspect that joins Mercury and Neptune, as well as the individuals involved.

When your Mercury forms a challenging aspect (square, opposition, or quincunx) to your partner's Neptune, you might complain that your partner is vague and indefinite in his or her communications with you. Although you could find each other quite intriguing at first, mistrust could develop over time, as Neptune's response to Mercury's pressing questions and statements could end up being deceptive or roundabout. Your Neptune partner could find your statements confining--he/she may perceive you to be too logical or rigid in your thinking. Your partner could attempt to inspire you, but may often feel misunderstood. Your partner might also react by trying to be what he/she perceives you want him/her to be. Misunderstandings could plague the relationship if you are not careful--this is a very challenging aspect in synastry. http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/mercury_neptune_aspects.html

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Moon opposite or square Saturn: This tends to be a rather harsh combination. The Saturn individual often neglects the needs of the Moon person making the Moon person feel unloved or unappreciated. The Saturn person often feels that the Moon person is not responsible enough or is careless. The Saturn person often finds themselves saying no to the Moon person. The Moon person may not realize it, but he/she often makes the Saturn individual feel insecure. http://www.astrology-x-files.com/synastry/moon.html

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When Mars squares, quincunxes, or opposes Saturn in synastry, the second scenario described above is more likely. At the beginning of the relationship, Saturn is often unfettered by Mars' energy, and may even find it attractive. With time, Saturn becomes annoyed with Mars' seeming lack of discipline and "childishness". How Saturn handles this will be very important. Unfortunately, very often the Saturn native uses subtle ways to undermine the Mars native's confidence. Saturn attempts to control Mars by limiting, blocking, and undermining Mars. Mars feels like he/she is always in the wrong in Saturn's eyes. When Mars laughs naturally and freely, Saturn stares at Mars with a superior look, as if Mars is being foolish. Saturn may criticize Mars for everything from the way Mars dresses to how he/she behaves with others. Saturn perceives Mars as over-confident and frivolous, gets annoyed at the drop of a hat, and lets Mars know, either with direct criticism or a general air of disapproval. For a while, Mars tries to win back Saturn's favor. After all, the very traits that Saturn seemed to love about Mars at the beginning of the relationship have turned into things to criticize. The nature of Mars is rather aggressive, however, so this period will likely be short-lived. Mars will then become angry at Saturn for all of Saturn's over-serious behavior and disapproval. Mars may rebel and flaunt themselves before Saturn, which in turn makes Saturn feel all the more need to inhibit and restrict Mars. Can you see where this is going? The relationship has turned into living hell. Any latent aggressive tendencies in either individual become larger than life. At the very least, verbal abusiveness can result. Physical aggression is sometimes the next step if these discordant energies get out of hand. Eventually, Mars may want to leave, which can anger Saturn even more. Effort (sometimes Herculean effort if either person is not open to working on the relationship) is required to understand these aspects. http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/mars_saturn_aspects.html

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Mars square Uranus
This comparative combination makes for a volatile and unstable relationship. You tend to encourage each other toward ill-considered, impulsive acts. Mutual endeavors never seem to go as planned. In general, you are somewhat of a threat to each other's authority and independence. Explosive outbursts of temper may characterize this combination. http://www.astrology-numerology.com/synastryaspects.html

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