posted March 01, 2012 12:45 AM            

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Seventh House: Here Chiron is especially hard on relationship issues, because this is the natural house of marriage. Enormous sensitivity to the partner’s needs and projections is the result, so a self-absorbed, selfish and moody lover is not the way to go here. This placement requires a partner who is both self-sufficient and loving. Unfortunately, because of the Seventh House tendency to outsource, we may simply end up courting the person who is least suited to us, simply out of a need to disown our own pain. Chiron very close to the Seventh House cusp makes an excellent counsellor, incidentally.

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Plus, you have a whole lot of planets progressed into your 12th, which from what I understand can create some feelings of loneliness. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong. It's late and I could be going off to lala land at this point. )

posted March 01, 2012 01:41 PM            

Within the mainstream are placidus/equal houses (the default on astro is placidus) only difference being some planets may move from one house to another thereby altering it's interpretation and it's 'only' with research will you find which /planets 'fit you' in which houses. So my advice, do two charts, research any planets that move houses and see which you identity with - simple

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your personal planets have progressed from Saggi into cappi and when they cross your Asc you will really come out of your shell.

your chart ruler Uranus stuck in 12th suggest you are rather private person and need time alone. Saturn in late first house, may knock your confidence a little

Age 4 anyone die or disappear? solar arc pluto conj MC.

I don't see you as a typical Saggi with mars conj Sun this would make you quite assertive and wilful. Mercury in saggi is in detriment. Venus in saggi is usually late for settling down as it quite enjoys playing the field...

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posted March 01, 2012 02:15 PM            

You may have a hard time trusting people and letting your guard down, because you fear you may be betrayed.

Does that sound true at all?

And I agree with Fondue, your progressed planets are in the 12th which means you're at a moment in your life when you are more introspective and isolated than usual. But you also have Uranus and Neptune in the 12th natally so that could play a part too.

Honestly, don't worry about it too much.
You're young, you'll have the time to have a boyfriend. And guys are usually quite..err immature at that age anyway so, don't let that make you miserable.

I know it's hard to be alone when people around are in relationships and are in love, but tell yourself that your time hasn't come yet, and that there's someone out there for you, too, you just have to be patient.

posted March 01, 2012 06:37 PM            

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your personal planets have progressed from Saggi into cappi and when they cross your Asc you will really come out of your shell.

your chart ruler Uranus stuck in 12th suggest you are rather private person and need time alone. Saturn in late first house, may knock your confidence a little

Age 4 anyone die or disappear? solar arc pluto conj MC.

I don't see you as a typical Saggi with mars conj Sun this would make you quite assertive and wilful. Mercury in saggi is in detriment. Venus in saggi is usually late for settling down as it quite enjoys playing the field...

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Having 6 planets in the 12th SUCKS.I'm pretty much invisible,I guess that's why no one 'wants me'. My personal planets will cross my ascendant when I'll reach my mid-thirties...Pfft great, more & more waiting.

posted March 01, 2012 06:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Saturn conjunct Moon square Pluto.

You may have a hard time trusting people and letting your guard down, because you fear you may be betrayed.

Does that sound true at all?

And I agree with Fondue, your progressed planets are in the 12th which means you're at a moment in your life when you are more introspective and isolated than usual. But you also have Uranus and Neptune in the 12th natally so that could play a part too.

Honestly, don't worry about it too much.
You're young, you'll have the time to have a boyfriend. And guys are usually quite..err immature at that age anyway so, don't let that make you miserable.

I know it's hard to be alone when people around are in relationships and are in love, but tell yourself that your time hasn't come yet, and that there's someone out there for you, too, you just have to be patient.

Good luck.

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posted March 02, 2012 07:18 AM            

Well, it's a time when you feel more in tune with your emotions, and you may want to become more spiritual and find new ways of dealing with your emotional processes. You may also explore your subconscious responses to events and it may be a good time to understand how you "work". Now is a quiet time (internally, you still may have crazy events happening outside of yourself) to reflect on yourself.

You may have to deal with old subconscious mechanisms that no longer work and that you have to get rid of.

It's a bit like experiencing an internal transformation, some things inside of you have to be changed, and now is the time.
After these changes occur, be it your thoughts, behaviour, etc, you will be ready to "emerge", that's when your planets will move to the 1st.

posted March 02, 2012 05:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:

Do you have vivid dreams?
Usually strong 12th house denotes a hightened sensitivity to all things subconscious, dreams, repressed feelings, psychic abilites, etc.

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posted March 03, 2012 02:43 PM            

Chiron links http://www.aquarianage.org/west/planets/ch-nat01.html http://www.astrotherapy.eu/Chiron.htm http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/chiron21.5.html http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/chiron.html http://www.martinlass.com/chiron.htm http://www.zanestein.com/chiron_a.htm http://www.pathwaytoascension.com/astrology/lesson6.html
http://books.google.com/books?id=4rnvfxrc4LwC&pg=PT1&dq=astrology+chiron&lr=lang_en&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_brr=0&ei=wMfUSoj-HI6MNdHKzYcO# v=onepage&q=astrology%20chiron&f=false

posted March 03, 2012 02:46 PM            

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Yup this describes me! Thanks for the advice.Being patient is SO hard it gets frustrating at times to wait for everything. Is there anything positive about having a stellium in the 12th house?I know that the 12th & 8th house get a bad reptutation.My cousin has a stellium of progressed planets in the 8th house & he is just a mess right now.

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Basic astrology forum -- How to Learn Secondary Progressions http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000686.html

you DO however, have a stellium in saggi in 11th HOUSE

stelliums in houses
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080418162943AA1TzLE http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/stellium_grandquintile.shtml http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33102 http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/a-few-last-insights-into-stelliums-from-readers/

posted March 03, 2012 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by MillyX:
Yes,lately I have been having really weird dreams. I think it's because of my Neptune conjunct moon transit.Sadly,I don't think that my dreams mean anything.I might dream of a person & see them the next day, but I think it's only a coincidence.I'm not psychic,I can't trust my 'intuition'. I don't even know if I have one. But I have noticed that I am a very empathetic person with a lot of compassion & people say that I'm too nice.Very 12th house.
They say that the 12th house is the house of 'self-undoing'. What exactly does that mean?

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research the link I posted re: house meanings.

Basic astrology forum, 12th house planets http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000666.html
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posted March 03, 2012 02:57 PM            

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Yup this describes me! Thanks for the advice.Being patient is SO hard it gets frustrating at times to wait for everything. Is there anything positive about having a stellium in the 12th house?I know that the 12th & 8th house get a bad reptutation.My cousin has a stellium of progressed planets in the 8th house & he is just a mess right now.

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these two houses are the *psychic houses* and water waters, there is nothing wrong with ANY house.

Saturn square Pluto
"Saturn square Pluto can indicate self-will and persistence to the point of ruthlessness. There is often exposure to some very difficult emotional experiences, and these may set up a defensive stance that makes the ability to forgive and forget hard to maintain. People with this aspect have the ability to perform difficult work and possess great commitment. Self-restraint can be almost obsessive at times and when motivated by a challenge, their drive and endurance is remarkable." http://www.skyscript.co.uk/saturnaspects.html#saspl

This adds an ability to be very hard working and practical, but taken to extremes can be ruthless.

Moon conj saturn shows you are well able to endure financial hardships and are slow cautious when expressing emotions.

your Saturn is also a singleton

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Now North Node conj MC is significant as your Lessons in this lifetime are very much connected to career and what you will eventually become known for. It suggests links to Saggi matters and 9th house like philosophy, religion, travel, higher education. South Node in gemini needs to learn not to fritter energies away on to many interests. Learning not to get bored to easily or quickly

North Node http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/transiting_lunar_nodes.shtml http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrology-articles/north-node-karma.php http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/moon_nodes.htm http://northnodeastrology.blogspot.com/search/label/North%20Node%20and%20the%20Quest%20for%20the%20Authentic%20Self http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/nodes http://astrologyforthesoul.com/monnodzpolari.html