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Dreaming111
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posted March 02, 2012 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would you say regarding the sexual nature of this person? Straight, bi, gay, other?

From what he tells me is he's a virgin waiting to be with his wife.
And yet, he's really sexual in the sense his drive and urges are burning.

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posted March 03, 2012 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the beginning of Liz Greene's (famous prolific author on astrology), “Astrology for Lover's” book there is a good chapter on What astrology can and can't do.
“Astrology is baffling because it works. What it's not is a way of foretelling the future, or of determining whether that tall dark stranger will turn up next week. To put it briefly the horoscope is a map of the psyche of the individual. it's a kind of blueprint, a seed plan, a model of the energies and drives which make up a person. Because it's calculated precisely for time and place, it's unique, unlike the sun sign column. Even identical twins are born at least four minutes apart, and in four minutes the picture has shifted.”

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Astrology can be used to help you in many ways. It can reveal damaging behavioral patterns or forewarn you of upcoming challenges. It can help you pinpoint latent talents you may possess and provide you with specific hints on how to best develop them. Astrology can also point out expansive, rewarding trends that are coming up and assist you in figuring out how to take advantage of them before they fade. Finally, astrology is an excellent means to determine the perfect timing for certain actions.

The beauty of astrology is that it will help you to always be in complete control of your life. Astrology is not fortune telling: but it is a recognition that we have free will. We know we are not controlled by the planets, but the planets do create a certain atmospheres of constriction or ease, that keeps us on our toes. Alas, you cannot blame the planets and say, for example, Saturn made me do it! The few times I have said this to an audience, most people laugh it does sound funny.

“The planets work to help us help ourselves. By applying pressure, planets help us to overcome inertia. At other times, they help us to see unproductive or even self-destructive behavior that we may have never noticed before but that we can fix. Astrologers believe we must be accountable for our actions and to recognize that we do have choices. The study of astrology will help you sort out all your options and to act at the proper time. http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/whatastrologycandoforyou.html


I've just finished a series of tutorials for learning astrology...

In Astrology 2.0 forum, beginners learning astrology http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212463.html

in Astrology 2.0 forum, What’s next for learning (intermediate) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212464.html

In Astrology 2.0 what’s next for learning (advanced) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212465.html

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SaggiMC
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posted March 03, 2012 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't see this guy as a typical Leo, as his chart ruler sun is stuck in 12th, this shows someone who is very private and needs time along...

In fact the whole chart seems rather subjective and with 5out of 10 planets in the first quadrant, again suggests he 'more concerned' with his inner life, rather than being out there...

I use Equal House system (where each cusp is same as Ascendant) and am a modern astrologer. Lots of newcomers come into Astrology/forums and get a free chart from astro and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few others if you wish to experiment…..

Within the mainstream are placidus/equal houses (the default on astro is placidus) only difference being some planets may move from one house to another thereby altering it's interpretation and it's 'only' with research will you find which /planets 'fit you' in which houses. So my advice, do two charts, research any planets that move houses and see which you identity with - simple

Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAwGtMWl4z4

Ruler of the Eighth House in the Fifth House

"Your dreams can manifest as creative abilities. A major transformation towards your approach to life can be stimulated by your children or children in general. You have intense feelings about love and you could have a deeply intimate bonding experience with a lover." http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr8

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posted March 03, 2012 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
now mars square pluto needs careful explaining as it really needs to be doing something physical, like sports, martial arts, bungjee jumping the riskier the better as it can attract violence, but also give it out to...

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Mars square or opposition Pluto
Mars square Pluto
You have a tendency to impose your will upon others, which can cause severe problems for yourself when they react in self-defense. You have a hair-trigger temper and may even resort to verbal or physical abuse when upset. Learning to react to unpleasant circumstances with your intellect rather than your emotions comes with maturity.

It is all too easy for you to find something negative about a situation. Avoid issuing ultimatums when you meet an obstacle. Instead, find a way to convince others to work with you of their own free will. Ordinary life often seems drab and uninteresting to you and you must have something that stirs your imagination, some vision or ideal or dream to motivate you. You have a strong urge to act out your fantasies or to live your dream, and you will DO things that others only talk about or dream about. Artistic creation, drama, or other areas in which you can express yourself imaginatively are excellent for you.

You do not easily tolerate a dominating attitude in others. You have a healthy respect for power and authority, but only if it is handled fairly.

This aspect gives you a somewhat Scorpionic attitude toward your lovers, and it can modify the traits associated with the sign of your Mars considerably. In other words, there is a distinct possessive and demanding streak in your sexual nature. Your approach to love and sex can be quite intense at times. Your sexual desire nature is a very strong one, and you may even use sex as a bargaining chip in your relationships in order to achieve your goals. More likely, however, is a very focused and intense sexual nature. This also adds a very magnetic quality to your appeal. When a woman finds you attractive, it can transform into a near obsession! Your aura is strong and somewhat mysterious. You tend to come across as stronger than you intend. In fact, some people are intimidated by you, and you may not understand why this is so. When you want something (or someone!) you are very determined. For you, it can be "all or nothing". When you are finished with something, you leave it behind you and there is no going back. You want a deep, soulful attachment on a sexual level. In your love life you do not take rejection well. You fear betrayal and abandonment, and this can skew your perception of your lover. You have a highly developed sex drive, but you must learn to rein in your aggressiveness in this area. Power struggles and control issues may surface often in your relationships.

You perceive the cruel edge in people, and understand its source. As you deal with your own ruthlessness, you learn how to respond to it in others without risking your physical well-being. Self-confidence develops out of self-control in your interaction with others http://cafeastrology.com/natal/marsplutoaspects.html


http://www.celestialperspective.com/library/marspluto-aspectswhat-determines-theyre
mars/Pluto aspects by Donna Cunningham

moon conjunct pluto can also be emotionally obsessive, controlling, manipulative, but also conj saturn, this should help and be a little more reserved, but it could see-saw.

"Moon conjunct Pluto
The conjunction of the Moon and Pluto produces an intense romantic nature. You seek relationships with those who feel as deeply and as tenaciously as you do. You are a very possessive and demanding person, rarely impulsive or casual. It's hard to satisfy your emotional needs for the perfect relationship because you are so idealistic and demanding. These traits often extend to friendships, as well. Because of this your friends are few but extremely close. You are a hard person to live with because you require so much of those to whom you are near. You can be tyrannical and alienating, at times." http://www.skyscript.co.uk/moonaspects.html#mocpl

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Dreaming111
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posted March 10, 2012 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi SaggiMC!

I'm always so impressed with you.

Yes, he finds peace in being alone a lot.
Yes, he's athletic and gets kinda depressed if he can't workout. Also he tosses pillows and things during games lol. As a child he used to goof around and do crazy things but nothing that an ordinary child would not do. He's never hit a person.

Actually he's nonconfrontational. He likes to just walk away.

I was kinda curious to understand how on the one hand he's a choosen virgin but on the other hand he's so out there sexually. I can't seem to put the two together. It honestly worries me that some transit will come alone if we should get married and that he would tell me that he's gay, gets with men secretively, or wants to be with men. Then the second worry is if he can, as he is now, control his urges or if during a transit or something he would actually fall weak to those urges and do something outside marriage.

Those are the basic worries I have.

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Dreaming111
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posted March 10, 2012 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi SaggiMC!

I'm always so impressed with you.

Yes, he finds peace in being alone a lot.
Yes, he's athletic and gets kinda depressed if he can't workout. Also he tosses pillows and things during games lol. As a child he used to goof around and do crazy things but nothing that an ordinary child would not do. He's never hit a person.

Actually he's nonconfrontational. He likes to just walk away.

I was kinda curious to understand how on the one hand he's a choosen virgin but on the other hand he's so out there sexually. I can't seem to put the two together. It honestly worries me that some transit will come alone if we should get married and that he would tell me that he's gay, gets with men secretively, or wants to be with men. Then the second worry is if he can, as he is now, control his urges or if during a transit or something he would actually fall weak to those urges and do something outside marriage.

Those are the basic worries I have.

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posted March 10, 2012 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Hi SaggiMC!

I'm always so impressed with you.

Yes, he finds peace in being alone a lot.
Yes, he's athletic and gets kinda depressed if he can't workout. Also he tosses pillows and things during games lol. As a child he used to goof around and do crazy things but nothing that an ordinary child would not do. He's never hit a person.

Actually he's nonconfrontational. He likes to just walk away.

I was kinda curious to understand how on the one hand he's a choosen virgin but on the other hand he's so out there sexually. I can't seem to put the two together. It honestly worries me that some transit will come alone if we should get married and that he would tell me that he's gay, gets with men secretively, or wants to be with men. Then the second worry is if he can, as he is now, control his urges or if during a transit or something he would actually fall weak to those urges and do something outside marriage.

Those are the basic worries I have.


If you are in a relationship with him you should post a synastry bi wheel..

Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – (astrology)

Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% (ONLY for synastry bi wheel) as the max orb between planets is 3'. Composite should be 85% orbs

when you get this SYNASTRY chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages. Scroll down to last page for the *aspect grid* THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AS IT SEEMS TO SHOW MORE ASPECTS THAN IS VISIBLE ON THE BI WHEEL…

problem is uploading to photobucket (or imageshack) you have to change this from Abode format into a picture/jpeg format. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid in front of you on screen then, the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has been copied to clipboard.

Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart, press IMG and past link into thread.... all done

his natal mars in 12th could suggest someone bullied in childhood, moon squar mars suggests a bossy mother
Basic astrology forum, 12th house planets http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000666.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….


mars is also a singleton.
Basic astrology forum, retrogrades,Unaspected & Singletons http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Basic+Astrology&number=12&DaysPrune=
To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….

mercury square neptune can tells porkies, I have a saying for this one, "There's many a slip between cup and lip." this aspect can be good for creative writing, strong imagination, reading too much between the lines, going out and coming in.

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posted March 10, 2012 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey again you are correct. As a child he was bullied by his brother and father. He does have a bossy mom lol....

mercury square neptune can tells porkies, I have a saying for this one, "There's many a slip between cup and lip." this aspect can be good for creative writing, strong imagination, reading too much between the lines, going out and coming in.


Yes he does fib to prevent anyone from getting upset. He basically hates arguments and hates being told what to do. I guess coming from an environment that restricted him so much, he can tell good lies.

That's neve been good for me, as I hate lies and usually catch him.

Yes, again he's a creative person. He loves philosophy, art, poetry etc.

I didn't understand the last part about mars and neptune: "going out and coming in"

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posted March 11, 2012 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 11, 2012 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 11, 2012 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh I read it incorrectly. He does have mercury square neptune....
That's horrible.

I found this: http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/abe89a71-84ab-4fc6-9260-9041edb82fe1

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posted March 11, 2012 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Ugh I read it incorrectly. He does have mercury square neptune....
That's horrible.

I found this: http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/abe89a71-84ab-4fc6-9260-9041edb82fe1



hmmm nice find, that's a keeper

what you need to remember is ORBS this is 9' approaching, mercury being the quicker moving planet. Normally I would not go above 8' for this aspect, so he/you quite poss may not identify with the meanings...

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Mercury square or opposition Neptune
You might have problems concentrating because your mind is often wandering. Your thinking is exceptionally imaginative, intuitive, and creative. Stretching the truth, whether done consciously or not (or a bit of both), is associated with this position. Bored with anything dull, routine, or lifeless, you often dramatize or connect higher meaning to ordinary events and situations. You are often vague in your communications, purposefully or not, as you resist being pinned down to any one opinion or stance. This is partly due to your ability to see so many different points of view and perspectives. Logical, detail-oriented work and studies are not designed for your way of thinking and learning. Creative presentations, ripe with images and imagery, are what grab your attention and interest. Your style of communication, or possibly thinking, is often self-defeating, and you should consciously avoid a tendency to give up on projects or plans before they even get off the ground. Planning ahead is not a preference, as you prefer to move along running on the fuel of inspiration and intuition.

Your style of communication may be unusual, perhaps with many pauses or digressions. You may be deliberately vague or unintentionally so, depending on your nature. Some of you are great story tellers.

Sample interpretation from the Merlin report -- Your mind is highly imaginative and creative and you possess dramatic, artistic, or musical abilities. As a child, you enjoyed daydreaming, fantasizing, pretending, and probably lived in "your own little world" a good deal. You perceive things which are not obvious to other people and you have an uncanny ability to "read" people and situations without being told anything about them. However, you must learn to discriminate between a true psychic perception and your imagination. Learning to discipline and focus your mind is necessary if you wish to use all of your creative potential. Otherwise, you could be simply a dreamer.

Communication with others is difficult for you because you often find words frustrating and inadequate to express your experiences and perceptions. Also, you may purposefully mystify or deceive others. http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/mercuryneptuneaspects.html


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posted March 12, 2012 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So as far as his sexuality goes...what do you think? Is he gay or bi or have a tendency to be?

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posted March 12, 2012 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great info Saggi
Thank you!

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posted March 14, 2012 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, thanks SaggiMC for all your information.

So does anyone know whether he's like;y to be bi or gay? I care for him a lot but I don't want to be strung along as his emotional support and love him in a romantic way if he doesn't really want to be with a girl. I'll be his support for sure but I'd rather know what I'm dealing with here.

I have my reasons for asking this question. I have discussed it with him and he gives me strange answers. Anyway, if someone can save me from this dilemma, please do. : ( I'd greatly appreciate it.


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