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moonpie
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posted March 11, 2012 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonpie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everything went explosive on the 8th of March, family violence, police were called, I almost checked into a hotel. Im still riding the rough seas and for the first time I seriously contemplated suicide. I also got an indication that my boss will let go of me due to my performance. I have been upset and still am. Are things going to get better? Usually when I go through this, they dont last this long and I get up on my feet again but this time, it seems I will never recover

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posted March 11, 2012 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry sweetie, i wish i could help but i dont know how to do transits at all :/


But i hope it gets better for you and of course there is nothing in the world that should make you contemplate suicide. Everything gets better with time, if you just stick through things. Is it possible for you to get a job and move out with a few roommates? How old are you?

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posted March 12, 2012 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for uranusingleton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope you do not contemplate suicide anymore. I love Mary she helped me once when I was contemplating it and she would help you too if you ask her, she's the Virgin Mary and she is considered our Spiritual Mother. So I pray you pray to her for healing. You are loved by God and love yourself. Sometimes thats hard to understand believe I go through it but I know it in my mind which is good but my heart wavers. So please redirect your thoughts to positivity and you will be better. And Im sorry for your family. Try and find positive people.

Hail Mary full of grace the Lord is with thee blessed are you among women and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus holy Mary mother of God pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.

You may pray this prayer. And ask Jesus to come to your life. I don't care what anyone else says I care about you and He is a healer and Savior

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posted March 13, 2012 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the beginning of Liz Greene's (famous prolific author on astrology), “Astrology for Lover's” book there is a good chapter on What astrology can and can't do.
“Astrology is baffling because it works. What it's not is a way of foretelling the future, or of determining whether that tall dark stranger will turn up next week. To put it briefly the horoscope is a map of the psyche of the individual. it's a kind of blueprint, a seed plan, a model of the energies and drives which make up a person. Because it's calculated precisely for time and place, it's unique, unlike the sun sign column. Even identical twins are born at least four minutes apart, and in four minutes the picture has shifted.”

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Astrology can be used to help you in many ways. It can reveal damaging behavioral patterns or forewarn you of upcoming challenges. It can help you pinpoint latent talents you may possess and provide you with specific hints on how to best develop them. Astrology can also point out expansive, rewarding trends that are coming up and assist you in figuring out how to take advantage of them before they fade. Finally, astrology is an excellent means to determine the perfect timing for certain actions.

The beauty of astrology is that it will help you to always be in complete control of your life. Astrology is not fortune telling: but it is a recognition that we have free will. We know we are not controlled by the planets, but the planets do create a certain atmospheres of constriction or ease, that keeps us on our toes. Alas, you cannot blame the planets and say, for example, Saturn made me do it! The few times I have said this to an audience, most people laugh it does sound funny.

“The planets work to help us help ourselves. By applying pressure, planets help us to overcome inertia. At other times, they help us to see unproductive or even self-destructive behavior that we may have never noticed before but that we can fix. Astrologers believe we must be accountable for our actions and to recognize that we do have choices. The study of astrology will help you sort out all your options and to act at the proper time. http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/whatastrologycandoforyou.html



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posted March 13, 2012 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you can get a free six month transit forecast from astro.com...

I notice T Pluto is sextiling your sun which should be good

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Pluto transits sextile Sun

You could receive some help in the form of a real drive towards realizing your inner self and your life ambitions. You are able to cut through a lot that is unessential and get on with the real work. Also, a special relationship with an authority figure or teacher.

Subtle but profound changes within you will have a tremendous effect upon your relationships, quite possibly totally altering significant relationships in your life. A new spirit of self-respect, personal empowerment, and deeper honesty arises. It is a time of births and deaths, (literally as well as metaphorically), and these will have a powerful impact upon you and your decisions. Group work is very powerful and positive for you now, especially if the focus is on conscious awareness, deeper learning, healing, or combining energies to create positive changes in the collective (media, education system, etc.).

Positive Potentials:

A deepening of all your relationships, an "alchemical" relationship in which both parties are transformed by the blending and sharing of there energies, old habits and attitudes shed more readily which opens you to new life and more aliveness.

Negative Potentials:

If you are a very malleable and impressionable person, you could get overpowered or "swept away" by another person or group of stronger individuals. Even so, you are likely to learn much about your own strengths.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/plutotransits.html



T Jupiter is also sextiling your sun, which is an easy transit

What I have seen is your mars quincunx Uranus aspect, which suggest you could intermittently suffer from painful health issues, could be triggered by T Pluto, but this is going to be a long transit, and it's only approaching.

your prog sun has just changed signs into Aries for it's next 30years stay, this may well have found you becoming more 'firey'

mars quincunx Neptune
This suggests to me you are drawn to 'questionable relationships' with a tendency to dismiss or overlook pertinent factors as insignificant until you realise it's too late and perhaps you should have paid more attention.

"Your idealism and inflated expectations of others and life can lead you into very frustrating circumstances where you feel emotionally and physically drained. Your energy and emotions strengthen as you learn how and where to be involved in other people's projects. You have difficulty learning realistic boundaries with others and realistic limits as to what you can expect from yourself. Artistic expression can help give form to your humanitarian temperament." http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

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SaggiMC
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posted March 13, 2012 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars quincunx Uranus, may suffer from sudden and intermittent painful things.
“you function with great drive (mars) and originality (uranus), but you always seem to be under some pressure. Perhaps you are trying to prove something to yourself and others.. Learn to distinguish responsibility from abuse. It may be that your deep concern for your future drives you to do everything immediately. There is more time than you know, so first establish your priorities, and then you CAN accomplish all you want. Make sure that others do not make demands of you that are physically impossible or perhaps unnecessary. Do not be a patsy for other people's incompetence”
From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Mars Quincunx Uranus
You want something different than the rest of society and this in itself is neutral. Your frustrations can arise because your manner of expression of your unique desires cuts against the grain of what other people expect from you and your methods don't achieve your goals. Slow down - your intensity and drive can leave you drained without getting you closer to your goals. Only when you are able to hold to a course of action for a long time are you able to get results. Your attempt at "quick wins" always requires you to start over. http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/q...retations.html

Mercury Quincunx Saturn
“Putting your life in order will require exercising positive judgment as to how to get the large projects you envision to manifest. The sheer scope of your goals in life can require more effort than is immediately obvious. Hard work can take its toll on your health. Correct partitioning of big ideas into segments that are achievable one at a time and exacting uses of your time is the way to move forward while maintaining inner poise and outer health.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

Maybe the saturnian responsibilities and hard work are at odds with your mental state and communications. Once you serve others in such 12th house areas like humanitarian, charitable or welfare projects then you theoretically should be free from harassment that can come with this aspect.

Moon Quincunx Saturn
“Your assumptions about life and yourself are colored by your early childhood experience of inconsistency and uncertainty about your parents' roles. They seem to have been reversed. This has left you uncertain as to what to do or what you are capable of in life. As you become more certain as to your true responsibilities in life, your vision clears as to what you can accomplish. This is also the key to becoming more productive. Through accomplishment you can become more knowledgeable as to how your habits and procedures affect the life circumstances in which you find yourself.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

“indicates an undercurrent of guilt in your emotional reactions to people. You seem uneasy until you can find some way to demonstrate that you sincerely care for them. It would seem that in your early conditioning your parents made you feel that others had the right to exploit you and make you feel inferior to them. As an adult, you can change this. What you truly owe is the obligation to yourself to get rid of the burden of submission to others. Do not let others intimidate you by questioning your emotions toward them.”
From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Sometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings.

Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesis
What tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...

perhaps you should post the synastry bi wheel
Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
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Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% (ONLY for synastry bi wheel) as the max orb between planets is 3'. Composite should be 85% orbs. Please also include, vertex, juno and POF (part of fortune)

when you get this SYNASTRY chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages. Scroll down to last page for the *aspect grid* THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AS IT SEEMS TO SHOW MORE ASPECTS THAN IS VISIBLE ON THE BI WHEEL…

problem is uploading to photobucket (or imageshack) you have to change this from Abode format into a picture/jpeg format. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid in front of you on screen then, the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has been copied to clipboard.

Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart, press IMG and past link into thread.... all done

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Ami Anne
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posted March 13, 2012 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sorry Moonpie Sweetheart!

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posted March 13, 2012 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I could read it but I'd need the solar arcs + natal + progressed for 8 March.

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moonpie
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posted March 14, 2012 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonpie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay Lonake, thanks for the offer. Things are slowly settling but still in "danger". The next dew weeks will either make or break me.

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moonpie
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posted March 14, 2012 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonpie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Here it is thanks. Thanks Ami Anne.

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posted March 15, 2012 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK So natally you are somewhat feisty it seems, Sun/Merc sq Mars. Sun as they say can also relate to the father so if he was involved in the problem I can see that here with a mutable grand cross:
n.Sun 9/Merc 7/t.Chiron 9 in Pisces opp
t.Mars 11 Virgo/sa.ASC 9 Virgo/p.ASC 13 Virgo, sq to
n.Mars 13 Gem opp
sa.Pluto 11 Sag/t.Node 8 Sag.

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moonpie
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posted March 15, 2012 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonpie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just read only your first 3 sentences and yes..my father was quite heavily involved.

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SaggiMC
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posted March 15, 2012 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
please post the *ASPECT GRID* for solar arcs and progressions..

post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages. Scroll down to last page for the *ASPECT GRID* THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AS IT SEEMS TO SHOW MORE ASPECTS THAN IS VISIBLE ON THE BI WHEEL…

problem is uploading to photobucket (or imageshack) you have to change this from Abode format into a picture/jpeg format. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid in front of you on screen then, the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has been copied to clipboard.

Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart, press IMG and past link into thread.... all done

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posted March 15, 2012 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Solar arc Uranus is 1' off natal saturn, so the effect should have passed.

Basic astrology forum, learn solar arcs http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000665.html
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posted March 15, 2012 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by moonpie:
I just read only your first 3 sentences and yes..my father was quite heavily involved.

Yea, looks like it.

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posted March 15, 2012 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I took was one look Chiron is opposing your Moon right now.

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