posted March 17, 2012 02:37 PM            

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I've got two singletons that are in mutual reception. My chart ruler is Jupiter Rx in Aqua which sextiles Uranus Rx conj ASC in Sag. They are my only Air and Fire planets. Is it possible that one singleton would be felt more strongly than the other? Or, since they're in mutual reception, do they work in concert funneling the energy of my chart?

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posted March 17, 2012 05:33 PM            

please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages. Scroll down to last page for the *ASPECT GRID* THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AS IT SEEMS TO SHOW MORE ASPECTS THAN IS VISIBLE ON THE BI WHEEL…

problem is uploading to photobucket (or imageshack) you have to change this from Abode format into a picture/jpeg format. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid in front of you on screen then, the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has been copied to clipboard.

Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart, press IMG and past link into thread.... all done

I see the mutual reception with uranus and jupiter.I als note jupiter is apex for common T Square to..

I take it you have followed the links in basic forum in particular http://www.astrologyclub.org

posted March 17, 2012 05:39 PM            

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I've got two singletons that are in mutual reception. My chart ruler is Jupiter Rx in Aqua which sextiles Uranus Rx conj ASC in Sag. They are my only Air and Fire planets. Is it possible that one singleton would be felt more strongly than the other? Or, since they're in mutual reception, do they work in concert funneling the energy of my chart?

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OK so I don't see a lack of air as you have 4 planets in AIR houses..
You also have Fire Asc and Neptune 1st and moonn 9th and pluto 11th (Equal house) so I dont' see a lack of fire eithter...

Jupiter retro (I have this) gives less need to be out socialising and more content internally and happy to analyse and internalise things relating to faith, religion, spiritual matters.

In Equal Jupiter is conj 3rd house and considered more effective in 3rd going anti clockwise..

My gut instinct would be Uranus conj Asc being Angular therefore more visible.

Houses: angular houses 1/7 4/10 the energies of planets placed here are obvious cos it's your 'shop window' visible for everyone to see. Next the succeedent houses 2/8 & 5/11 the energies in these houses are not in shop window the are in the shop, but stood behind the counter, ready to come out when needed. Lastly, cadent houses 6/12 & 3/9 these houses/planets are not in shop window or stood behind the counter, they are in the back storeroom and only come out when 'triggered' or an emergency and much harder to recognise and access...

posted March 17, 2012 05:53 PM            

Sun 23N25 -- Mercury 23N50 -- Mars 24N01

Jupiter 16S37 -- Saturn 16S07

Uranus 22S39 -- Neptune 22S15

I'm posting the declinations in case I screwed something up:

posted March 17, 2012 05:59 PM            

Cradle configuration
two x talent triangles or minor grand trines, the outer two linked by an opposition. It seems to be a mixed blessing, with potential but to due them being easy aspects can lack the follow through to achieve. In male chats can lean towards extrovert, and in female charts passive, introvert qualities there is a need to be careful not to scatter energies without achieving much.

“The Cradle configuration has two Wedge figures in it, providing two different ways to potentially escape from the stress - or transform it into creativity”. http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/cradle_configuration.html
http://www.astrotheme.com/files/figu...ed-aspects.php http://cafeastrology.com/articles/aspectpatterns.html
Cafeastrology calls this aspect Trapeze, which with my own research is not, but something different. The glossary below explains the differences. http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/astrology/I-so-TOTALLY-have-a-Cradle-2271823.asp http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1554 http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology...e_cradle.shtml

“The apex planet can be a source of great creativity that channels the stress into positive, constructive activity, although the stress of the opposition may or may not finally be resolved. The Cradle has two Wedge figures in it, providing two different ways to potentially escape from the stress — or transform it into creativity. However, with so much opportunity to avoid problems, the temptation to take the easy way out is very strong. As a result, with a Cradle configuration in their chart may find it very difficult to resolve/heal the conflicts in their life represented by the opposition” http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/glossary/glossary_bc.htm
This last link is the best information available on this aspect

“The more the person can learn to face and resolve the conflict of the opposition, the more they will be able to use the talents and natural abilities in the Cradle in ways that are healthy, constructive and healing. On the other hand, the avoidance of problems can generate some pretty impressive creative ability, in the broadest sense of the word - not just artistic but any innovative, original or imaginative approach to the obstacles and challenges of life.” http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/glossary/glossary_bc.htm

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posted March 17, 2012 06:00 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:

My gut instinct would be Uranus conj Asc being Angular therefore more visible.

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posted March 17, 2012 06:02 PM            

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Ruler of the First House in the Second House

You have a strong desire to accumulate possessions and earning your own money is important to you. What you have, materially speaking, influences your outlook on life. Creating your own sense of liberty and freedom largely depends on how well you handle your financial security issues.

Ruler of the First House in the Third House

You're curious about life and learning is important to you. You want to get your ideas noticed and communication is important to you.
There is a strong need to feel well integrated into your immediate community and you may make many short local trips.
You tend to have a lot of interest in your siblings if you have them and you identify strongly with close relatives in general.

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posted March 17, 2012 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
I have just noticed you have a cradel configuration.... which I have to

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posted March 17, 2012 06:04 PM            

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Ruler of the Third House in the First House

You enjoy sharing whatever is going on in your life with others and one of the primary ways that you relate to people is by using your conversational skills to the utmost. Childhood experiences, especially those that happened during your early school years, could have significantly shaped your outlook on life. Other important figures may have included close relatives, particularly a brother or sister.
Ruler of the Third House in the Twelfth House

You keep many of your thoughts to yourself and you are quite capable of keeping a secret, which is something other people can appreciate. It's natural for you to understand more abstract spiritual concepts that go beyond traditional orthodox boundaries.
You often speak from the subconscious mind without even realizing it and past life memories may filter through into your conscious mind. You can develop your intuition to a high degree. There could have been unclear circumstances surrounding a brother/sister or a near relative. Or, you may simply have a strong past life connection with them. http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr3

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posted March 17, 2012 06:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Fondue Knight:
That makes sense. So, even though Uranus is closely conjunct the ASC, is the fact that it is in the 12th weaken it at all? Or is it close enough to be interpreted like a first house planet?

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anything within 5' of house cusp is said to be interpreted in next house along going anti clockwise.

planets in houses http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/planetsinhouses.php
Houses/signs are like the backdrop of a stage/theatre, planets in houses behave like actors on a stage, the *aspects* show how these planets/actor behave in a house

Planets conjunct a house cusp http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202304&postcount=7 http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=205033#post205033
Planets conj House cusp
“Ascendant at 15’ Libra and Jupiter 13’ Libra. That would place Jupiter in the 12th house, right? But many thoughtful astrologers would read this as Jupiter being conjunction with Ascendant, and end up reading it as bringing its action to bear in the first house, rather than in the 12th.
This same idea would apply for each and every house cusp. If the planet is IN THE SAME SIGN as the sign on the next house cusp, and close enough to be CONJUNCT WITH that next house cusp, the action of the planet will be directed into oncoming house” http://www.astrology-numerology.com/inhouses.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14887 http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=125412&postcount=4
Ptolemy says the influence of the house begins to be felt 5° before the actual cusp. http://www.astrologycom.com/houses.html

posted March 17, 2012 06:11 PM            

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Ruler of the First House in the Second House

You have a strong desire to accumulate possessions and earning your own money is important to you. What you have, materially speaking, influences your outlook on life. Creating your own sense of liberty and freedom largely depends on how well you handle your financial security issues.

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I'm not so focused on accumulating things (any more), but earning my own money is a big, big thing for me. I've found that I'm unable to gain freedom because of being horrible at managing my finances, much to my chagrin.

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Ruler of the First House in the Third House

You're curious about life and learning is important to you. You want to get your ideas noticed and communication is important to you.
There is a strong need to feel well integrated into your immediate community and you may make many short local trips.
You tend to have a lot of interest in your siblings if you have them and you identify strongly with close relatives in general.

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My sister and I are quite close, but that's about as integrated into the community as I get. Learning is important to me, but I don't feel a very strong need to communicate, per se. Too much socializing wipes me out and I need to recharge.

posted March 17, 2012 06:14 PM            

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Retrograde Jupiter: These people are capable of taking advantage of opportunities that others ignore or pass by. They prefer to “take another crack” at things others have tried & failed. Their moral & ethical code, religion & philosophy are their own. They seek answers from within rather than subscribing to the standard dogma. They seek abundance in new, untried & unproved areas.

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Jupiter Retrograde
* has doubts about what they deserve and so ...
* finds it easy to settle for crumbs
* feels superior in some way inside
* abundance is felt on the inside
* looks inside for answers to religious questions

Jupiter represents the principles of expansion, gambling, speculation, luck, opportunities, optimism, abundance, travel, higher education, teaching, religion and philosophy. Approximately four months a year, this planet slips into retrograde. When it does, you are likely to see its influence roll through your life and society around you. Plans have a tendency to implode. Jupiter retrograde influences us internally to look within to seek new meanings. You may find you can best use these opportunities to revaluate your life and reach new levels of awareness and understanding.

If Jupiter is retrograde in your natal chart, you have a very rich internal life. You actually make your own luck. Abundance is felt within as you search the world looking to discover truth and develop a broader philosophy of life and living. At the same time, you may feel hesitant about involving yourself too deeply in others affairs or sharing your views out of a concern for being thought so different that you may be cast out by public opinion. Speculations may not bring you all the external rewards you seek, but each time you take a chance, your adventures allow you to gain from a wide variety of experiences. You must remain open and honest with yourself in order to expand your spirituality and allow your inner voice to guide you. http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/retrogradeplanets.htm#juprx

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posted March 17, 2012 06:18 PM            

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Now in Equal house aquarius rules 3rd and posited 12th, so will post both to see what you think..

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Ruler of the Third House in the First House

You enjoy sharing whatever is going on in your life with others and one of the primary ways that you relate to people is by using your conversational skills to the utmost. Childhood experiences, especially those that happened during your early school years, could have significantly shaped your outlook on life. Other important figures may have included close relatives, particularly a brother or sister.
Ruler of the Third House in the Twelfth House

You keep many of your thoughts to yourself and you are quite capable of keeping a secret, which is something other people can appreciate. It's natural for you to understand more abstract spiritual concepts that go beyond traditional orthodox boundaries.
You often speak from the subconscious mind without even realizing it and past life memories may filter through into your conscious mind. You can develop your intuition to a high degree. There could have been unclear circumstances surrounding a brother/sister or a near relative. Or, you may simply have a strong past life connection with them. http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr3

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posted March 17, 2012 06:21 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
have you researched jup retro?

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posted March 17, 2012 06:24 PM            

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Indulgence, or over-indulgence, in food, wine, drugs, and good times are some of the dangers that lurk in Jupiter’s shadows. The “fairy godmother complex” is another possibility. With a tendency to feel special to god or providence, and to be watched over and protected by unseen forces, people may take their health, wealth, and social position for granted and loose them all at some point. Wastefulness is another Jupiter shadow quality. Conceit, hyperbole, hypocrisy (“do as I say, not as I do”), and exaggeration (as used in advertising and propaganda), can also hide under Jupiter’s throne. The tendencies to sermonize and proselytize are Jovan character flaws, too. “God told me and I’m just telling you for your own good!”

The Jupiter Complex ordains that everything should be light, white, and bright, and demands conformity to the community’s, or group’s, ideology (to follow the “party line”). Many “New Agers” suffer from this. They will not look at the dark side; they are terrified by Pluto, and so can never get in touch with their inner power and be truly effective in the world. An example of this Jovan conformity among New Agers was encountered at a Crop Circle Presentation in Mount Shasta. Those of us who dared not to conform by offering possible scientific or realistic explanations of the phenomena were regarded as heretics, and our input was completely unappreciated. There may have been a lot of Neptune going on too.

Values are associated with Jupiter, and the sign Jupiter is in defines the values in a specific chart. The house it is in also defines those values. For example, Jupiter in a fixed sign values the unchanging, loyalty, sturdiness, and a staunch attitude. Mutable sign values include adaptability and versatility, while Cardinal signs prefer enterprise and action. Since Jupiter inflates and exaggerates the qualities of its sign, in Pisces, for instance, it may glamorize suffering and humility, or feel that suffering makes one superior. “He who sitteth upon a hot stove shall arise,” implies spiritual growth happens only through suffering. http://www.astrologyclub.org/

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Jupiter in Aquarius individuals attract the most good fortune when they are tolerant and fair, inventive, impartial, and cooperative. They are at their best when they have freedom of choice, when they break a few rules, and when they think outside of the box.

As an Air sign Jupiter, you are mentally adventurous, ready and willing to learn, into "mind expansion", and less attached to your values than others because you are generally quite impartial and open-minded. You are able to see many sides to an argument.

Better times of any year for you to realize your goals include when the Sun is in the sign of your Jupiter, Aquarius, and when the Sun is in fellow Air signs, Gemini and Libra. See the table below for when these periods occur each year. http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/jupiterinsigns.html

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posted March 17, 2012 06:32 PM            

taurus naturally rules 2nd house and likes to accumulate property and possessions. Maybe you jupiter over spends on things that feed your self worth or self esteem?

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Second House

The second house deals with the physical plane of existence with regards to what you have in the material sense. Money, money you earn, debts, and possessions, especially those you value highly. It is also your value system in general and your personal feelings of self worth. In other words, what you can allow yourself to have, based on what you feel you deserve. For example; are life options few because of lack of cash? Do you spend every penny you have and then some because you don't really feel you deserve to have money? Attitudes pro and con about money and material goodies are found here. This is the house of liberty. This refers to the liberty and options in life that having a secure financial picture produces.
The second house corresponds to Taurus and so any planets in this house function with some underlying Taurus style. Additionally, the second house, also represents our personal likes or dislikes, deep emotions and attachments http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houses.htm

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posted March 17, 2012 06:33 PM            

Basic astrology forum discussing Saturn in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000660.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….

posted March 17, 2012 06:41 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
have you looked at saturn being in 12th

Basic astrology forum discussing Saturn in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000660.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….

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I've always thought Saturn felt right in the 11th because I don't have many close friendships and am bad at maintaining friendships. This quote about Saturn in the 12th, though, really hits home:

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"saturn in or ruling 12th house can show a father either absent, missing or simply effectual in setting boundaries structures and alike in early childhood. psychological or physical absence of a father (or authority figure) who worked, or who provided a model for you in terms of discipline, organisation, and coping with the realities of everyday living, you were not encouraged to develop your ambition or your competitive spirit, or to believe in your potential for success. This can add listlessness and not finding ones direction"

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posted March 17, 2012 06:48 PM            

just noticed you posted your parallels.

You have jupiter square saturn natally but in parallels it acts like conjunction. so this aspect needs more attention..

this can tend towards a see-saw temperament, jupiter wants to expand and grow and enjoy matters,while saturn tends to put a major dampener on matters. Even if you wanted to go out and have a wild time, saturn would always remind that you have work next day and need some sleep, type of thing.

Does this resonate?

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Jupiter square Saturn: *You have an inner conflict between idealism, hope, and faith in the future versus doubt and oppression by limitations and practical realities. You need to develop discipline and patience in order to achieve your aspirations. You will grow by learning to accept frustration and to persevere in spite of obstacles.

jupiter conj saturn
*Your aspirations and dreams are always tempered by realism and practical considerations. You pursue your aims in a systematic, disciplined, and thorough manner, and you are willing to take your time, advancing slowly and steadily on your way to your goal.

Sometimes you underestimate what is possible, and hold yourself back unnecessarily due to a lack of faith or an overly cautious attitude. http://cafeastrology.com/natal/jupitersaturnaspects.html

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posted March 17, 2012 06:59 PM            

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Okie dokey, so my parallels are:

Sun 23N25 -- Mercury 23N50 -- Mars 24N01

Jupiter 16S37 -- Saturn 16S07

Uranus 22S39 -- Neptune 22S15

I'm posting the declinations in case I screwed something up:

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well done again, parallels are not really hard and can be seen visually at a glance. I just wish more people would use them...

I would ignore the uranus/neptune as this is simply generational inanyevent. Just for future reference, there are more parallels to the right of your picture that would include Ascc and MC and other house cusps,but to me obviously Asc/MC could easily have a planet on it....

so sun/uranus & neptune are contra parallel which act like oppositions
mercury/uranus contra parallel
node contra jupiter/saturn
chiron contra jupiter

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uto (to transform) in the House of Ideals

You like to have power over your friends, and you have a till-death-do-us-part attitude to friends. You may have few friends, but you are loyal, and the links can be deep and lasting. You desire to make over your friends. You can also be intense about your hopes and wishes too, throwing yourself into them with great intensity. You may have a strong drive to change society and groups. You could be drawn to communal living. http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesPluto.htm#o1 Aries

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Eleventh House
Pluto is positioned in the eleventh house suggesting reformer tendencies expressed though group activity. You are apt to be an activist in the most literal sense of the word. The placement suggests the potential for successful and dynamic group leadership. Strong and powerful friends are suggested by this house position. The rights of others must be respected, and you must use your will power cooperatively to function creatively within the group.
© Michael McClain 1996-2009. Permission is granted for unlimited noncommercial use. All other rights reserved. http://astrology-numerology.com/inhouses-pluto.html

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Pluto in 11th House - succeedent
Loner. Not lonely but aware you are alone. Very few intimate friends. Friends will bend your ear because they know you are good at keeping secrets. Lost friends through death
Won't ask favours from friends. Not powerfully placed here.Reformist tendencies expressed in friendships and groups or will attract powerful friends. Great leadership qualities

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Pluto in 11th House

*You may have a deep aversion to groups, associations, clubs, or organizations of any kind. Any such group you become involved in is likely to be either for intense personal growth, change, and healing, or centered around social change and revising society in some manner.

#Circumstances impel you to change, ready or not. Sometimes you feel you must listen to a lot of other people's dreams and follow them. It is important to weigh their urgings against the inner voice of your own desire.

^With Pluto in your 11th House, you may meet many of your power issues within the social sphere, particularly around special interest groups or when dealing with political processes. You're not the women who enjoys sitting on the sidelines if you're part of a group, especially if something could be done more effectively. If you have not developed a strong sense of your own ideals and beliefs you can fall under the influence of others who would usurp your power in order to boost their own. But once you've awakened to your own ideals, drives and directives, you can be a highly influential leader and instigator of social change. The extent of your efforts depends upon you and the choices you make for yourself.
http://cafeastrology.com/articles/plutoinhouses.html

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posted March 17, 2012 07:22 PM            

Re: Pluto in 11th -- I do have an aversion to groups. There's a little social anxiety attributed to that.