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Topic: He is broke and depressed because of me...HELP
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Charlotte_E Knowflake Posts: 59 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 19, 2012 12:42 PM
Hello everyone.I am reposting here from the Astrology 2.0 forum. My boyfriend is gone broke and I feel it is because of me. I am never out of money (8th house mini stellium including Venus) and thus I tend to spend a little laxly. He is not as lucky with finances and has gone broke trying to keep up with my lifestyle. Since he has always been somewhat secretive, I do not hear about this until the situation is severe. I don't know how to help him, it is a tricky situation. Perhaps you guys can help me? Any help/advice would be appreciated. Our charts: MINE
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ariesdragon Moderator Posts: 1397 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 19, 2012 01:19 PM
HIS Moon Square North Node: Your relationship with women who can help fulfill your ambitions or help you gain social recognition is rocky at best. Pubic opinions and trends can create trivial problems, often in your home life. Your emotions and public opinions are often at odds.It's not your fault Charlotte it's in his chart. Glad I could help IP: Logged |
Charlotte_E Knowflake Posts: 59 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 19, 2012 01:28 PM
I see! I've never really known what the Node is for. Interesting.Funny thing is I seem to have the same aspect as well? I appreciate the help a lot. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Moderator Posts: 1397 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 19, 2012 01:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Charlotte_E: I see! I've never really known what the Node is for. Interesting.Funny thing is I seem to have the same aspect as well? I appreciate the help a lot.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 29517 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 19, 2012 03:09 PM
Jerry--if I bump my chart, will you look at it? http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/002954.html ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 29517 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 19, 2012 03:10 PM
Charlotte You have Saturn conj the DSC. Do you attract people who cause YOU to learn self discipline?------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 29517 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 19, 2012 03:12 PM
Charlotte Have you had a lot of shake ups with work or health?------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 29517 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 19, 2012 03:15 PM
Do you have a great desire for marriage? What hidden but very deep pain are you holding if you care to say. If you want us to look at you and your b/f, see if you can put up a synastry chart--Sweetie.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Lioness Knowflake Posts: 4355 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted March 19, 2012 08:42 PM
Sorry I didnt look at the charts here, but I still wanted to put my 2 cents in. It is not your responsibilty to work through his fincances. He should be responsible enough to live with in his own personal budget.. ITs not your fault if he doesnt.. No matter the reason.. If he's trying to impress you, by buying things out side of his means, that is his issue not yours. Part of being a grown up and an adult is living within your own personal means and taking resposibitity for you own actions if you dont. IP: Logged |
Charlotte_E Knowflake Posts: 59 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 21, 2012 10:42 AM
Here is the Synastry chart, if you care to look.I really appreciate all the help you guys are giving. And I am learning a lot too
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Charlotte_E Knowflake Posts: 59 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 21, 2012 10:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Charlotte You have Saturn conj the DSC. Do you attract people who cause YOU to learn self discipline?
This is so true! Remarkable. I am attracted to that kind as well. I find it attractive when a man is so self controlled and practical. IP: Logged |
Charlotte_E Knowflake Posts: 59 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 21, 2012 10:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Charlotte Have you had a lot of shake ups with work or health?
Work -- recently no, perhaps because of Venus transiting my 10th. But before that, I have had trouble following through on what is given to me as a task. Health -- yes! I have been struggling to lose some weight that I have gained over the years. Not so much but it is obsessing me )
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Charlotte_E Knowflake Posts: 59 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 21, 2012 10:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Do you have a great desire for marriage? What hidden but very deep pain are you holding if you care to say. If you want us to look at you and your b/f, see if you can put up a synastry chart--Sweetie.
Yes, I have run out of ideas so I am coming to you guys as a last resort... amazing how you could read that. I think I am quite afraid of marriage, but not because I want to play around with romance, but probably because I am afraid my partner might not take it as seriously as I take it. I take to heart what is meant by "Til death" and when I make that commitment, I want to be sure that I can hold through. I have put up the synastry chart, perhaps you could take a look if you be so kind IP: Logged |
Charlotte_E Knowflake Posts: 59 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 21, 2012 10:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lioness: Sorry I didnt look at the charts here, but I still wanted to put my 2 cents in. It is not your responsibilty to work through his fincances. He should be responsible enough to live with in his own personal budget.. ITs not your fault if he doesnt.. No matter the reason.. If he's trying to impress you, by buying things out side of his means, that is his issue not yours. Part of being a grown up and an adult is living within your own personal means and taking resposibitity for you own actions if you dont.
Well, I gotta admit, I can always expect a Leo to be so concerned. Thank you Lioness
Sadly, I have tried to instill that in myself, but I cannot bear to watch him be driven to pieces by his own immaturity. The fact that he was abused as a child did not help in his growth
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YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 2073 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted March 21, 2012 11:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by Charlotte_E: Yes, I have run out of ideas so I am coming to you guys as a last resort... amazing how you could read that.I think I am quite afraid of marriage, but not because I want to play around with romance, but probably because I am afraid my partner might not take it as seriously as I take it. I take to heart what is meant by "Til death" and when I make that commitment, I want to be sure that I can hold through. I have put up the synastry chart, perhaps you could take a look if you be so kind
I'm not knowledgeable about astrology, so I'm sorry I cannot help you on that front. However, I speak as a man. You are correct to give pause to marriage because it is incumbent on the man to get his own house in order before engaging someone to be involved in his future. That unfortunately involves having a proper career and managing his finances effectively. Marriage is an expensive proposition and unfortunately it goes far beyond having affectionate emotions. One cannot live on fresh air and sunshine, although I wish we could. A wedding is expensive. A new home is even more expensive. If children are involved, then the need for monetary resources only compounds exponentially. I myself refused to consider marriage until I could not just get through the wedding but have a well established career, immediately buy an attractive home and have a pretty decent amount of available resources. My best wishes and all luck to you. IP: Logged |
Charlotte_E Knowflake Posts: 59 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 21, 2012 11:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: I'm not knowledgeable about astrology, so I'm sorry I cannot help you on that front. However, I speak as a man.You are correct to give pause to marriage because it is incumbent on the man to get his own house in order before engaging someone to be involved in his future. That unfortunately involves having a proper career and managing his finances effectively. Marriage is an expensive proposition and unfortunately it goes far beyond having affectionate emotions. One cannot live on fresh air and sunshine, although I wish we could. A wedding is expensive. A new home is even more expensive. If children are involved, then the need for monetary resources only compounds exponentially. I myself refused to consider marriage until I could not just get through the wedding but have a well established career, immediately buy an attractive home and have a pretty decent amount of available resources. My best wishes and all luck to you.
Thank you for the kind advice. I do agree, there are so many things to consider before marriage, I believe so many divorces are a result of the disillusionment of the couple involved. I am not much of a romantic...in fact I would just prefer a civil wedding. I do not demand from a partner the high maintenance that so many girls squeeze out of their partners these days. Good thing I am still unmarried and young. The best of luck to you as well...
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SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 3038 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 21, 2012 05:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Charlotte_E: I see! I've never really known what the Node is for. Interesting.Funny thing is I seem to have the same aspect as well? I appreciate the help a lot.
There is more information here delineating Nodes, if not interested in research or learning astrology, please feel free to ignore and move on. I’m only here to help --- Basic astrology forum, North Node – Life Lessons http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000710.html To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology…. Astrology can explain many things, but it cannot make anything happen.... Free astrology reading thread http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/002828.html IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 3038 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 21, 2012 05:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by Charlotte_E: This is so true! Remarkable. I am attracted to that kind as well. I find it attractive when a man is so self controlled and practical.
Can you post the aspect grid for the bii wheel... There is more information here delineating synastry, if not interested in research or learning astrology, please feel free to ignore and move on. I’m only here to help -- Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html To enter this forum you need an extra password – (astrology) Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% (ONLY for synastry bi wheel) as the max orb between planets is 3'. Composite should be 85% orbs. Please also include, vertex, juno and POF (part of fortune). when you get this SYNASTRY chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages. Scroll down to last page for the *ASPECT GRID* THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AS IT SEEMS TO SHOW MORE ASPECTS THAN IS VISIBLE ON THE BI WHEEL… problem is uploading to photobucket (or imageshack) you have to change this from Abode format into a picture/jpeg format. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid in front of you on screen then, the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has been copied to clipboard. Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart, press IMG and past link into thread.... all done
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SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 3038 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 21, 2012 05:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by Charlotte_E: Yes, I have run out of ideas so I am coming to you guys as a last resort... amazing how you could read that.I think I am quite afraid of marriage, but not because I want to play around with romance, but probably because I am afraid my partner might not take it as seriously as I take it. I take to heart what is meant by "Til death" and when I make that commitment, I want to be sure that I can hold through. I have put up the synastry chart, perhaps you could take a look if you be so kind
Saturn in the 7th can show where we lack confidence and need to work harder at things to make them work.. There is more information here delineating Saturn, if not interested in research or learning astrology, please feel free to ignore and move on. I’m only here to help --- Basic astrology forum discussing Saturn in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000660.html To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology…. Basic astrology forum discussing Neptune in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000661.html To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology…. Basic astrology forum discussing Uranus in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000662.html Basic astrology forum discussing Pluto in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000663.html To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology…. This saturn is also a singleton. Basic astrology forum, retrogrades,Unaspected & Singletons http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Basic+Astrology&number=12&DaysPrune= To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology…. ------------------ In Astrology 2.0 forum, beginners learning astrology http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212463.html in Astrology 2.0 forum, What’s next for learning (intermediate) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212464.html In Astrology 2.0 what’s next for learning (advanced) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212465.html I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 3038 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 21, 2012 05:41 PM
you also have a small talent triangle with Uranus as apex planet. you can find info on this in basic forum.. Now in HIS chart, transiting saturn is currently conj his sun and this lowers the energy, vitality and can suggest problems with father and/or authority figures. quote:
When Saturn transits conjunct the Sun, our level of maturity, realism, and responsibility come up for inspection. The goals we have set for ourselves, as well as our very character, are now re-evaluated for strength and purpose, and tested against reality. Saturn has a way of slowing down our life, as if it is forcing us to take a really good look at it. Because the Sun rules our vitality, we may feel that our energy is somewhat depleted. We begin to feel our age, and the pressures that may go along with it. We may feel alone and un-parented or unsupported. We may be assessing our achievements to date, and we are extremely sensitive to whether or not we have been recognized on a professional level as well as on a personal level. Whether our talents and abilities, and our unique individuality and character, are recognized by others becomes especially important to us. We tend to be self-critical and/or we feel that others do not support or recognize us enough. This process is necessary, as we are learning to see ourselves more realistically—without rose-colored glasses�so that we can move forward with a stronger sense of purpose. This may be a time when we cut out projects or possibly relationships that are no longer working for us, or that have been built on weak foundations. We are essentially conserving our energy for those things that do work for us, and we work on building and strengthening them. http://www.cafeastrology.com/saturntransitaspects.html
for next 2years or so T saturn in Scorpio is going to do a number on his scorpio planets.. You can get a free six month transit forecast from astro.com by Robert Hand. You can also learn more about how transits work in Basic forum. IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 3038 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 21, 2012 05:49 PM
His moon in Aries is also a singlton ie: being the only planet in fire, which the chart lacksLack of elements http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18077 http://www.astrology-numerology.com/elements.html http://www.astrology.aryabhatt.com/Astrology_Elements.asp http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm http://www.astrologyclub.org/article.../inferior2.htm http://www.nanceestar.com/elements.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=319747&posted=1#post319747 Fire Absence The limited presence of the Fire element in your horoscope may suggest the need to experience life more actively. It may benefit you to become more vital, for you may lack the passion and spark that the fire signs afford. This doesn't mean that you don't enjoy life, but merely that you don't seem to know how to insert yourself into the action; pleasure, thrills and glory will be slow coming your way. Your pleasures are apt to be more subtle and sensitive, without the dramatics and flash. Although this void does not guarantee an introvert, you are not likely to be the extrovert. You lack the dare-devil courage of the fire signs, and this includes the utter self-confidence these signs bestow http://www.astrology-numerology.com/elements.html#Fire%20Absence sun square saturn shows a lack of rapport with father. Moon is afflicted with moon square neptune and uranus. One is a divorce aspect and the other with neptune shows confusions, illusions around mother, could have smother loved or emotinally neglected. venus conj jupiter in virgo are not well placed by sign (in their fall) but helped a little by conjunction quote:
Mars square Saturn The square between Mars and Saturn sets up a defensiveness in your nature, producing some difficulties in personal relationships. Fear of rejection, perhaps based on early life experiences, prompts a sense of caution in romance. You have a tendency toward melancholy and self-pity. This aspect is an impediment to happiness and the expression of optimism. In the expression of energies, there is an alternating current between assertiveness and apathy. You may be slow to reach long range goals despite much hard work and continued effort. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/marsaspects.html#massa
sun conj mars (out of sign) can show someone quite wilfull and desire to control others...IP: Logged |
SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 3038 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted March 21, 2012 05:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by Charlotte_E: Hello everyone.I am reposting here from the Astrology 2.0 forum. My boyfriend is gone broke and I feel it is because of me. I am never out of money (8th house mini stellium including Venus) and thus I tend to spend a little laxly. He is not as lucky with finances and has gone broke trying to keep up with my lifestyle. Since he has always been somewhat secretive, I do not hear about this until the situation is severe. I don't know how to help him, it is a tricky situation. Perhaps you guys can help me? Any help/advice would be appreciated.
His financial problems, in fact life problems can be seen in his transits YOUR secondary progressed sun is 4' taurus making a sextile to natal mars. quote:
Progressed Sun sextile or trine Mars You feel you have an overabundance of energy to support yourself, and that's pretty much correct. You don't have to go an extra mile to get an extra credit right now, as you've got the follow-through to do what's necessary without extra investment. When it feels right, you've got the extra juice to make it so. http://www.cafeastrology.com/progressedplanetsaspects.html
HIS prog sun is now conj pluto, which is a major thing.. quote:
Progressed Sun conjunct Pluto The Sun illuminates regeneration needs when in relation to Pluto. This aspect indicates intense experiences which will not allow you to operate only at the surface level. In the Progressed chart, it can set the stage for major changes in your life that would have long-lasting effects. On the other hand it could just motivate you to repair something that has broken down, such as a car, an appliance, a relationship, or someone's health. You will get deeply involved in whatever you do now, as Pluto works from deep within your psyche. http://www.cafeastrology.com/progressedplanetsaspects.html
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Charlotte_E Knowflake Posts: 59 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 22, 2012 10:18 AM
Wow SaggiMC, thanks for all the sources.I have learned a lot from you today. I did not know about singleton planets, the progressed planets, etc. All I can say is wow. I thought I knew a lot, but there are still many things to uncover. Everything you said, especially about the lack of rapport with his father, rings so true. Also thank you for teaching me how to upload a chart, I was finding it quite tricky. IP: Logged |