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peachbeigeblue
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posted April 10, 2012 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There has been a guy on/off in my life for a few years now. I have never done a composite chart before today so I interested if any interpretation that can be offered.

Things are very complicated to say the least, but it wasn't until after the fact him and became very close. AS it turns out.. i just saw today that the exact day these events were happening... Saturn was on the exact degree it was when he was born.

This was January 2011. I thought that was a little strange. Him and I grew apart some later on last year around June when I became tired of waiting and busy commuting with work. Then I randomly felt inclined to see him and him to see me in September. I do not remember the exact day but this was again when Saturn had been at the degree again because of the retrograde.

I can say almost positively that we would never have gotten as close to even give it another shot had the weird chain of events in January not happened. But because of this, we grew close and ultimately feelings for one another. I am wondering what you could tell me about these charts and the possibility of him letting go past issues (from years ago) and dating me seriously. It is still relevant because it is something we have even talked about as recently as last week. I moved away for a few months and we recently have been talking/hanging out/in eachothers' lives again.

EDITED OUT CHARTS. WILL REPOST UPON REQUEST.


Thank you for any interpretation or comments.

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posted April 10, 2012 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have never had any one else's opinion on the composite chart. We have the Venus opposition Saturn - which we both have natally.

Composite Sun conjunct my Venus
-Composite Mars too but looser to my Venus
Composite Venus conjunct his Sun
Composite Moon conjunct my NN
Composite Mercury conjunct his NN
Composite North Node conjunct my Moon
Composite Karma conjunct my Venus (exact degree)
Composite MC conjunct my Sun (exact)

There are also some looser conjunctions with other natal planets but I am not sure if they matter.

In the composite chart, Venus conjunct North Node in 7th. I read this could be a karmic or fated relationship with that.

Also Moon in 4th house composite would be a good placement, right?

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posted April 10, 2012 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also want to add that we both Venus Opposite Saturn natally so our Composite does as well.

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posted April 12, 2012 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pretty please

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peachbeigeblue
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posted April 12, 2012 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pleasssse

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posted April 15, 2012 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, I just saw this !

This is wonderful!
But there's a catch. You asked if I think he will want to date you seriously? You have moon square uranus in the composite. Read the last aspect description in this post for what that means. It's basically indicative of an on/off relationship. Unfortunately this means that he MOST LIKELY will not come back and you wont be able to have a stable relationship. But there is a small chance you may, since you don't have any other uranus in your synastry/composite. I have seen happen before with venus/uranus. Rarely with moon/uranus. But I supposed it's possible.


This is why it's important to put your birth information into both grupovenus.com and astrology3d.com. If I hadnt put your birth info into astrology3d I would have no idea you guys had the love stellium, and wouldve kind of seen this as something where you two dont really connect or where you will both realize it wasnt what you thought and your feelings will die quickly. But you DO have the love stellium <3. Not only that but you have jupiter in the love stellium, which is truly wonderful!

Astrology3d shows you have composite sun semisquare venus and jupiter. This, along with composite sun conjunct mercury is equivalent to the love stellium with jupiter and mars thrown in. Lots of passion, lots of love, lots of feelings. Sun trine pluto=meaningful! this guarrantees this will be meaninful to you both and will also transform you both.

Composite sun in cancer with moon in pisces is absolute bliss. Read below for a description.

Your synastry guarrantees sexual attraction and romance.

you have venus trine pluto in synastry--amazing aspect. But it only counts if it's at a close orb.

Venus sextile neptune. and sun and mercury trine venus, moon trine moon, venus conjunct mars. Thats absolutely wonderful. not only that but you also have many other beautiful synastry aspects. Even if they are loose in orb, I still count them.

The only problem you guys have is neptune. Venus mutually squares neptune in synastry and you have sun opposite neptune in composite. Get ready for some disilliusions, but I think you can handle that <3

Grupovenus.com says:

Venus Mutually Aspects Mars

Romance! In a word, that summarizes the quality of your relationship. If you find each other physically attractive, then it is almost inevitable that a irresistibly passionate love affair will develop. Even if the physical attraction is not great, you will find yourselves strongly attracted to each other anyway. At times you will feel madly in love with each other, and unable to stay away from each other. Intense desire for each other at times can be so strong that any propensity towards jealousy and possessiveness will be brought out. So although the romantic and sexual intensity is exciting and fulfilling, it may also be stormy at times.


Venus Mutually Aspects Neptune

Your feelings for each other are so dreamy and idealized that it is doubtful that you have a very realistic view of each other. Enjoy the dreamy romance while it lasts but be ready also for times of disillusionment when the fog lifts and you see your partner in a clearer light.


Person2's Venus conjunct Person1's Mars orb 1° 9'

The romantic and sexual attraction between you is almost irresistible. This relationship is one that was probably 'more than just friends' from the start. The intensity of your feelings for one another is unlikely to fade over time, and you find much fulfillment in your love for each other.

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Astrology3d.com says


person2's Sun in Taurus and person1's Sun in Leo

Both of you are strong-willed and stubborn, and once you dedicate yourselves (to a person or a project), you will stay with it in good times and bad. Longevity, stability, and loyalty characterize your relationship. Both of you can be infuriatingly obstinate and inflexible at times, and your personal styles and tastes often conflict. For instance, person1 is a more social creature, wants to go out more often, and is more daring and colorful than person2 is. person1 will spend or gamble more freely than person2. But even though you thoroughly disagree sometimes, your commitment is always strong and rarely questioned. You KNOW you can depend on one another. Both of you are so resistant to change that even if you hated each other, it would be hard to disengage yourselves and move on! Also, you need to guard against becoming so self-satisfied and comfortable in your relationship that you take one another for granted

person2's Sun Conjunct person1's Moon

If the two of you are not married, there is a high probability that you will marry some day! You have a natural affinity for each other, feel very comfortable together, and can experience a very nourishing and intimate closeness. Even if your personalities are very different, you understand each other very well and you are truly friends as well as lovers. If you have children, you will work well together as parents and person1, in particular, will prove (perhaps to a surprising degree) very devoted to the family. person1 also helps, supports, and accepts person2, who gains much confidence and energy when the two of you are together. There is a deep, mutual appreciation of each other

person2's Sun Conjunct person1's Jupiter

There is a tremendous amount of good will, optimism, and enthusiasm in your relationship. person1 draws out person2's optimism and self-confidence and is able to assist person2 in discovering new possibilities and avenues for growth. A shared vision, philosophy, or goal for the future gives vitality to your relationship

person2's Moon Trine person1's Moon

Your moods, feelings, overall disposition, and personal tastes are very compatible and harmonious. There is a natural sympathy and appreciation that you share. You enjoy making a home together and your domestic life promises to be very harmonious and agreeable.

person2's Moon Conjunct person1's Neptune

You are very sympathetic and sensitive to one another's moods and emotional needs. person1, especially, is very compassionate and aware of person2's feelings. You also enjoy sharing ideals, social concerns, religious views, artistic, and musical tastes, and you are likely to engage in important social welfare, religious, and artistic areas together. However, if either of you has emotionally-based problems such as alcohol abuse, drug abuse, or fanatical religious attitudes, this problem will quickly become the focus of the relationship and undermine the relationship until the problem is overcome or the relationship dissolves.

Composite Report for person1 and person2



Sun 2 CN 11 17N38
Moon 13 PI 46 1S09
Mercury 13 CN 24 21N23
Venus 18 TA 50 10N38
Mars 4 CN 20 0N03
Jupiter 17 LE 46 4N29
Saturn 21 SC 30 12S10
Uranus 15 SG 16 21S07
Neptune 2 CP 14 22S09
Pluto 2 SC 19 3N36
Node 15 TA 56 9N03
Ascendant 5 SC 57 13S26
Midheaven 12 LE 58 16N45

Sun in Cancer

The longer both of you stay together, the stronger your emotional dependency grows. You enjoy being supportive of one another. This is a warm, protective and deeply caring relationship. You are capable of extreme closeness

Moon in Pisces

his is a very romantic, possibly even purely spiritual relationship. You are very sensitive to each other's moods, always knowing how your partner feels. At times, it is difficult to know which emotion belongs to whom. A psychic connection

Ascendant in Scorpio

It's difficult to know you two and because of this you may be the victims of misunderstandings from time to time. You are a magnetic couple. You project an air of mystery and depth and hidden passion. You like being alone together.

Sun Conjunct Mercury

Yours is an intellectual relationship, among other things. Exchanging thoughts, studying together, sharing information, talking and bantering, turning one another on to new books or ideas, sparking one another's curiosity and interest in the world - all of these are important aspects of your relationship. A certain detachment and the ability to think about and talk about what is going on between you are also highlighted. Put simply, becoming more conscious or more informed and educated is a significant reason the two of you are drawn together.

Sun Semisquare Venus

Quite simply, one of your purposes in being together is to create and express beauty, whether this is in the form of a beautiful, loving relationship, or gracious and artful works. There can also be an element of vanity, artifice, or show-offiness - the desire to be seen and recognized as a Beautiful Couple, whether or not that's entirely true. Hiding or downplaying your difficulties and the "uglies" in your relationship may be helpful to a point, but if you try to maintain this image of yourselves as a happy, loving twosome despite your actual conflicts, then deeper troubles may never get attended to. However, whatever friction, dissonance, or ill will develops between you, there will also always be an urge to harmonize, reconcile, and ease your differences, and to create cooperation. It will take a lot for the two of you to ever turn against each other entirely

Sun Conjunct Mars

Without a doubt, the two of you rouse strong energies within one another, and you will have to learn how to manage conflict, passion, and anger in a creative way. When you are together, you both tend to become competitive, overly eager, rambunctious, zealous. You are not destined to have a peaceful, placid coexistence! However, you can initiate new projects and get lots of work done together, if your drives are harnessed and channeled into creative enterprises. Winning at work and competition, developing a warrior spirit, encouraging one another to be bolder and more courageous - these are the positives you will discover and create together if you can diffuse the more aggressive, abrasive energies you bring out in each other.

Action, doing, accomplishing are much of what this relationship is about. Because you generate so much heat - on all levels - when you are together, your sexual energies will also be stimulated and will certainly be an undertone in your communication with one another.

Sun Semisquare Jupiter

One of the purposes of your relationship is to inspire the two of you to aim higher, to do bigger things, to see much more of the world, and to expand your sense of what is possible. The energy generated when the two of you are together inclines you to do everything on a grand scale, to want only the very best, and to constantly be striving to expand, grow, and improve your lives. If you translate this urge into material terms, you could overextend yourselves financially in pursuit of "the good life", consuming more and more, and forever trying to impress others with your largesse. A restlessness or discontentment with what is can develop, and frequent moves in pursuit of "greener grass" could result.

Inner growth and spiritual or psychological development are enhanced by your being together, spurred on by this same urge for "a better life". Higher ideals, religion, philosophy, and the big questions of life will become a focus of your relationship, even if neither of you is especially oriented toward these subjects. There may well be differences and friction over these topics, but you both will learn about your own faith and beliefs via being with one another.

Sun Opposite Neptune

No matter how practical and well-grounded the two of you are as individuals, together you have some real blind spots, things which you don't see clearly at all, or which you see through a haze of fantasy and hope. Deception and/or self-deception can undermine this relationship if you are not as clear, precise, and honest with one another as you can be. It would be extremely helpful if you can find an objective third party to give you some realistic feedback about one another or any problems that may come up between you. Financial business or other practical affairs which are joint endeavors should also be checked by a competent outside party.

One troublesome tendency the two of you have is to try to "save" one another. Attempts to rescue or to play a "helpless" victim in need of rescuing will not work out well. At your best, you enhance one another's sensitivity and evoke compassion and understanding in one another. At worst, you may deceive one another or create false images

Sun Trine Pluto

Profound and lasting changes occur in both of you as the result of your relationship. You cannot avoid knowing one another very deeply and revealing aspects of yourselves to each other which very few other people have ever seen. The passion and emotional intensity which flows between you also bonds you very closely.

As a team you will be incredibly effective and potent. As a couple you will influence others very significantly, more so than you probably realize

Moon Trine Mercury

Long, intimate chats, talking and listening to one another, sharing confidential or personal stories, discussing emotional concerns and/or family matters - these play a crucial role in your relationship. You may tell one another extremely personal details of your lives, even before you know one another that well, and it will be very easy for you to divulge these things to one another. At times your conversations may become very trivial and gossipy, but somehow satisfying nonetheless. You are good listeners, sounding boards for one another, and through your relationship, you both get some clearer understanding and objectivity about the things that really matter to you. The inner, private, personal aspect of life will be the primary focus in your discussions. If you live at a distance from one another, correspondence or long-distance phone calls will keep you close. Part of the purpose of your relationship is for each of you to have a confidante and counselor

Moon Square Uranus

The two of you are destined to have a rather unsettling affect upon one another. Your relationship may begin quite suddenly and unexpectedly, disrupting your normal routines and perhaps other relationships you are engaged in. There is an electric excitement between you which can be very thrilling, but also unnerving. Emotional impulsiveness and "acting crazy" together, doing things that are totally out of character or far more radical and daring that either of you would be inclined to do alone, are to be expected. For a long time you may have an unstable, on-again/off-again connection with one another, and unless there are other stabilizing factors between you, that's all it may ever be

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posted April 15, 2012 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the record, I don't consider Venus opposite or square Saturn in the composite a big deal. Moon opposite/square saturn...that's a whole nother story.

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posted April 15, 2012 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you RAS. I was so excited you answered this. I saw your readings on other synastry and pretty much just thought, "I hope RunningAroundScreaming answers."

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posted April 20, 2012 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 20, 2012 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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