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seeker3030
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posted April 11, 2012 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

I'm just wondering if the Saturn sq Venus aspect amongst other things means that this is something that will be a transient sort of 'soulmate lesson learning/karmic balancing' exercise rather than a long term relationship. Obviously I realise that lots of factors determine things like this and who can ever say for certain, but just looking for people's initial opinions based on what's in the synastry and composite please. I’ve included natals just in case the degrees are needed for clarity. Thanks ever so much for any help

Composite chart

Synastry chart

My natal


His natal

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seeker3030
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posted April 12, 2012 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gently bumping :-)

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seeker3030
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posted April 15, 2012 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump :-)

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RunAroundScreaming
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posted April 15, 2012 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How to find the compatibility between two people:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/002840.html

Make sure to but the birthdates into astrology3d.com to see if you have composite sun semisquare or sesquiquadrate venus, which are the same as sun conjunct venus.

Also make sure to put the birthdates into the compatibility for lovers report at grupovenus.com to see if you have any mutual aspects aka "double whammy" aspects which will basically summarize in one fell swoop the entire relationship.

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seeker3030
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posted April 15, 2012 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info RAS - will take a look

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RunAroundScreaming
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posted April 27, 2012 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, so one problem I see is that venus conjunct pluto is a very binding and passionate force, but a conjunction being as turbulent as the opposition or square, usually is so intense that it doesn't last long. Pluto (you, in this case) comes off too strong to the venus person.

The other problem is the venus square saturn in synastry. I understand that people sometimes confuse saturn for a good influence because they are attracted to people who they have saturn with. But, the problem is they are usually the saturn person, and they dont realize at all how the person with the personal planet feels about them. The other person will find the saturn person stifling, dominating, critical. Not good at all. They both feel that there sense of commitment and responsibility towards each other, but the saturn person feels this especially. The other person will feel the need to leave sooner or later after feeling so held back and dominated. In reality, with saturn in synastry, both people feel the saturn heaviness of boredom and lack of fun between them, but the saturn person doesn't see it as that big a deal, while the person with the personal planet is the one doing most of the work trying to get saturn to come out of their shell and join them in fun, and eventually gets tired of feeling stifled and leaves. The saturn person doesn't realize that the other person sees them this way, though.

Anywho'z here is the official description for venus opposite saturn

Guy's Venus square Seeker's Saturn orb 0° 3'

This relationship may very well lead to marriage, but there are some major negative tendencies that you both need to try to avoid. The proclivity to marriage stems from the strong sense of commitment, reliability, trustworthiness, faithfulness, and stability that this relationship offers. You both feel that you can count on each other and dedicate your lives to each other. However, this stable, reliable relationship can easily become boring, unexciting, and downright cold over time. Guy, in particular, is likely to feel stifled by the relationship. Guy may feel neglected, unloved, and unappreciated. Your tastes and interests are often different and you sometimes simply don't connect with each other on an emotional level. To prevent this relationship from drying up, you both must maintain your involvement in activities that inspire and uplift you, and maintain your friendships, hobbies, and entertainment you love - even when your partner does not share your enthusiasm for these activities.

Sun conjunct pluto in the composite along with a tight venus conjunct pluto in synastry with mutual positive venus-neptune aspects and other nice synastry aspects guarranteed there would be an attraction between you. However, even though most people say that saturn is what binds two people together, i wholeheartedly disagree. It's a strong composite that does. Honestly, because the composite is so weak, it doesnt surprise me that this was a passing thing. If you had sun conjunct jupiter or venus TOGETHER with say venus trine pluto, sun conjunct/negative aspect to pluto, or sun conjunct moon, then you'd have a relationship where both people felt things were going somewhere and so there would be longetivity. But sun conjunct pluto creates an attraction, but there needs to be a large amount of "attraction" aspects in the composite to create longetivity. You guys only had one. Saturn trines and sextiles are wonderful (as long as there arent too many of them, and as long as it's not a DW of the same saturn aspect) because it truly feels like you can count on each other. However, it's often only a FEELING and not reality. Without the right composite, positive saturn will make it feel like you can count on each other while the relationship LASTS, but it doesn't mean that the relationship will indeed last.


Other problems:

Guy's Moon square Seeker's Neptune orb 2° 19'

You spark each other's imagination and fantasies, but the tendency to deceive each other is also very strong. You fascinate and intrigue each other, clouding your vision and causing you to often misunderstand each other. For example, you tend to project fantasies and hopes on each other - this is not necessarily bad because these fantasies can become a rich source for imaginative, inspiring works of art or music. Do not rush into a serious relationship too quickly, though, because you need time to make sure that you haven't got caught up in a romantic, idealistic vision of each other, from which you will later wake. If either of you has a major problem of a psychological, alcohol-related, or drug-related nature, this relationship can become a partnership in dissolute, self-destructive, negative habits.


Guy's Mercury square Seeker's Saturn orb 1° 44'

Seeker is often critical and coldly analytical of Guy's ideas, and Guy is likely to feel belittled by Seeker. If both of you are able to offer criticisms and comments with a helpful, positive attitude, then this astrological influence need not be overwhelming, but the tendency to feel blocked and frustrated in your communications is very strong. You must make sincere efforts to listen receptively and sympathetically!

Venus Mutually Aspects Neptune

Your feelings for each other are so dreamy and idealized that it is doubtful that you have a very realistic view of each other. Enjoy the dreamy romance while it lasts but be ready also for times of disillusionment when the fog lifts and you see your partner in a clearer light.

Guy's Mercury conjunct Seeker's Pluto orb 1° 46'

Your conversations tend to be probing and deep. You enjoy uncovering the underlying motivations and causes of a situation. Frequently what starts out as a light, friendly conversation ends up as an in-depth psychoanalysis of each other! Seeker may dominate your conversations and at times tries to force Guy into agreeing or believing whatever Seeker wants!


Guy's Venus conjunct Seeker's Pluto orb 0° 5'

Romantic and sexual attraction is very powerful, but is likely to have an intense, obsessive quality as well. Guy, in particular, may feel that Seeker comes on too strong or is too insatiable and demanding. Jealousy, sexual manipulation, or unrestrained emotional fervor are strong potentials between the two of you. An almost fated, love-hate kind of relationship is very possible.

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seeker3030
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posted April 28, 2012 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow!!!! Thank you so much RAS for doing all of that for me! You don't know how much I appreciate it Yes it's easy to see where the cracks appeared when you look at all of this and the 'strengths' of the synastry vs the apparent weakness of the composite. Well I shall chalk it up to experience and always pay more attention to a composite in future too! Thank you again for going to such trouble for me xx

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RunAroundScreaming
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posted April 28, 2012 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aww you're a sweetheart, seeker. It was no trouble at all =)

XOXO hugs

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