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posted December 11, 2004 08:00 AM            

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Hi sweetie,
You have by far the most unique chart here. You have 7 Capricorn placements (counting the descendant) with a majority of your planets in the 7th/8th houses. All aspects to this cluster are easy. Thats almost unheard of, and very good. You're focus is strong

Heavy Karma in this life, almost all of which is through others. Probably heavy responsibilities. You have a wonderfully spiritual Jupiter in the 12th house. This placement watches out and takes care of you.

You also have a very fated Ascendant, with 29 degrees Gemini conjuncting Chiron (1 Cancer). I suspect that this placement is a cut above. Everything I have seen so far with this placement of Chiron seems to indicate that. With so little of Gemini left in the 1st house you carry a lot of Cancer traits. Sweet and sensitive. I'll get back to your stellium later but for right now I'd like to concentrate on your 12th house Jupiter.

(Marilyn Waram)

With the planet of ultimate values placed in the house of ultimate spiritual values, anything seems possible! Both Jupiter and the twelfth house represent elemental components of human nature which do not wish to accept boundaries. It is their nature to go beyond boundaries. In the first case, through ceaseless expansion. In the second, by transcendence. In addition, both of these elemental components deal in future possibilities, not practical issues. They are both mutable; restless and changeable, not stable.

Jupiter in the twelfth may indicate an individual who has limitless faith in the universe, its goodness and her future in it. It is another of the placements which has a somewhat stronger than usual possibility of a supportive basic world view, of a foundation belief in the perfection of the cosmos, of the protection or at least general good will of the Being or Knowingness behind it all. With the level of faith possible in this placement, this person can become a fantastic inspiration to all who know her. The broadness and depth of her spiritual acceptance may be incredible. It may also fall into the category of 'Goody Two Shoes'. She might insist that everything that occurs, no matter how tragic, has to be good. In so doing, she may deny the very real pain of people who need to grieve.

This person may make spiritual development and reconnection with the Divine Nature an ultimate value. She may honor a peaceful, loving, flowing attitude as the highest path. She could revere music, art, or the savior role. She could also be seduced by the victim and martyr roles, due to an overemphasis on self-sacrifice. She may need to learn that there is a considerable difference between self-sacrifice and self-annihilation. She could get into the habit of giving up too much of herself in order to help otehrs or to keep peace. She might expect all of life to be flowing, harmonious, loving and sublime, and suffer wretched disillusionment when the harsh realities of life catch her by surprise. She may be able to view the wprld with rose-colored glasses indefinitely.

With Jupiter in the twelfth, the person could idolize spiritual values to such an extent that she tries to apply them in areas of life where they are inappropriate, such as in human relationships. She may have completely unrealistic expectations of others. She might not realize that in an ideal world her ideas would be the norm; but we do not yet live in that ideal world. She could enshrine passivity, gentleness, and surrender. She could confuse total acceptance of what comes one's way in life with giving up. She might expect herself, as well as others, to always be empathic, sensitive and receptive.

Jupiter in the twelfth is another natural square. Zip Dobyns characterizes this type of combination as a clash between 'head goals' - what we think should happen - and 'heart goals' - what we feel would bring peace and love. An example of this is when an individual holds both human life and human rights to freedom of choice in reverence. Where, then, are the loyalties to go in issues such as abortion - the sanctity of human life versus the right of each woman to decide for herself - or the murder of an incredibly abusive spouse - again, the sanctity of human life versus the right of each human being to decent treatment? Another example would be when a parent has to make a difficult decision to discipline an unruly youngster. Hear heart may make excuses and try to be empathic, and may want to 'spare the rod and spoil the child'. Her head, however, may tell her the child will grow up to be irresponsible or selfish, and thereby unable to create a happy life, unless she is taught some fundamental lessons at an early age. The two sides, each with its own values, clash within the one person.

Sometimes this placement indicates someone who places an unhealthy amount of faith in God, with no expectation that she will ever need to do anything practical to take care of herself. Or, she could have unrealistic expectations of God and be dispapointed when she sees the unfairness and bleakness which is part of life on this earth, thinking that if there was a God, He wouldn't let such things go on. She may have God confused with Superman, and expect Him to be around to rescue all those who break the rules.

An exteme manifestation of Jupiter in the twelfth is total worship of the Truth - the individual's truth, that is - to the exclusion of all other considerations, including decency, integrity or other fundamental principles.

At its highest expression, Jupiter in the twelfth could symbolize someone who puts the mystical, magical and spiritual aspirations of the twelfth house into intellectual concpts which can be published and taught to others. It could indicate a person who values spiritual development to such a degree, and seeks it with such passion and hope, that she makes breakthroughs in understanding which markedly inspire others on the quest. She may use music, art, or inspirational writing as media through which she communicates important concepts from the unconscious.

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posted May 03, 2006 10:08 AM            

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Hi Aqua,

When Saturn entered Cancer 3-4 years ago it opposed all of your Capricorn planets one after the other. Thats a lot of somber activity.
You are still feeling the restrictiveness of Saturn because its in the sign opposite your Sun.

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posted May 04, 2006 03:41 AM            

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oh my god lalalinda !
i never saw this ! its a two years old string !

thank you so much for bumping it up !

one more thing i'll feel the restrictiveness of Saturn for the next 3-4 yrs as well?

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posted June 15, 2006 01:57 AM            

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can u tell me please .....?

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posted June 18, 2006 04:49 AM            

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Hi Sweetie,
When you have transiting Saturn oppose you Natal Sun it does drain your energy somewhat and grates on confidence.
Your Sun is part of a T-Square with the open leg being Leo and T.Mars and T.Saturn completing the square.
On the plus side you have transiting Jupiter (could be a blessing in disguise) conjunct natal Pluto who is already dignified by sign and house.
You know when you have an challenging period to work through and then when its over you look back on it as a nessasary and important period of your life.

With your natal Saturn in the 7th house (exalted) you will not have it in such a negative light. Don't worry the hard part is already over.

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posted June 20, 2006 02:44 AM            

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thanks lala u r truly wonderful !

what's T-Square ,T.Mars and T.Saturn ?

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posted July 29, 2007 12:17 PM            

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I am having a tough time......

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posted July 30, 2007 12:48 AM            

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d/p

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posted July 30, 2007 12:50 AM            

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Hi Sweetie,

Sorry to hear that you are having a tough time, I just checked your chart and you do have so much going on right now.

The Saturn opposition to your Sun (which is passing, but has still taken its toll)

Pluto getting ready to conjunct your descendant.

Transiting Uranus conjunct the MC

and transiting Chiron conjunct your Sun
we'll focus here

http://www.cafeastrology.com/chirontransits.html

Chiron-Sun Transits
Chiron transits to the Sun - Conjunct, Square, Opposition act to uncover fears and wounds with regards to our ego and our life path. We discover our "weaknesses" in the foundation of our very identity. Insecurities, fears, perceived failings, and unresolved issues about our sense of purpose in life are uncovered. In some cases, women experiencing these transits deal with issues surrounding their fathers and his effect on their identity and adult relationships with men. Our creativity, self-expression, and independence are questioned.

Look for Leo in your natal chart, as the Sun rules Leo, and this is an area of life that will be directly affected by the transit (in addition to the houses where the transit actually takes place).

Initially, circumstances in your life tend to make you feel weakened and ineffective in the world. There can be a feeling that you just don't have the courage to make it on your own, or to express yourself creatively. As the transit progresses, you begin to gather the courage to express yourself and your needs, and your doing so may surprise everyone around you! Chiron acts to pull up courage and bravery, but your initial expression of this newfound bravery may be so abrupt and unrefined that you seem to be acting completely out of character. During this period, you come fact to face with patterns that you have been repeating in your life, especially with regards to relationships with men (and/or your father figure), addictions, and co-dependency issues. Relationships with men that leave you feeling insecure or ineffective may be dealt with now. Addictions that undermine you may need to be dealt with. You may need to deal with your own wounded pride.

These transits may bring "teachers" into your life in some manner. With the Sun, these people who are very willing to offer you advice are often males. With hard aspects, you need to be careful about blindly following someone's advice at this time, simply because you are feeling weakened and in need of help. Later, you may resent the fact that you didn't stand up for yourself. You are bound to open yourself up to an entirely different perspective on your life, but be careful not to fall into the role of victim and let someone else "save" you. By transit's end, you will have uncovered your own power and effectiveness, and the decisions you made following someone else's advice may not look so good anymore!

Very commonly with these transits, you deal with others doubting your character, and you could feel like you're forced into a position of proving yourself. This may take place on either professional or personal levels. Your first reaction is to do just that—prove yourself to others. However, you eventually realize how fruitless this effort is. Others are likely to interpret this effort as weakness, and this can only exacerbate the problem. Eventually, you need to learn to stand up for yourself by not falling into a pattern where you are essentially "sucking up" to people. Ideally, you recognize that stepping back and letting your character speak for itself will earn you far more respect, as well as self-respect. In fact, self-respect is what this transit is truly about.

In contrast to hard Chiron transits, under Chiron transits to the Sun - Easy Aspects (Sextile, Trine), we tend to be looked upon favorably by others. We have the chance to shine, largely because we are projecting ourselves with self-respect and modesty at once.

You are especially appealing and charming during this transit just by being yourself. Opportunities—both personal and professional—are likely to present themselves as a result. You are not looking for credit for what you do, which frees you up to get it anyhow!

another one on Chiron

http://astrologyforthesoul.com/chirotrans.html

Chiron Transits

The following is my opinion, not Magi Astrology: When Chiron transits, you will tend to notice up to two primary things--one is easy, one is hard; both can happen under the same transit. First the hard: When a Chiron transit is hard, and you can't quite predict this based strictly on astrological guidelines, we feel thoroughly screwed by the universe, thereby receiving some tragic restimulation of a major wound; the particular quality of a Chironic wounding aspect is that it feels VERY UNFAIR. It's as if we're going along, doing everything we feel like the universe is guiding us to go, God seems on our side, and then, WHAM! God deserts you even though you thought you were being a good little boy or girl. So it really, really hurts. When this happens, there are two positive aspects of this cosmic betrayal. (1) We get a chance to feel the pain, the hurt, the humiliation, the sorrow, the yadda yadda; thereby we can consciously meet, feel, and release an ancient wound. (2) And I like this one, you can see Chiron acting as your spiritual guide, TRYING TO KEEP YOU ON YOUR PATH. You were probably going in the wrong direction. So Chiron pulls out a little tough love to keep you from straying in the wrong direction. When Chiron gives you the unfair wound, it's really important to ask yourself: What's this trying to tell me? What direction should I cease moving in? What is my spiritual guide trying to say to me?

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posted July 30, 2007 01:30 PM            

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thanks lalalinda....
that was really fast....
thank u

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posted November 14, 2007 06:44 AM            

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in delima.....a big one....can't sleep at nights !!

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posted November 14, 2007 09:25 PM            

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You want to talk about it Aqua?
If you would feel more comfortable about it you can e-mail me.
I really want to help you

(you can find my e-mail addy at the top of the astrology forum)

take care sweetie

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posted November 16, 2007 01:38 PM            

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thank you....
will mail you....

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