posted April 14, 2012 12:44 PM            

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posted April 14, 2012 01:15 PM            

*Neptune in the 1st::

(I spent a lot of time on this placement, because it makes important connections to your chart)

According to Liz Greene, "Where we experience Neptune, we feel helpless and impotent, for we are in the hands of powers greater than ourselves." I see that this is true in some instances, not true in others. I also like to look at Neptune as something greater than ourselves in a more positive light as well. There are 2 sides to this planet, but I like to imagine sometimes it's immersed in a watery well, so when we try to decipher if we are getting either the good or bad side of Neptune, we just can't make out what's going on. And then we feel helpless and alone. But Neptune recognizes our suffering, and one day, things will be OK. Once you clear your own feelings of anxiety and loneliness, the waves in the well will dissipate and clear. And you will look down and see that Neptune was never your enemy to begin with; it has neither a good or bad side. It was the way YOU were thinking, in fear and sadness, that made you believe it was hurting you.

For myself, I have Neptune in the 2nd. This has lead me to be anxious and feel powerless concerning stabilizing finances in life, when I struggled with family members having a hold over me financially. I felt Neptune here worked against me because I was a helpless child caught in a battle waged over inconsistent child support. But once I cleared my mind further and understood - it is not my place to worry, and it is not my fault this is happening - things got better in terms of anxiety. And I grew to have amazing creative abilities that will, you guessed it, help me solidify a career in the arts.

For you Ami, I believe you might feel this is a tough one because Neptune ended up in your first house. You may come off to others as intuitive, empathetic, and rather Piscean. Combined with the un-aspected Venus we've discussed, this can both help you and overwhelm you. You may end up attracting others who need to unburden themselves on you, or just have a lot of intense emotional and psychic issues, I'd imagine. Has this ever happened to you?

One area where Neptune might become murky with this first house placement is feeling lost in the sea of Piscean suffering you help others deal with. Suddenly, you recognize you are working out your own problems through helping someone else; this disgusts you. You might deceive or blind yourself into believing you have no problem. You might obsess over saving the suffering and become one who suffers in the process due to how heavily such a matter weighs on the heart. Perhaps one of these scenarios is true for you; maybe none? But with Neptune in the 1st, the big challenge for you is learning to counsel and heal without needing to be healed yourself during the process.

It seems like Neptune makes many stress aspects, particularly to your 10th house. I feel this could mean your personal 1st house self, your outward self, is at odds with your professional self? The self that works towards a stable social standing. Neptune squares Jupiter, Uranus and Mars. I know that Neptune squaring Mars means there is something hesitant in your action, particularly as you try to make career plans. You hesitate because you are unsure or anxious. You fail to believe in who you are, and this slows growth in your professional life; you imagine many different failure scenarios, maybe, and this keeps you from taking risks when necessary. I have Mars opposition Neptune, and Mars at 29 degrees. I often have these same issues with decision making myself. You need to learn to overcome these anxieties due to a vivid imagination of failure. The square Neptune makes to Jupiter only reinforces this. You might imagine so many great things about your career or future career plans, but lack the forthright attitude to peruse them due to Mars being stunted from Neptune. You must learn not to be too dreamy about possible career plans, so you can have a more stable professional life. You can maintain the exterior of an empathetic healing type, but do not let that Neptune seep into your 10th house to the point of having troubles!!

The way that you think seems to be influenced by Neptune as well. Neptune makes a harmonious aspect to Mercury. But it also semi-squares Venus. Your imaginative side is very clear when you participate in mercurial activities, like writing. Mercury is strengthened in Gemini as well. Do you enjoy writing anything concerning the mythical, fantastic or other-wordlyl? Obviously this aspect contributes to your interest in astrology as well!

posted April 14, 2012 01:19 PM            

I saw on the other posts that from your peregrine Venus, you felt your mother resented you somewhat at times, for being very loving and sociable?

This Chiron placement could contribute to those feelings. Your 'deepest wound' is associated with the early home life, nurturing and so on. You also mentioned you could relate to my feelings I had to my mom from my Moon-Chiron conjunction... well this is why. Chiron in the 4th behaves similarly to the Moon-meets-Chiron. The Moon traditionally rules house 4.

posted April 14, 2012 01:24 PM            

I have read that wherever Saturn is in the chart, it is our point of caution. Sometimes it is depressing to us. I can attest to this. Having a 3rd house Saturn, I spoke quietly for many years and once had a speech problem. Later when I outgrew this, I traded it in for spells of depression and extreme gloom and moodiness at times. I think very seriously. At my best, this manifests as someone wise beyond her years; at my worst, this is the girl who thinks obsessively and heavily especially of past matters, and is very gloomy. Saturn also squares the ASC.

For you, you have Saturn in house 2. This is not necessarily a bad thing, and better than many other placements, like house 3 or house 7. This means that you approach financial issues with caution and care, most of the time. You know that it is unwise to spend too much money, overcharge your credit, and buy things you do not need. The Old Man here gives you wisdom about managing money and finance, traditionally. You have the potential, if the rest of the chart permits, for a good amount of wealth. The down side is to avoid too much emphasis on materialism, so it doesn't take over your life. You could worry TOO much about it, and become anxious or depressed concerning finance when things don't go your way concerning it.

posted April 14, 2012 01:39 PM            

If, like me, you consider 3 planets the minimum for a stellium, then you've got one! In the 9th house in Gemini, you have three important planets clustered together: the Sun, Mercury and Venus.

The Sun is at a sensitive point: 28 degrees. Some astrologers say between 27-29 degrees is a difficult position for a planet. I have my Mars at 29 degrees, and I can admit this is true at times. For you, you have the Sun at a sensitive degree. It would be worse if your Sun was at 29 degrees though. Doing research, some online have said having a planet in 29 degrees means whatever sign it's in is 'exhausted' from going through the other decans, and it just doesn't have the energy to move onto the next sign.

Having the Sun in late degrees means you could have problems with indecision. Maybe you are absolutely sure of what you are going to do next week, but when next week comes, you totally change your mind. Gemini's weak points can be too much mental energy, gossip or anxiety. But there are excellent points about this position. Having a Sun in the late degrees of Gemini increases your chance of being a well-known and well respected writer! :3

When we overcome the negative aspects of a late-degree planet in Gemini, we get someone with tremendous mercurial abilities and possibly a famous writer.
http://milkywayastrology.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/planets-in-late-degrees-what-do-they-mean/

According to the astro.com chart, you have widespread conjunction between the Moon, the Sun and Mercury. According to basic research, this means your 'wants' and 'needs' are aligned. You feel no conflict in this area. This aspect gives you a good degree of sensitivity concerning what others need as well. I think this emphasizes your first house Neptune a bit. Your actions can be colored by emotion. You do things with your heart, and this is reinforced by the Moon's close conjunction to the MC. Others see this in you. They're drawn to you for this reason. One downside to this aspect is coupled with Mars in Cancer, you could be TOO emotional or attached to the past concerning what you do in life, especially with your career and thinking, since these planets fall in House 9 and Mars is in house 10.

Mercury and the Sun are conjunct. This is quite important... means you have much mental energy. You're a total Gemini type! Your mind is usually fruitful with ideas, and sometimes this nervous mental energy can be hard to contain. It's best to let it out through mercurial activities like reading, conversing and writing. This signifies you can be a great speaker, but maybe not such a great listener.

Venus in house 9 is a lovely placement, since it makes you want to reach out and form close relationships, sometimes romantic ones, with people from other countries. The Moon in the 9th is a double whammy! Are you very attached to other cultures? Do you enjoy studying them? Traditionally having Venus here increases the chance of finding love on travel or far from home. The peregrine Venus, as we've said, really gives you a lesson in life to focus on giving love and receiving love, and being a loving person.

What's very important about this 9th house emphasis is that you are very mercurial, take much from the sign Gemini in your personality, and are enlightened and delighted by travel, higher knowledge and possibly other Sagittarius activities. But with a stellium there are good and bad sides. One thing to remember is that you cannot always compensate for things in life through what you know. You can't fill an emotional void or something that bothers you through higher knowledge all the time.

posted April 14, 2012 01:45 PM            

This traditionally means power struggles in social arenas. Have you had a lot of power struggles with friends? Have your friends given you transformations, both good and bad? Have you been friends with one or more people who have really changed you, or have you really changed them? This can happen quite a bit with 11th house Pluto.

When Pluto meets the house of Aquarius, you are really going to bring change in the social sphere. The change you can bring, or feel from being in these places, is intense... all-consuming at times, and not always good or easy to handle.

Sometimes I compare 11th house Pluto to Saturn in the 11th house. Both seem to struggle with social arenas. Both don't always know what the best way to act is. Saturn has it worse though, since they sometimes avoid social sphere altogether.

On the positive side, the friendships you make that mean much to you will be intensely loyal and very strong. Usually you will keep them for years if not forever.

Do not allow a group to control you. Don't feel overpowered by the group. Assert your presence there, but civilly. It's important to avoid cults or weird group activities that just seem wrong... with this placement you are vulnerable to being dragged in.

posted April 14, 2012 01:55 PM            

You are very mercurial and a Gemini type. But the watery Cancer moon can soften your intellectual air. Yet at the same time, the Saturn-Moon connection will avoid you from being hysterically emotional...at least when many others are watching.

Your Neptune in the 1st requires some adjustments. Do not let the empathic healer in you inhibit your decision making, actions and your career path. You can have a personal image that correlates with a professional one. But Neptune is very watery and consuming, and it will try to take over 10th house matters through the stress aspects. Don't let it! You have a powerful Mars here in Cancer, and the Moon conjunct MC, which means your career will deal with the emotional and the compassionate. But you don't have to feel bogged down by Neptune in the process.

One thing I noticed is you are void of Earth planets.
A lack of Earth nature can be difficult in making logical plans and following through with them. You may have a tendency to be too dreamy and not earthy or practical enough. Some stress aspects from Neptune support this, like Jupiter square Neptune. Usually people compensate for lost elements naturally. I have no fire planets except Sagittarius ASC which does not count. So naturally I make up for this void element by acting like I DO have much fire in my chart! I really overcompensate for the lack of fire.

As for your chart type, I think you have a Bowl type? You have empty planets from house 3 to house 8. Save Chiron and the NN, you have half the chart without planets.
http://www.claytentylor.com/astronotes12.html

posted April 14, 2012 02:40 PM            

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posted April 14, 2012 03:00 PM            

OK --Venus semi square Neptune. Would this be a watered down version of Venus sq Neptune?

If so, would it make me see romance with rose colored glasses and get into bad situations because I could not see clearly? Then, would I wake up and say "Whaa?" lol

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posted April 14, 2012 03:01 PM            

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posted April 14, 2012 03:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
May I ask you some questions? These things are new to me, believe it or not, as I never do my own chart lol

OK --Venus semi square Neptune. Would this be a watered down version of Venus sq Neptune?

If so, would it make me see romance with rose colored glasses and get into bad situations because I could not see clearly? Then, would I wake up and say "Whaa?" lol

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I'm glad you liked the info!

That's perfectly OK too. I read my own chart over and over again, I always discover new things about it each time. It takes time to get to know your own chart well.

Yes... that would be a good possible description. Neptune seems to mystify and add a bit of deception to each thing it touches. In this case, Venus. So maybe in your case, you would put on those rose-colored glasses in a relationship due to Neptune's influence, and not see the faults of the other person, for example.

posted April 14, 2012 08:05 PM            

I was thinking today about Neptune in the 1st house sq Uranus in the 10th ( 1 degree) and sq Jupiter in the 10th( 6 degrees I think. Mars would not square Neptune as I would not count 9 degrees.

This is what I thought. Tell me what you think. Ok--Neptune in the 1st blurs identity. IT makes the person really have to work to feel a solid sense of self. So Nep in the 1st sq Uranus in the 10th may do this. Uranus shakes up career and one's tole in society. So, not having a solid self may make it very hard to ride with career ups and downs.

Jupiter in the 10th would give good fortune in career but a square to Nep in the first may make the blurring of identity make it such that one may feel either too enthusiastic or not enthusiastic enough when it came to career. One may feel that one can't regulate one's happiness or optimism as one's identity is not strong enough. What do you think? Maybe, you said this in other words

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posted April 16, 2012 06:07 AM            

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posted April 16, 2012 10:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
gottcha on Neptune semi square venus

I was thinking today about Neptune in the 1st house sq Uranus in the 10th ( 1 degree) and sq Jupiter in the 10th( 6 degrees I think. Mars would not square Neptune as I would not count 9 degrees.

This is what I thought. Tell me what you think. Ok--Neptune in the 1st blurs identity. IT makes the person really have to work to feel a solid sense of self. So Nep in the 1st sq Uranus in the 10th may do this. Uranus shakes up career and one's tole in society. So, not having a solid self may make it very hard to ride with career ups and downs.

Jupiter in the 10th would give good fortune in career but a square to Nep in the first may make the blurring of identity make it such that one may feel either too enthusiastic or not enthusiastic enough when it came to career. One may feel that one can't regulate one's happiness or optimism as one's identity is not strong enough. What do you think? Maybe, you said this in other words

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This are great insights. I would agree with a lot you've said here!

That lack of stable self from the 1st - since Neptune adds a sort of fog to whatever it touches - will definitely affect the career when it branches out to the 10th house. The fact that is squares Uranus makes it difficult for you to take on the ups and downs of your career, as you've said.

The 10th, besides the 11th or maybe the 9th, is probably one of the best placements for Jupiter. But with the affliction to Jupiter it can go either way: over expansion or under expansion. So in your case, it might be the latter, since it squares Neptune. A lack of clarity about who you are can affect your hope and optimism about life. Or as you said, maybe you feel like your identity is watered down by Neptune's presence, and this affects your career negatively.