posted April 22, 2012 03:59 PM            

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Originally posted by toptops:
Dear Jesuis,

I have been reading the story unfolding and the interpretations of the charts by Sweet Scorpion and felt as if I am there and can feel your frustration and anxiety. The way your heart and mind are torn between those two men ...I do unfortunately so well know how you feel.
Therefore I do sincerely wish you to find the right path in your heart and have the power to follow it!

Dear SweetScorpion, I do not want at all to troll in Jesuis topic so do PLS take a quick look into the one I made for you:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/003240.html

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posted April 25, 2012 12:30 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I've been studying astrology in a serious way since last September. I've had a lot of time to get really into it, and I found it came very naturally to me. It's been a joy learning it! I am so glad I can teach you something along the way too. It was an honor to help you with this problem. I feel really connected to you about this, and I'm always satisfied if I get that sense of mutual understanding when I help out with a reading. More importantly, I'm very happy I managed to be so accurate about things for you too!

Ah, I see. So maybe because his Pluto is in your 4H, he is being more covert and behind the scenes about it, like he wouldn't openly urge you to leave? Maybe he's just sending you hints with his behavior. It seems because his personal planets including Venus are squaring off your Mars, some of his more... brazen behaviors could be a way of forcing you to act. Like how you said he's being a player? That's his Venus squaring off your Mars in such a scenario, I'd think. He's trying to get you to act by being obnoxiously flirtatious to the point of you questioning his ability to remain faithful. The biggest challenge to face I think is: can he reign in the Leo a little bit? Although it'll be challenging, he can't act like an obnoxious Leo as a means of getting you to do something, like being with him in the relationship. He's taking the wrong approach when with you, a Taurus Mars. Taurus Mars won't be urged to act based on these Leonian behaviors: they'll grimace and stand their ground, refusing to move and feeling turned off by the brazen Leo behaviors. Do you see any truth in this for you two? I think for him, the lion in him needs to be chained in a little, if he wants to win your heart.

Honestly though, I think with any Leo person, a very Leo-ish person will act obnoxiously and very emotionally at times as a means of getting your attention. And that's what he seems to be doing. I know a Leo Moon in my family who will be that way to me when I am acting like a Virgo Moon and withholding emotion from them: they'll giggle, tease me, poke me (!), joke at me when I'm not laughing, throw things at me and laugh when I get annoyed, make weird funny noises, and they're FIFTY YEARS OLD. LOL. So as you can see, a Leo never really grows up. I') Haha, just kidding. Moon in Leo can act like a big kid sometimes, but the point is, when they're emotionally insecure that side of them comes out. So it seems with Guy #2, he's romantically insecure about the whole situation with you and his more negative Venus Leo traits are coming out. For Leo, that's their way often of alleviating tension or solving the problem. It seems like in this case, your new love interest is trying to rile you up by being a big Leo-esque flirt. He's using that against you, maybe to make you jealous even! Leos are often all about jealousy factors in the relationship... they love teasing and making their partner jealous, I've read. Except the issue is, that's not going work easily with a Taurus type like you. What do you think? Maybe I'm wrong, but maybe not.

I can definitely see the bratty Leo coming out with him ignoring you too. Don't worry - that's their way. They will do things like that to you, and it's infuriating. The Leo Moon person I was talking about earlier? They'll dramatically ignore me and breeze on by like they're in a lifetime movie or something (LOL I just get that vibe from them, they'll even have a painfully melodramatic face on) when I say after an argument with them, 'So you're never going to talk to me again?' And they purposefully ignore me, even refusing to say a simple no. They do the same thing! And for earthy types like you and me, it's not so easy to get into the dramatic mode that Leos oft operate on with relationships, especially with fighting and emotional withholding. Guy #2 might be acting this way because you haven't gotten together yet. It's almost like Leo-dominant people will act like the scorned, Byronic hero when they don't get what they want and expect the earthy types to come crying to them and keep them from walking away by clinging to their legs. 8'D But the truth of the matter is, they just... do that without really MEANING to hurt feelings. They aren't trying to push you away, they're trying to pull you in with these tactics. But the problem is like I said, more earthy types won't play into the dramatics, they'll just be like, OK I'm not dealing with this ******** , see-yah. And then the Leo is like, WAIT! Don't leave me, I actually did that because I love you. So, yeah. It's very muddling and emotionally confusing when you're dealing with a Leo-dominant person and you're quite earthy. You don't get their emotional nature at times... that's what *seems* to be going on with you and Guy #2. And it's definitely not the lack of attraction, it's more the confusion about what he wants. Do you agree? It makes sense that eventually because you refused to give in, he gave in first and admitted how much his feelings are hurt... that proves me theory a bit.

I agree, that this is a lot to take on. It's very difficult to deal with. I actually have never been in such a situation like what you have, only with my parents have I ever been torn. But thank you so much for offering to listen! No one has ever done that for me when I've given a reading, it is very sweet of you. <3 I was torn because of my parents and what happened with their new partners. Like my mother refused to take into account my hurt feelings over her weird new husband and left me with my grandparents because I refused to live with him. And I was right - I have a very well developed intuition, and he ended up unbeknownst to my mother being a real freak, a real strange guy who ended up committing suicide and leaving her alone. I never felt bad for her about him, because she ruined my life with what she did with this new guy. But I think in the case of you and your son and Guy #2, you won't do as much damage. If Guy #2 is normal, and not carrying baggage like strange habits and drug addiction (that was my stepdad, nice huh), and if he is ready for such a comittiment then I see no issue with it. I think what is missing between you two right now is a solid, logical conversation JUST about what could possibly go wrong if you decided to take the plunge and be with him. Discuss your fears openly if you're ready. See what happens. I feel you NEED to tell him these fears about your partner... Leo dominant guys can be surprisingly protective about these kinds of things, trust me, he's not going to turn you away about it. You should open your heart to him and express this if you have not already. Say the truth - that's why you haven't gotten together with him yet. Your partner seems to be a cold and more vindictive person and that's scary for you and especially your son. Just talk about it with him, IF you are ready to. I don't know what you two have talked about yet, so I hope I am not imposing.

I think what's worrying you is the security issue. You care even more about it for your son. Maybe if you and Guy #2 talk about this more, you will be able to find closure about it. I think it's certainly possible to do if you haven't already. I'm sure he'll understand, that's what's been holding you back. I think it could be more hurtful to him for you to say outright, 'Well you're basically just a kid, how can I count on you?' If I were you, I'd say, 'I want you to feel like you can still have fun in your young life... 20s are a big time to explore the world and get to know yourself better. So if you really want to do this with me, there is no backing out like 6 months later to go 'find yourself' like your friends, which is very unfair'. Or something along those lines!

LOL I hope I don't seem like a nosy agony aunt giving bad love advice! X'D I just really want this to work out for you. Because I feel if you two can work something out for the security issues, you could do well together. But you seem to have good intuition, so it's your call. What do you feel about it right now, and about what I just said?

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sweet scorpion, I hope everything is ok with you!?

I am seriously taking into consideration your advice, and working up the courage to arrive at the point of having a serious and honest conversation. I know that it is the right thing to do, for both parts, and something that is greatly needed.

My boyfriend called me yesterday telling me things are going to end between us if things keep continuing this way, that for 6 months now I have not been putting him before everything else, and or I improve things / myself, or they will end.

At the same time though, I feel like guy number 2 is quite young, and too young at the moment to take on such responsibility in life.

But either way, my boyfriend has been telling me for 5 years I need to change and to improve myself, hence the lack of ambition on my part as well for the last 6 months.. I have tried for 5 years, and sooner or later I can only be the person I am, and if that's not enough for my partner, then we should let it go.

posted April 27, 2012 07:18 PM            

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am seriously taking into consideration your advice, and working up the courage to arrive at the point of having a serious and honest conversation. I know that it is the right thing to do, for both parts, and something that is greatly needed.

My boyfriend called me yesterday telling me things are going to end between us if things keep continuing this way, that for 6 months now I have not been putting him before everything else, and or I improve things / myself, or they will end.

At the same time though, I feel like guy number 2 is quite young, and too young at the moment to take on such responsibility in life.

But either way, my boyfriend has been telling me for 5 years I need to change and to improve myself, hence the lack of ambition on my part as well for the last 6 months.. I have tried for 5 years, and sooner or later I can only be the person I am, and if that's not enough for my partner, then we should let it go.

I hope you are ok! And thanks again for your advice :-)

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Hey hun! I am sorry I have not been active with our thread for the past few days. I am going through major school issues, it's a total pain in the ass. I have to admit... school has been a serious issue for the past few years and due to other things it has come to a boiling point these past few months. It got somewhat resolved today but I am still a bit on the edge about it. I'm a typical H3 Saturn... issues with lower education. Which is very sad, since I am all about expansion with a H9 Moon, you know? At least my Moon reminds me I can do things beyond my crappy elementary education. I'm still a talented artist beyond the **** I've dealt with in school, so I think I have a good chance of doing fine despite switching a lot...

Anyway, enough angst.

I'm glad you are taking our conversations seriously and more importantly, I'm glad that they cleared up some muddled feelings and sadness. It seems you are taking this head-on and not backing down, this challenge in your life. Trust your instincts, and your intuition. Meditate on it! Don't feel that the Universe is pulling you along without you having your hand on the emergency brake - know you have always been able to brake, and you can control your own pace. It will all work out, somehow... I have been in so many terrible situations but having faith in this way and just looking at it objectively and philosophically has helped me a little bit. I'm sure it will help you too. It's best to feel in every situation but to shove all of your heart into something can lead to disastrous results unfortunately... especially with toxic people around you.

I think that you CAN and WILL have that serious convo. There is nothing superficial left. You are at the end. It's all or nothing now... and you both see that. That can actually be the best time to talk about such serious issues because your insecurities are probably a bit smaller than they were before, like when you first met and got involved, right? Just be honest and true to yourself most of all. Like I said, don't feel like you are out of control of yourself. Especially concnering this mean boyfriend, aka Guy #1 - don't let him take such control over your heart. It's your life, and you have the right to be happy but most of all HUMAN. You are human and not a machine, not a washing or cooking machine who should change for just one person who doesn't sound quite appreciative of your efforts any way! And in my opinion, for someone who is that critical, why bother anyway? Your heart only hurts in the end while they stay as cold as ice, for good. I feel the same way about trying to change for my family. I tried and tried and my heart got hurt while they have stayed the same. It just doesn't work.

You need to bring up these kinds of things with Guy #2. It can actually help to wear your heart on your sleeve in such a situation. And he seems like with all those Leo placements, that he would be mostly caring about it if you opened your heart up and had this serious convo. Leos can be surprisingly protective and sheltering when they want to be, even if you think they are prideful and too self-centered at times... I have seen it in action, I know. It is important to be straightforward and just say flat-out, 'I am not messing around... and this is a two part effort. You need to make an effort to make this work too. It just scares me sometimes that you seem flighty or at least, just indecisive about the commitment factor. But it's obvious you care for me since you have been just as fascinated with me as I have been with you for all of this time, such a long time. We should try to resolve the important down-to-earth issues and then depend on our strong connection to see us through the tough times.' Or something along those lines, you know? <3

I hope you are doing oK. I wish you all the best. If you'd like, tell me how everything goes.

posted April 27, 2012 09:30 PM            

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Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979:
Sweet-scorpion, I'm AMAZED by ur abilities in astrology! That was so nice what u did helping this woman *high five* lol is it possible that u could analyze some synastry for me as well in exchange for a simple tarot reading? I've asked here b4 but the issue I had was I can't post charts on here as I'm doing this from my mobile phone and it won't let me do that. So my options r 1) email the complete birthdates to someone or 2) post the info here then go back and edit my post and delete it lol I'm afraid to even ask bc I despise asking for this kind of help. I can check synastry aspects and go to certain websites and look up their meanings. But I can't do advanced like u. It doesn't come as natural to me as it does u. Let me know. Blessings to u.

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**** shyvirgo, you're stroking my ego... oh snap. Don't inflate it any further, it's going to burst today. LOL I've been on an ego trip lately, haha.

Anyway, TYSM! I really appreciate you saying that about me! It's very sweet of you. I've been getting more and more requests on here to do readings, so I have decided that soon I am going to set up an astrology blog and maybe charge for a reading and other astro services, like phone consults, and maybe even tarot readings... SCROOGE I KNOW. But man I am just broke with a capital B. So I figured, why not make a bit off my talents you know? BUT, any way I am not going to ask you to pay me anything, you're very sweet don't worry... and very awesome for encouraging me further to go through with making the serious astro blog!!

Here is what we can do. You can e-mail me the birthrates of the two people and I will make a synastry on astro.com. Then I will make a thread here called 'For ShyVirgo1979' and we can talk all about it! How does that sound?

posted April 28, 2012 02:32 AM            

your Gyu N1 being so demanding doesn;t really sound like a supportive and caring individual.I know from immediate personal experince that when the years go by the initial flairs fade away and sometimes resentment builds. Things that initially seemed bearable start to anger one more and more. Habit and everyday stress start to crowl under the doormat - although some would disagree with me.

I understand how you feel, asking yourself Ok, is that what I will be getting in the long years to come? I long for more... I am not just a mother to a sweet boy but a woman!

Heh dear, I am 28 so basicly your age and although I have no child I can pretty much find myself in what you share here. And my own five cents would be - don't give up on your happiness. The child deserves mother radiating with happiness and not a woman stayed in a relationship out of mistaken sence for duty. But I do feel the need to share one more thing. You see Jesuis, I am a Cappy Sun & Asc & Mercury. So I just need to point out that the Guy 2, your Leo flare is actually a young boy. ALthough mature on the outside pls take into consideration that he needs to grow on the inside. Don;t get me wrong, I absolutely second Sweet Scorpion - follow your heart, have the convo, see where it leads you, but stay concious.

Althoug I have to admin I have until now, 1,5 years already...not been following my own advice and fully revealing my feelings for my guy 2 I do know in my heart one should do it. But here is the basic conflict of my own persona - reason agains emotion and until now reason have always beaten the crapp out of emotion and sent it into the corner. Yet I have not lost all hope that one day I will overcome my protective and practical nature and jump into the rabbithole... How I will emerge out of there - well that is the 1 000 000 dollars question.

As to Sweet Scorpion - oh, it s*cks really when one is being held down and stopped by the unnececarities of the burocracy. You seem to be having it in school right now, I after four years decided it is time to write the finishing paper and take my Master degree from the university(I have long ago taken all the cources and passed the exams) but somehow doing the final push shifted down my priority list. And the setbacks and burocratic bulls*it I meet this past 2 weeks gets me really furious. Still SweetScorpion one can hardly fight burocracy, take a look at the Asterix movie The 12 tasks of Asterix ), http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtEkUmYecnk

Sweet Scorpion there is one more thing I posted for you on 22 APril - without sounding demanding and ungreatful could you probably take a look into what I have posted for you here http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/003240.html If you feel more confortable answering me in other way that is the e-mail toptops@abv.bg

Deep gratitude in advance!

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Originally posted by toptops on 22 April:
Dear Jesuis,

I have been reading the story unfolding and the interpretations of the charts by Sweet Scorpion and felt as if I am there and can feel your frustration and anxiety. The way your heart and mind are torn between those two men ...I do unfortunately so well know how you feel.
Therefore I do sincerely wish you to find the right path in your heart and have the power to follow it!

Dear SweetScorpion, I do not want at all to troll in Jesuis topic so do PLS take a quick look into the one I made for you:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/003240.html

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posted May 03, 2012 09:19 AM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Originally posted by Jesuis:
Hey hun! I am sorry I have not been active with our thread for the past few days. I am going through major school issues, it's a total pain in the ass. I have to admit... school has been a serious issue for the past few years and due to other things it has come to a boiling point these past few months. It got somewhat resolved today but I am still a bit on the edge about it. I'm a typical H3 Saturn... issues with lower education. Which is very sad, since I am all about expansion with a H9 Moon, you know? At least my Moon reminds me I can do things beyond my crappy elementary education. I'm still a talented artist beyond the **** I've dealt with in school, so I think I have a good chance of doing fine despite switching a lot...

Anyway, enough angst.

I'm glad you are taking our conversations seriously and more importantly, I'm glad that they cleared up some muddled feelings and sadness. It seems you are taking this head-on and not backing down, this challenge in your life. Trust your instincts, and your intuition. Meditate on it! Don't feel that the Universe is pulling you along without you having your hand on the emergency brake - know you have always been able to brake, and you can control your own pace. It will all work out, somehow... I have been in so many terrible situations but having faith in this way and just looking at it objectively and philosophically has helped me a little bit. I'm sure it will help you too. It's best to feel in every situation but to shove all of your heart into something can lead to disastrous results unfortunately... especially with toxic people around you.

I think that you CAN and WILL have that serious convo. There is nothing superficial left. You are at the end. It's all or nothing now... and you both see that. That can actually be the best time to talk about such serious issues because your insecurities are probably a bit smaller than they were before, like when you first met and got involved, right? Just be honest and true to yourself most of all. Like I said, don't feel like you are out of control of yourself. Especially concnering this mean boyfriend, aka Guy #1 - don't let him take such control over your heart. It's your life, and you have the right to be happy but most of all HUMAN. You are human and not a machine, not a washing or cooking machine who should change for just one person who doesn't sound quite appreciative of your efforts any way! And in my opinion, for someone who is that critical, why bother anyway? Your heart only hurts in the end while they stay as cold as ice, for good. I feel the same way about trying to change for my family. I tried and tried and my heart got hurt while they have stayed the same. It just doesn't work.

You need to bring up these kinds of things with Guy #2. It can actually help to wear your heart on your sleeve in such a situation. And he seems like with all those Leo placements, that he would be mostly caring about it if you opened your heart up and had this serious convo. Leos can be surprisingly protective and sheltering when they want to be, even if you think they are prideful and too self-centered at times... I have seen it in action, I know. It is important to be straightforward and just say flat-out, 'I am not messing around... and this is a two part effort. You need to make an effort to make this work too. It just scares me sometimes that you seem flighty or at least, just indecisive about the commitment factor. But it's obvious you care for me since you have been just as fascinated with me as I have been with you for all of this time, such a long time. We should try to resolve the important down-to-earth issues and then depend on our strong connection to see us through the tough times.' Or something along those lines, you know? <3

I hope you are doing oK. I wish you all the best. If you'd like, tell me how everything goes.

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