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Natsukashii
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posted April 28, 2012 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natsukashii     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know I should just let it be. But I keep seeing reminders of him and cant shake the feeling that I must write to him and say everything and then maybe, maybe this will end

Should I write the letter? How will he react?

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posted April 28, 2012 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tonia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello
i am not expert
as you can see in chart you are mars virgo AND MOON and he is venus in gemini no aspects.negative

you are in virgo sign in falls of venus (i don't understand this) because fall means dislike but maybe shows that you are dissapointed.
he is in gemini(venus) triplicity of saturn (your 3rd ruler) sympathize your message he has not other dignities

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posted April 28, 2012 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tonia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
also your 3rd ruler saturn and his 3rd ruler moon has a square moon in his 3rd ruler shows that he is open to communicate but with you there is a square moon is in early degree 0 so there are more events in future
moon trine uranus 4th house end of matter
square sun
trine mercury
sextile venus (HIM)
square jupiter
and the last aspect in 30 april moon sextile saturn
so i think that you could sent tomorrow

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posted April 28, 2012 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tonia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know why your ''message'' 3rd ruler is retro in 12th house however i think that he 'll react well venus trine saturn :/

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posted April 28, 2012 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He receives you in detriment, so he's mad at your or doesn't like you.

You receive him in detriment as well (his co ruler) so it's basically mutual.

The moon squares the sun, him in his 12th. I wonder if you want to call him out on some past deed. Anyway, it doesn't look like it will be well received due the receptions and the moon square and could hurt your rep.

You're also in via combusta, so you are very upset. Your 3rd house ruler receives him in exaltation, so you still have feelings that are hidden or you have some major secret anguish or betrayal you want to unload on him. It's possible this was an affair due to a lot of 12th house activity and him in gemini ruling duality, so maybe you want to call him out on that.

EDIT: Your co ruler, moon and his co ruler, Sun are in MR. You receives him more powerfully but he still receives you. However, you're aspecting him in a negative way, square, so it will be to both your detriment. Again, if I had more info I may know what this means, but it looks like an affair to me.

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posted April 28, 2012 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natsukashii     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello All

It was not an affair we met when we were both single and started as friends.I fell in love and as he didnt feel the same we parted Because I had missed him so much in the time before that I contacted him on the dating site where we had met under a different name. We connected here not romantically but as two people who could talk to each other in a profound way. I backed off when he asked to meet. I know this was wrong - I thought I would never see him again, I loved him and missed him

One day after a silence of 18 months he contacted me after I went back on the siteand we fell into a relationship. We lived together for a while but the relationship was nothing like I thought it would be. He had known somehow I think and used this 'relationship' to punish me. I knew only rejection and sorrow at this time

A year later he made contact again and treated me worse than before. When I told him I never wanted to see him again he revealed that he knew about what I did. I invited him to talk but he did not take me up on it. The penny dropped then. I wrote him and asked his forgiveness and said that I hope that he felt that this was over and that he had made me pay for my transgression in full and with interest. He did not respond

And so another silence of five months and he makes contact again. He said via email that he could come over if I wanted to talk. I told him that if it was for my benefit it was okay, I had dealt with it and moved on and that was that. I asked his forgiveness and wished him well

He has always been the one to reach out, pushing open the door everytime I try to close it. I dont hate him. I dont know if he hates me. He is probably very upset that I chose not to take him up on his offer to talk

I want him to be happy and feel that if I write this letter without actually meeting him we may both put this behind us and move on


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posted April 28, 2012 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natsukashii     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I posted a related horary question here, maybe it will help provide context and perspective
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/003208.html

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posted April 28, 2012 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natsukashii     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And thanks everyone for all your insights so far.

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posted April 29, 2012 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay. It still is as I said. I think it will end up badly, but I also think (from what you've said) that you'll end up doing it anyway.

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posted April 29, 2012 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natsukashii     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump...maybe some of the horary pros can add soemthing?

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posted April 29, 2012 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got the impression that you need to write and express how you feel, even though you might not send the letter/e-mail. Your 3rd house ruler Saturn is Rx and you might regret sending it when it goes direct. It is also in the 12th so perhaps it should stay hidden. But dealing with your anger and your frustration should be addressed. I think you should put it all on paper to let it out, but wait a bit on sending it to make sure you really want to do it. I think its position in the 12th speaks of the psychological issues you need to acknoledge about this situation.
It seems like it is over between you, even your communication rulers are separating.

If I may add something here... I think that you are reminded of him because you need to focus on the things he has taught you about yourself, indirectly. I understand you need closure, but to get there you need to understand why this affected you to such extent.

Please be well, Natsu!

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posted April 30, 2012 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natsukashii     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Hera...

How did you know that I dont feel well inside...? I don't and you are the only person to have picked that up

I am in so much turmoil right now. I wake up every night in panic, my heart pounding. I wish I knew what to do. I feel like I am damned if I do and damned if I dont. I dont want to get back together with him as I dont think things will change. But I feel that maybe if I can connect with his higher soul and we can understand how this all happened and why, we can move on. I am afraid of him, afraid for him, afraid for me, afraid for us.

Beneath it all I feel he is a good man with a great soul that just needs to find its way. But I am so afraid that he will crush my spirit that has worked so had to be strong. I did wrong and it doesnt matter that he did worse. I added to his pain. I want to fix it.

Maybe I should wait a month or so and ask again. Do you think that is a good idea Hera?
Thanks for being there


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posted April 30, 2012 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Think you should at least wait. Moon early degrees, main sigs in states of change, NN is very close in degrees to mars seems like a disaster waiting to happen.

The moon is so early.... There is so much waiting to happen, don't start with something u will regret.

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posted April 30, 2012 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Natsukashii:
Thank you Hera...

How did you know that I dont feel well inside...? I don't and you are the only person to have picked that up

I am in so much turmoil right now. I wake up every night in panic, my heart pounding. I wish I knew what to do. I feel like I am damned if I do and damned if I dont. I dont want to get back together with him as I dont think things will change. But I feel that maybe if I can connect with his higher soul and we can understand how this all happened and why, we can move on. I am afraid of him, afraid for him, afraid for me, afraid for us.

Beneath it all I feel he is a good man with a great soul that just needs to find its way. But I am so afraid that he will crush my spirit that has worked so had to be strong. I did wrong and it doesnt matter that he did worse. I added to his pain. I want to fix it.

Maybe I should wait a month or so and ask again. Do you think that is a good idea Hera?
Thanks for being there


Many hugs, Natsu! I am here if you want to talk. I think there is a lot of boiled up emotion that needs to get out and Moon in Leo exagerates it and drives it to paroxism. You should definitely find a way to let all of that out. If you feel like writing, do it. Music always helped me. You need to release the anger and the guilt in order to forgive him and yourself as well. You clinging on to his memory is a sign of panic that you will be left alone and empty without him, but that is just an illusion, you will actually be better and stronger without him.
I agree that you should at least wait. Time is a great healer. This man seems toxic for you and only time will help you to get him out of your system and keep him out when he wants back in.

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posted May 01, 2012 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natsukashii     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you dear Hera


I will start on that letter and maybe simply writing it as you said will help. And if and when I send it I will probably ask you if thats okay about the timing. Today I will close the door put on some emo music and write...

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posted May 01, 2012 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natsukashii     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you dear Hera

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posted May 01, 2012 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you write, Natsu? How do you feel?

You're very welcome, Natsu! I am really very sorry that you are going through this suffering! Warm hugs!

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posted May 01, 2012 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natsukashii     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Hera

I have started it...its difficult but cathartic....and music is helping,I will keep you updated on my progress.

Love and Hugs,

Natsu

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posted May 01, 2012 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Natsukashii     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by appleberry:
Think you should at least wait. Moon early degrees, main sigs in states of change, NN is very close in degrees to mars seems like a disaster waiting to happen.

The moon is so early.... There is so much waiting to happen, don't start with something u will regret.


Thanks Appleberry


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