posted May 28, 2012 03:29 AM            

My natal:

His natal:

Notice we both have similar moon aspects! I thought that was strange. We both have Moon opposition pluto, (and in the composite too.) Moon trine Neptune (again in the composite) and Moon in Taurus.

posted May 28, 2012 03:39 AM            

Essentially, he is a mystery to you; but it's more like you can not understand his emotional nature or motivations. There's a feeling (for you) with this aspect, that he is concealing some critical element of his emotional self - and you can't connect. He senses this discomfort or mistrust and it puts him in a state of overcompensation; which only adds to the sense of disconnect for you both. For him, the House person, it is as though you have something to prove to him about the value and integrity of your emotional nature.

Direct quote: "if this overlay is involved in the environment of an intense romantic/sexual interplay...the persons may come together for self-gratification, but once that is achieved, an atmosphere of distrust and uncertainty will reappear."

His moon is falling in your 11th House? I'll doublecheck - and add to the list of other aspects...

posted May 28, 2012 03:49 AM            

His Sun Sextile your Moon
His Mars Conjunct your Pluto, 5th House.
His Saturn Conjunct your Pluto, 5th House.
His Venus Trine your Mars.

I will absolutely get back on these aspects - but I will be frank: I'm not seeing a synastry which is speaking volumes for long-term good energy here.

I've had lots of long-term relationships wherein my 7th house his Mars in conjunct my Pluto - and it is always painful for us both...but usually to my own obsessive detriment. Dunno if you've begun to feel that - but if it's early on, and you think you could - I'd walk away and make do with the friendship.

Sorry to put it bluntly - I hate it when I hear it like that myself - but I've had enough of that Pluto/Mars bit to make me weary to warn you.

Warmth - and I will take time to delve into this tomorrow with the depth you deserve. So tired now.

posted May 28, 2012 03:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Wild Places:
Your Moon in His 12th House: (I'm distilling and paraphrasing as I am new to this, but...)

Essentially, he is a mystery to you; but it's more like you can not understand his emotional nature or motivations. There's a feeling (for you) with this aspect, that he is concealing some critical element of his emotional self - and you can't connect. He senses this discomfort or mistrust and it puts him in a state of overcompensation; which only adds to the sense of disconnect for you both. For him, the House person, it is as though you have something to prove to him about the value and integrity of your emotional nature.

Direct quote: "if this overlay is involved in the environment of an intense romantic/sexual interplay...the persons may come together for self-gratification, but once that is achieved, an atmosphere of distrust and uncertainty will reappear."

His moon is falling in your 11th House? I'll doublecheck - and add to the list of other aspects...

I swear - those moons being conjunct there probably lessen that feeling - but it would still be there.

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I'm very okay with friendship from him. Very okay. I used to think I wanted to date him but you know, I have Gemini ASC. I need someone who stimulates my mind, and he doesn't at all. To me I see him as a "good 'ol boy."

Yes, you know what you're right!

posted May 28, 2012 11:29 AM            

AND - that Pluto/Mars/Saturn conjunction is right on the cusp of your 6th House. Service to others may be feeling stronger than romance here because the other aspects aren't adding up and, perhaps with Mars transiting in Virgo so long here - this is naturally the purpose for your relationship. Looks like you two could do something creatively together out of the office if you want to know him better as a friend, and be of some help to him. Just be sure to be clear you appreciate his friendship and drop lots of light 'Hey friend...' messages...

I swear...guys never get it. LOL.

posted May 28, 2012 01:04 PM            

I wanted to know if it matters that it's HIS moon conjunct my neptune, or my mercury... I kind of wondered if that means he'd be willing to put me first (I know that's an individual choice, but aspect wise?) all the time?

Composite-wise we have Sun in Pisces, Moon in Taurus (on TOP of both our Taurus moons) and Gem ASC. We have Moon opp. Pluto in the composite. But Moon trine Neptune as well, and Sun conjunct Jupiter.

I think what it is is I feel the ease in this a lot, but no weight to it because there's no Saturn. I think given with time we would be more important factors in each other's lives, but it seems like something that could go either way.

posted May 28, 2012 03:06 PM            

I do see a Neptune/Venus conjunction - so let's look at what this means:

"The Venus person will feel a certain sot warmth and uncriticality toward the Neptune person, seeming almost unable to respond with other than a tolerant smile and reassuring tone. The Neptune person will respond to the pleasing image of the Venus person, finding beauty and value in what is perceived to be the inner person, regardless of whether a perception of physical beauty if created. This conjunction usually results in the wishing the best for eachother and being willing to speak up in defense of the worthiness and deserving qualities of the aspected person."

posted May 28, 2012 03:32 PM            

Venus trine Mars: He definitely likes you and is sexually attracted. The harmonious energy of the trine helps him to potentially conceal this somewhat - so be sure to be gentle with his feelings and use the "Hey Friend!" approach with him until you feel differently (if such a time approaches)...

His Venus your 8th House:
Another indicator this guy thinks you're absolutely the stuff fantasies are made of. The Venus person in this situation experiences a "response...as if the house person is somewhat a channel through which the most deep and hidden sources of pleasure can be realized..." In this case, he would have a part of him - and I think with the Neptune/Venus conjunction and Venus/Mars trine even moreso - that wants to just give in and let go to whatever you want - in order to satisfy you. There is a perception here (being 8 house) that somehow loving you, intimately, could transform you.

This overlay for you, does not produce the same intense feeling of potential transformation...it's more as though you can sense his vulnerability and the sort of "Goddess" worship that is happening here...who could help but fantasize about being worshipped and plugging into that?? Even if you don't find him completely attractive, his attraction to you could compel you to go there.

posted May 28, 2012 04:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Wild Places:
His Venus trine Your Mars; His Venus your 8th House, Your Mars his 1st House:

Venus trine Mars: He definitely likes you and is sexually attracted. The harmonious energy of the trine helps him to potentially conceal this somewhat - so be sure to be gentle with his feelings and use the "Hey Friend!" approach with him until you feel differently (if such a time approaches)...

His Venus your 8th House:
Another indicator this guy thinks you're absolutely the stuff fantasies are made of. The Venus person in this situation experiences a "response...as if the house person is somewhat a channel through which the most deep and hidden sources of pleasure can be realized..." In this case, he would have a part of him - and I think with the Neptune/Venus conjunction and Venus/Mars trine even moreso - that wants to just give in and let go to whatever you want - in order to satisfy you. There is a perception here (being 8 house) that somehow loving you, intimately, could transform you.

This overlay for you, does not produce the same intense feeling of potential transformation...it's more as though you can sense his vulnerability and the sort of "Goddess" worship that is happening here...who could help but fantasize about being worshipped and plugging into that?? Even if you don't find him completely attractive, his attraction to you could compel you to go there.

Your Mars, his 1st House:
"The Mars person perceives the house person to be an ego-enhancing partner in tat there is considerable physical attraction and a sense that, by any standards, the house person would be seen by the world as a reflection of the Mars person's capacity to attract a desirable consort. This is just as true in non-romantic relationships..."

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posted May 28, 2012 05:06 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
So is there anything that indicates how this individual would pursue me specifically? It took us 7 months to start talking partly because he's shy and I never believed it, and partly because I couldn't get up the courage to talk to him either. Lol we were both shy. My friend is so frustrated with both of us 'cause we're baby stepping everything.

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My first instinct is to look at the inconjunct aspect between your Venus/his Mars. Inconjunct aspects typically work well when we have a common project or goal to achieve. Without that - there is little to understand. Venus being the WE and Mars being the ME - you can see that off-the-bat, you two wouldn't mesh. It's as though you may have felt inadequate to him, and his style of being (particularly the machismo you keep referring to), just like different languages...

Therefore - you'd be reticent to express anything to one another.

posted May 28, 2012 05:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Wild Places:
My first instinct is to look at the inconjunct aspect between your Venus/his Mars. Inconjunct aspects typically work well when we have a common project or goal to achieve. Without that - there is little to understand. Venus being the WE and Mars being the ME - you can see that off-the-bat, you two wouldn't mesh. It's as though you may have felt inadequate to him, and his style of being (particularly the machismo you keep referring to), just like different languages...

Therefore - you'd be reticent to express anything to one another.

I'll take a look at the composite to see what my overall impression is. Based on synastry - I'm still saying: leave it as friends. We can try to turn brass into gold - but it usually doesn't work.

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I did, I did. I do everytime I see him, but it goes away when we start talking. I wonder if he feels inadequate to me in some way, too. Mentally maybe? And yes different languages. It's VERY hard for me to just slooooow down in my stories, my energy, etc. compared to his Cappy energy.

I thought his Venus was trine my Mars? ETA: Ah, I see. Yours/His mix up!

posted May 28, 2012 05:28 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
How's our composite?!

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The composite even expresses the workplace is the purpose for this relationship. However, the Mars in the 4th House, even in business relationships, can speak to a general level of long-term disagreements and feuds of basic principles and values. The Moon in the 12th House here also speaks to an inability to merge on an emotional level.

If you can step outside of yourself for a moment, and imagine two business partners who have a thriving business, yet are always at odds with eachother in terms of how to treat their employees or clients, which direction to steer the business long-term -- this is what I'm getting from the Moon and Mars which, while the Moon is in a soft, sextile to the Sun, Merc, Venus - Mars is all alone, Oppositional and looking for a fight (Squaring the Moon).

Additionally, I see the North Node of this composite is the 11th House: Friendship is the Higher Path to pursue for you two. It is not so easy as a quick and dirty, short-lived romantic (5th House) relationship would be. But this confirms the synastry as well. Keep him a friend, and see what your genius minds come up with - I can understand your mutual friend probably knows more than you about how he feels; and sees you acting unlike yourself around him - so wants to play matchmaker...

But this is not your match, darlin'.

Saturn/Uranus: 7th House Composite:

Uranus is in the 7th House Composite one for innovation, regardless of the type of relationship. This can be a double-edged sword - it can be wildly fun with its lack of limitations (in a romantic relationship: open relationship; business: i'm thinking freelance) - but it also lacks stability that most would want to experience in the 7th House of Relationships - thus the double-edge. What once was fun and cause for celebration, when it's downside becomes apparent (jealousy, job security, etc) - if one/both partners try to rope this energy in - it creates an absolute upheaval expressed in the form of agitation and arguments. Note this is squaring Mars and Venus.

Saturn:
Everywhere I look - I get different views on Saturn in the 7th House Composite/Synastric. It's annoying - I wish astrologers would come to concensus on this...

One take: Saturn (Kronos - Time), lends to a feeling of fatedness and long-term success in partnerships.

The other: Saturn (Karma), lends to heavy lessons and drags down the relationship.

Meh...Saturn. Strikes me the Jury is out on this gorgeous ringed planet. I honestly think Saturn should be Libra's ruler: it is truly the most balance planet of all - it's lessons are poignant and bittersweet, karmic and fated. But for some reason - it was attributed to Aquarius (my sign),...until Uranus was discovered - the perfect fit! Now, Saturn we identify most with Capricorn. The steadfast teacher. You figure how much of that you want in your relationships - and I guess apply whether that is good or a bad thing in the 7th House Composite/Synastric.

I'm chuckling at myself over here - and thinking, a) I'm getting this, and b) I should start writing this stuff down on a blog or something.