posted June 05, 2012 09:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Can someone please give me their imput as to why tarot gives consistentaly positive results/outcome but action and or the situation is still the same. At a standstill?

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posted June 05, 2012 10:15 AM            

I got a reading done in person by random... And i asked what msg are the cards willing to give me...

And again my main cards popped up.

King of pents
Queen of pents
Hierophant
Sun
Nine of pents
6 of wands
Hermit
Wheel of fortune

posted June 05, 2012 10:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Diana:
If you're not using reversals that could be the reason for positive even though it's not. Are you using reversals? If not, try it with.

If you're using reversals then maybe you're too close to the situation. That happens to me so I ask someone else for a reading.

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posted June 06, 2012 04:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Can someone please give me their imput as to why tarot gives consistentaly positive results/outcome but action and or the situation is still the same. At a standstill?

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Personally I see Tarot as an exchange of energy. If you are strongly hoping for an outcome, then that is most likely what will be seen in the cards (even if you're not physically touching them. Your energy is picked up just from the way you speak/write.)

There's also a chance the outcome will be positive, but may not happen in the length of time provided for the question. Or it's one of those perspective shifts - what seems like a crappy situation now will prove to be a valuable lesson in the long run, thus "positive."

posted June 06, 2012 06:23 AM            

I like your explanation, but why is it wrong to ask the same question too frequently other than the outcome probably will not change.

However having said that if free will is involved surely the outcome can change with the same question?

posted June 06, 2012 07:40 AM            

Iam not at a point where iam ready for marriage, atleast not this year, so i dont think i have asked the cards if i will marry J or if he loves me... Just what i can expect next from him...

i dont question the love... But Iam usually in a state of confusion or angered.... Never hoping for a positive ourtcome just looking for an answer.

I should have mentioned that alot of swords ands wands pop up.

And like ms Hanna has conluded for me, its ego/ communication issues.

Part 1 of a much needed heart to heart, lots of clearing up a few huge big misunderstandings, I think now the Tarot results should be interesting. Iam very curious.

Maybe i should be asking what obstacles face him and i?

@Hera,

Iam so sorry for your heartache babe. I know its not much but fate did you a favour. Imagine if you were married to him when the pregnant woman re appeared...
It would have been much worse

Be well. You are strong. Stronger than you give yourself credit for.

posted June 07, 2012 09:36 PM            

I am glad to be back and looking forward to reading for you (and others) regardless of how many times the question has been asked.

But I read your question about how Tarot works today, and why the same cards show up - regardless of the outcome - and what that means...I have a couple of thoughts:

I think sometimes we read and are read for - and because of how we put the question to even the best readers - even they can't see the forest through the trees to shake out a different message. Does that make sense? It's connected to the idea of your energy influencing the outcome - but I feel that the cards are a conduit for us to get information from the Universe, Source, whatever you want to call it - that cosmic oneness we are all part of. And so, it is important to be incredibly specific. (Which is why clarifying cards and/or further card pulls to ask more detailed questions is a technique I use until I get a clear sense the reading is done for the time).

Additionally - I agree with others that sometimes we get the same cards repeatedly because they resonate or the energy of the card vibrates so much to what is going on still - or a lesson we have yet to pull from the situation - even one which has passed.

For a long while, after my ex and I split - I pulled 3 of Swords Rx, 9 of Swords Upright, and The Empress. I was clinging to my past, broken-hearted despite all of the work I was doing to detach, remorseful and blaming myself for my part rather than forgiving of myself, and isolating myself from intimacy by nurturing and sheltering everyone around me. Lonely time.

I haven't read for myself yet - but I know I'm going to get different cards. When others read for me - the Queen of Pentacles comes up, and the Page of Cups. More often than not. It took two+ years - but I don't get those other cards anymore - nor do I dread them. I don't identify with them anymore than they with me. Does that make sense?

SO...
Before your next reading that you do for yourself - perhaps write down some very specific questions about yourself, your life path, J's influence and purpose, timing cards, etc.

That's how I'll be reading for you!

posted June 07, 2012 10:14 PM            

As always you are amazing

I've missed your energy around LL.

I hope you got the much needed tlc and fun with your friends that you deserve. Iam sorry to read about your own personal heartaches. Aaah love is no picnic sometimes. I hope you are in a better place now.

Other than guidance, I honestly don't know what to ask anymore.

I was doubtful at first but shyVirho 1979 called it last night... Right now Iam feeling the 10 of swords energy. It's an internal feeling an extension of my significator card she pulled for me, the 2 of wands.

Iam not really concerned with marriage right now, since first we have to cement a very very solid foundation for that to be even possible... As a future possibility outcome that is awesome. But in no hurry to manifest it in my life this year. I also need time to save for a dress lol

Also, I don't doubt his feelings. Maybe the depth?! I dunno, maybe its my cancer moon vs his gemini moon lol maybe i need too much.. But love is not my major concern.

Are these good specific questions?

Why did J come back to M (me) after 4 years?
What is J's purpose in M's life?
Is J serious about M?
What are J's hopes and fears in regard to M?

Why the delays, stagnation between J and M?

posted June 07, 2012 11:02 PM            

I've got a Cancer Moon too - sometimes, I feel Bi-Polar or something, but overall, I'm incredibly greatful to have my emotional state be dignified! Ha! It's the only planet in my Chart that's in the Right Sign and Right House. So, although I totally understand that feeling of "I must just need too much" - I've come to realize it's the opposite "I am just worth this much!". And when I truly ACCEPT all of myself, forgive ALL of myself, LOVE every beautiful imperfection - I am entirely worth any amount of emotional outpouring that I know my soul-mate will recognize and cherish as well. First me - than the others.

So much for posting on the other thread...I really wanted to tell you that. No, wait...there's something else. That K. who wants you back in his life but is in another relationship...that's unacceptable for romance; but shouldn't be for friendship. Although I realize some people cannot be friends with ex-lovers, particularly those who've hurt them. Part of forgiveness of ourselves and being ready for the BIG LOVE (I'm truly learning) is also forgiving others. Like, really letting it go. I forgive you, I accept you, I love you. Doesn't mean you want to embark on a relationship with that person; but him cropping up is a great opportunity to heal that past for your own benefit and his. To truly resolve it and clear that icky stuff out. So you'll be ready for whoever the lucky fellow is that gets to be the father of your children.

Open your heart - let the love flow in and out. Be open to trusting what the Universe is showing you - and realizing we can't possibly understand the master plan - we can get glimpses, and we can manifest though! Snap!

posted June 07, 2012 11:45 PM            

i have already forgiven the past with K. I told him that already when we last spoke in late feb/early april. I told him that i understand where i went wrong, and that this is me accepting it (his curiosity as to why i never pursued him after we broke up)

J also knows i forgave him from our past past ( 4 years ago) and the reason i can be with him is because iam ok with our past.

posted June 08, 2012 03:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Blue light:
Heera

I like your explanation, but why is it wrong to ask the same question too frequently other than the outcome probably will not change.

However having said that if free will is involved surely the outcome can change with the same question?

sorry if this is a bit garbled x

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Hi and sorry for the late reply!

Well one should not abuse the cards. Aside from being a bit disrespectful to the cards (because you don't trust the message), it can cause confusion. The outcome might be similar or different. When it is similar, it leaves little room for doubt, but when it is different (it sometimes describes a different aspect of the situation that was not covered with the first reading or maybe your energy is different or might just be random), it really causes confusion.

As with any divination tool, it is best to be used as a guide, not a deciding factor in your life - yes, you have free will for that one!

posted June 08, 2012 03:13 AM            

Thank you! I know it was in my best interest, but didn't seem so at the time, felt like the end of the world. It was a big turning point in my life, one I don't think I have fully recovered from.

posted June 08, 2012 03:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Blue light:
Heera

I like your explanation, but why is it wrong to ask the same question too frequently other than the outcome probably will not change.

However having said that if free will is involved surely the outcome can change with the same question?

sorry if this is a bit garbled x

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posted June 08, 2012 08:07 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Because Tarot is mostly a reflection of what you already know, but cannot verbalize or it's the subconscious being brought to the surface. When you ask the same question repeatedly, you're going to get garbled answers because at that point you're not receptive - you're concentrating on getting the answer you WANT to hear rather than what you need to hear, or what is the reality (which is one in the same thing.)

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posted June 08, 2012 10:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
@June

Thank you! I know it was in my best interest, but didn't seem so at the time, felt like the end of the world. It was a big turning point in my life, one I don't think I have fully recovered from.

How are things going on for you? Not much left from the retrograde, hopefully things will clear themselves out!

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