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Phoenix
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posted June 15, 2012 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Phoenix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,

Could someone have the kindness to understand why this person left? We were together for 9 years and have a small daughter, and I know everything ends but I'm shocked that one day he cries that he loves me and some months after he says he doesnt love me for 6 years.

Is it possible that he didn't love me all that time? Is it possible that we being together was a mistake and not meant to?

I'm grateful to anyone who wants to help me here.

We have some saturn stuff, but we need it, since I have venus-saturn natally and he has cap asc.

The uranus stuff feels nice too.

Mars is horrible. Composite Mercury squaring neptune shows open dishonesty (he cheated by saying at first that he cheated me and then saying he didn't. At the end I consider he cheated me since he is dishonest and has done things I consider cheating).

Composite moon and venus squared by pluto almost destroyed everything.

But I love him but am not saying I would take him back.

Here ae the charts. Thnx.

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posted June 15, 2012 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Phoenix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*Bump*

Kind regards

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appleberry
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posted June 15, 2012 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I'm not that great at interpreting these charts for others but I'll give you some helpful things.

First, here's a helpful link to help you look at your own synastry chart.

Another good thing to do is look at the progressed composite chart for the date the separation happened between the two of you. That might give some insight if you look at what was going on.

Finally, you might want to look at the composite chart together with the transits for when you separated.

Posting the progressed and the composite+transits might be helpful for other readers as well.

PS: one more thing, consider the fact that Venus is Retrograde right now. If Venus is prominent in his chart, he might have reconsidered the relationship. Venus will go direct and shadow at the end of the month and then a bit later will be out of the shadow. Maybe things will be different then. You should try to read some things about Venus Rx for your own benefit, to see what may have instigated something in this break. Oh! I just looked at him in the synastry chart- Sun, moon and a few other things in Libra... I think he was probably very affected by the Venus retrograde.

Good luck!

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appleberry
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posted June 15, 2012 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've heard that relationships that go the distance, in synastry have either: Sun, moon, mars or venus conjunct Ac or Dc of one or both of the people.

You don't have this in synastry but you have both mars conjunct ac and sun conjunct dc...

Just pointing this out, though someone else might have more to say about it.

Maybe Venus and Moon in the 5th of your composite were great for your initial romance, but for long term commitment, I don't think they are especially great. The honeymoon can wear off I suppose.

From your composite, I would assume that the love was real, but maybe the sun in the 6th is a problem? That feels like a weak position for a relationship in a sense because it's a work position, great for daily routine though. Maybe things got boring?

I'm guessing Neptune square Mercury always caused confusion and illusion in communication, Uranus square sun was always fun but unstable, and mars opposite sun always caused ego problems. There may have been a lot of passion but in the end a lot of conflict and anger?

Cafe astrology and, I think, x-files have good links for reading about these things.

Here's one link: http://www.cafeastrology.com/composite_chart_planetary_aspects.html

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posted June 15, 2012 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Phoenix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by appleberry:
Well, I'm not that great at interpreting these charts for others but I'll give you some helpful things.

First, here's a helpful link to help you look at your own synastry chart.

Another good thing to do is look at the progressed composite chart for the date the separation happened between the two of you. That might give some insight if you look at what was going on.

Finally, you might want to look at the composite chart together with the transits for when you separated.

Posting the progressed and the composite+transits might be helpful for other readers as well.

PS: one more thing, consider the fact that Venus is Retrograde right now. If Venus is prominent in his chart, he might have reconsidered the relationship. Venus will go direct and shadow at the end of the month and then a bit later will be out of the shadow. Maybe things will be different then. You should try to read some things about Venus Rx for your own benefit, to see what may have instigated something in this break. Oh! I just looked at him in the synastry chart- Sun, moon and a few other things in Libra... I think he was probably very affected by the Venus retrograde.

Good luck!


OK, I appreciate your answer. This is possible at astro.com?

Gratitude

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appleberry
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posted June 15, 2012 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, you want one of the "partner progressions".

I guess you can't directly do the composite plus natals but progressing a chart is basically adding a day for every year. This is kind of difficult to explain. Might as well just leave it. Partner progressions are enough.

I guess you could do a natal chart for the date/time that the separation happened so at lease people could see what the transits were exactly when it happened. They would have to compare charts though. This is more work for both parties though.

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Phoenix
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posted June 15, 2012 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Phoenix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, this is our progressed composite chart:

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I'm posting the transits at the day he left, with his Natal Chart, altough you're right it means more work for who's watching this.

I realise tr venus and moon were conjuncting his natal venus?

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posted June 15, 2012 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just quickly glancing at your progressed composite... so many hard aspects for everything with Mars, Saturn and Neptune... could things be harder? almost everything is a challenge right now. This is an EXTREMELY difficult period for the two of you, and with more than half of them applying to exact aspect, more challenges to come. Don't think so much personally about this relationship I guess. It looks like it would be better for both of you to move on I suppose. The challenges look unbearable and there are definitely more pleasant relationships out there. Life is hard enough and the challenges within ourselves to deal with, without having to deal with an unbearably hard relationship outside of that. I hope you can move on from feeling like there was no love at one point and taking it so personally. The relationship as a separate entity is what a composite is and it too changes with time. This one changed into something that probably didn't support either one of you.

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posted June 16, 2012 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Phoenix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by appleberry:
Just quickly glancing at your progressed composite... so many hard aspects for everything with Mars, Saturn and Neptune... could things be harder? almost everything is a challenge right now. This is an EXTREMELY difficult period for the two of you, and with more than half of them applying to exact aspect, more challenges to come. Don't think so much personally about this relationship I guess. It looks like it would be better for both of you to move on I suppose. The challenges look unbearable and there are definitely more pleasant relationships out there. Life is hard enough and the challenges within ourselves to deal with, without having to deal with an unbearably hard relationship outside of that. I hope you can move on from feeling like there was no love at one point and taking it so personally. The relationship as a separate entity is what a composite is and it too changes with time. This one changed into something that probably didn't support either one of you.

I'm sorry I answer just know but it was middle of the night and I felt asleep :/

That composite chart is progressed at the date he left. I never doubt it has been love from my side, but he says he didn't love me for 4 years, then changed to 6 years (now almost 7), then changed to 4.. I don't know, I tought he loved me at least an year ago, but I think that doesn't matter now, he excluded me from his life, email, facebook, msn, gmail, he has a new girlfriend, and I know I loved him and I know I have love to give.

I'm grateful you're answering me, I've already posted some weeks ago our charts in some astrology foruns, concerning he have an applying aspect between our composite mc and tr uranus wich is a trine.

Thanks for helping me

***EDITED***

I've noticed that those hard aspects in our progressed had always been there but with much wide orbs. The big difference is the moon that was less afflicted. I've put my astrology studies aside when I started this relationship. If only I knew what I was doing lol

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Phoenix
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posted June 16, 2012 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Phoenix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've just read the part about venus rx.. I have sun and venus at gemini and I can tell I felt venus coming into gemini a LOT.. Venus has been dancing between my venus and my sun causing lots of pain I guess..

But since my hubbie left months ago and he didnt make any change during venus rx I guess we wont be doing it after the rx has passed.. He had faith in this venus rx. But I've read that it's a good time for me to heal.

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