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Topic: Have i been called to Write?
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frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 499 From: yep,ks,usa Registered: Apr 2011
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posted June 19, 2012 09:48 PM
I have always been a pretty good writer - my teachers and professors always told me so. I'd rather do an essay test than a multiple choice test. I love to write, but I NEVER thought about using it in my future career or anything. I never had any interest in doing it recreationally or as an art form. I've always been more focused on my visual art (drawing, sculpting, photography, etc).Lately, though, I've had the incredible urge to start writing fiction novels. I've had a few great story ideas for a while and feel so compelled to write fiction. Why? Why is this happening now? I'm 25 and, while knowing I can write, never wanted to do this before. So I'm not sure what type of reading I'm asking for..just anything you pick up on. Maybe a tarot reading would shed some light on WHY I feel like writing fiction novels and short stories. I hope someone can help me figure out what I should do and if it's really worth pursuing. IP: Logged |
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 1200 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted June 19, 2012 11:18 PM
Been there done that. I was 16 when I first started writing short stories. Then... at 20 I started writing my first full length fictional novel. Every person in this world has visible or obvious talents and hidden talents that are undiscovered or undeveloped. The obvious talents are discovered usually by our enviroment (friends, family etc) and usually they are dicovered at a certain age. The hidden talents unfortunately are harder to be dicovered early in life and truly developed because its our duty as individuals to do so. It depends on our capacity to awknoledge that we arent limited regarding talents and other skills and that in fact the only who can limit us is or ourselves in base of what our enviroment say or other things like money, fear etc. There are some people who discover that they like to write and want to be writers way later in life and there others like us who discover that in their 20'. They point of all of this is once you discovered and unleash a hidden talent of yours don't give up on it. Why don't you post your natal chart to see what we get from there? IP: Logged |
frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 499 From: yep,ks,usa Registered: Apr 2011
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posted June 20, 2012 01:16 PM
Rosalind - thank you for your thoughts. Here is my chart, so maybe it can help someone give me a reading: IP: Logged |
friture Knowflake Posts: 65 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted June 20, 2012 07:48 PM
I've just been reading this: http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/rosemurray/NovelistArticle.html This is my novice take based on aspects from this article: You have Mercury conj Neptune, that can mean an imaginative mind. Your 3rd house is ruled by Saturn, which is placed in your 2nd house, this may indicate earning an income from writing. Your 9th house is ruled by Moon, which is also found in 2nd house, and conjunct Saturn, which further hints at getting published successfully. But I have no answers to why you feel so compelled to start writing at this moment. For me, I'm guessing the recent Jupiter in Gemini transiting my 3rd house.
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frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 499 From: yep,ks,usa Registered: Apr 2011
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posted June 21, 2012 01:07 PM
i like your analysis, friture! i see what you mean by the 3rd house ruler in 2nd being a good hint at success...i hope it's true hehe IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 481 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 24, 2012 03:31 AM
To be a successful writer, you need one thing: perseverance. Not talent, strangely enough, but the desire to write on a schedule, day-after-day, no matter how terrible so many of those drafts will be.I completed my first fiction novel at 15, the sequel to it 6 months later, and the prequel that following year. Learnt to write short stories in college. Completed about 6 novellas between my first trilogy and beginning college. Began my first septology sophomore year ('01), completing the fifth in the series in '06, and planning the final two last year ('11). to date, I probably have about 12 short stories total, 2 plays, 3 audio drama projects, 2 pilot teleplays, 1 screenplay, and currently my first TV drama in development. But writing is something I've been doing since I was 6. I'm a writer in every since of the word. But I've yet to actually sell or publish due to intense perfectionism and my productivity tanking in the past few years, with a steady decline. In order to be SUCCESSFUL, and make this a CAREER, I suggest you live the advice of Steven Pressfield (and pick up his books 'The War of Art' and 'Turning Pro' respectively). Talent is wonderful. But the way you make it is with solid, unremitting, hard work. As Pressfield says, 'Do the work. The muse favours those who put in their time.' I wish you the best of luck. If you're serious about it, then you can't dabble. Simple as that. -A.
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IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 481 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 24, 2012 03:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by friture: I've just been reading this: http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/rosemurray/NovelistArticle.html This is my novice take based on aspects from this article: You have Mercury conj Neptune, that can mean an imaginative mind. Your 3rd house is ruled by Saturn, which is placed in your 2nd house, this may indicate earning an income from writing. Your 9th house is ruled by Moon, which is also found in 2nd house, and conjunct Saturn, which further hints at getting published successfully. But I have no answers to why you feel so compelled to start writing at this moment. For me, I'm guessing the recent Jupiter in Gemini transiting my 3rd house.
Not necessarily. That conjunction to Saturn just emphasises that it's going to take a lot of work. But, again, that's true for ANY writer. I have a packed 3H in Scorpio, and Pluto's in my 2H conjunct my Sun. It's unsurprising as to why I've chosen this career path, and everything I've written I've done so with 'productivity' and 'salability' somewhere in mind. Only until recently did I decide to pay more respect to the actual process of creating the art. I'm a lot happier now. My 9H is ruled by Venus in the 12H. It's not true that I won't be published because of this, but that most of the work I've created has been relegated to my hard drive since a certain point. I've also been plagiarised terribly. Venus isn't afflicted, however; sextile Mercury. My work has easily created a following somehow. I always somehow manage to create a buzz with some good networking and promotion. Curiously, that Mercury is conjunct Eros and Lilith. I write transgressive fiction. That became my genre in the late '90s, which I switched from espionage thrillers and sci-fi. But not permanently. These days, my work is dark, transgressive, wry, and challenges the established stereotypes and tropes. (Oh, yeah. You bet Uranus is there.) -A.
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IndigoDirae Knowflake Posts: 481 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 24, 2012 03:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by frankie2912: I have always been a pretty good writer - my teachers and professors always told me so. I'd rather do an essay test than a multiple choice test. I love to write, but I NEVER thought about using it in my future career or anything. I never had any interest in doing it recreationally or as an art form. I've always been more focused on my visual art (drawing, sculpting, photography, etc).Lately, though, I've had the incredible urge to start writing fiction novels. I've had a few great story ideas for a while and feel so compelled to write fiction. Why? Why is this happening now? I'm 25 and, while knowing I can write, never wanted to do this before. So I'm not sure what type of reading I'm asking for..just anything you pick up on. Maybe a tarot reading would shed some light on WHY I feel like writing fiction novels and short stories. I hope someone can help me figure out what I should do and if it's really worth pursuing.
As to why NOW, look at transits and progressions involving the 'creativity asteroids'. http://tribes.tribe.net/asteroid_astrology/thread/49136b66-10dc-48ef-8286-82f4abe122b9 Clio for fiction in general, Melpomene for horror / thrillers (drama), and Thalia for comedy. If this is really your 'thing', I'm going to expect they'll be prominent in the natal, too. (Melpomene's on my Merc-Eros-Lilith in the 3H, and Clio's on my Sun-Pluto in the 2H.) For me, it seems to pretty clearly spell out what I do: write transgressive fiction, which is quickly becoming my 'signature' as a writer. -A.
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frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 499 From: yep,ks,usa Registered: Apr 2011
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posted June 25, 2012 09:01 PM
Interesting! thanx for the link about the Muses ..i generated my chart with those asteroids and these are the aspects i got:Clio in Virgo, 10th house, trine Sun and Neptune Euterpe in Taurus, 7th house, trine Sun and Neptune, opposite Pluto Melpomene in Libra, 12th house, sextile Uranus Polyhymnia in Leo, 9th house, conjunct MC, trine Moon and Saturn, sextile Chiron Terpsichore in Libra, 11th house, square Sun and Neptune Thalia in Capricorn, 2nd house, conjunct Mercury and Neptune (not sure why astro.com says it's not conj. my Sun, since my Sun is only 2 degrees from my Neptune.) Urania in Leo, 9th house, conjunct MC and Polyhymnia, trine Moon and Saturn, sextile Chiron What do you think is my most obvious muse? Thalia? Hmm..the only thing in my 3rd house is Erato but it makes no aspects to anything. here's that list of Muses from the link for quick reference.
quote: CALLIOPE – journalism, technical writing, documentary, research, astrology, artist, painterCLIO – historian, teacher, historical novelist (either technical or creative writer) – this could also be a spot in the natal where your ‘claim to fame’ lies. ERATO – definitely those inclined to write romantic/adult content novels and the like. EUTERPE – the musician on all levels, from classical to punk, radio , DJ, composer MELPOMENE – acting, singing, psychotherapist, social worker, horror/thriller author POLYHYMNIA – acting, therapist, poet,gardening, natural therapies, alternative practices, mystic TERPSICHORE – dancer, massage therapist, physiotherapist, fitness trainer THALIA – TV personality, comedian, comedy writer, URANIA – astrologer, psychic, mystic, priest, artist, painter, photographer
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andstuff Knowflake Posts: 69 From: United Kingdom Registered: Jun 2012
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posted June 26, 2012 06:07 AM
Hi Frankie,Just to say I agree with Friture As for being successful, here's a recent conversation w someone who was super-successful: 'sometimes less talented people make it quicker' - 'i've seen it happen' - 'why of course you have' Ultimately the first priority is to decide what is important to you. Obvs you could go all market conscious and cater to the industry, go to parties and meet the right ppl, who knows what else... It does not necessarily have anything to do with your relationship with the absolute. A sellable product is often good, but it doesn't mean an unsellable product is always badly conceived and crafted, even though tons of individuals would prefer to think otherwise. Apart from what Friture mentioned, seen your NN? I guess becoming an author/creator of something would be beneficial with this placement. IP: Logged |
frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 499 From: yep,ks,usa Registered: Apr 2011
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posted June 26, 2012 04:40 PM
My NN..in Aries in the 5th house. the 5th house is pretty creative isn't it? is my NN my destiny?IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 69 From: United Kingdom Registered: Jun 2012
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posted June 26, 2012 05:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by frankie2912: My NN..in Aries in the 5th house. the 5th house is pretty creative isn't it? is my NN my destiny?
I was referring to the fact that it's Aries as well as the fact that it's in the 5th. Do you know much about nodes? http://northnodeastrology.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/North%20Node%20in%20Aries moving from Libra to Aries is all about becoming individualistic as opposed to partnership and relations with other ppl. and the act of creation is all about being super isolated. the act of becoming an author of something is kind of beneficial for sense of identity. plus yeah the 5th. IP: Logged |
FireMoon Knowflake Posts: 290 From: Minnesota Registered: Mar 2012
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posted June 26, 2012 07:50 PM
Hi frankie, I really have no clue as to what to look for in a chart for signs of being a writer, but I also want to use writing in my career and have the same Sun, Moon, and Mercury signs as you so maybe that's a sign of some kind lol but anyway I guess the first thing I noticed in your chart is that you have sun tightly conjunct Neptune which I would think would be great for writing especially fiction, poetry, etc… anything that allows you to express your creativity and depth…Anyway I guess my only advice if you really want to pursue it as a career as others have said just be willing to be patient and work hard/consistently at it. Also if you want to sell your work build up a good portfolio for yourself. Start a blog, look for magazines or journals that are looking for freelancers or that you can submit work to, enter contests, whatever really, anything that’s online or that’s been published can be used in a portfolio. Then there's the process of actually submitting your work to publishers which is more difficult and I wish I had more info on. From what I understand though it's good to market your own work through social media and get yourself an agent (maybe? lol) Also, there are a few websites that are meant specifically for new writers wanting to get their work out. You can basically submit your stories along with other new writers, and the ones that become most popular with readers will be looked at by publishers… I’ll try to come back and post links for these if you’re interested IP: Logged |
FireMoon Knowflake Posts: 290 From: Minnesota Registered: Mar 2012
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posted June 26, 2012 07:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: To be a successful writer, you need one thing: perseverance. Not talent, strangely enough, but the desire to write on a schedule, day-after-day, no matter how terrible so many of those drafts will be.I completed my first fiction novel at 15, the sequel to it 6 months later, and the prequel that following year. Learnt to write short stories in college. Completed about 6 novellas between my first trilogy and beginning college. Began my first septology sophomore year ('01), completing the fifth in the series in '06, and planning the final two last year ('11). to date, I probably have about 12 short stories total, 2 plays, 3 audio drama projects, 2 pilot teleplays, 1 screenplay, and currently my first TV drama in development. But writing is something I've been doing since I was 6. I'm a writer in every since of the word. But I've yet to actually sell or publish due to intense perfectionism and my productivity tanking in the past few years, with a steady decline. In order to be SUCCESSFUL, and make this a CAREER, I suggest you live the advice of Steven Pressfield (and pick up his books 'The War of Art' and 'Turning Pro' respectively). Talent is wonderful. But the way you make it is with solid, unremitting, hard work. As Pressfield says, 'Do the work. The muse favours those who put in their time.' I wish you the best of luck. If you're serious about it, then you can't dabble. Simple as that. -A.
IndigoDirae, Writing is also something that I love to do and have always done and have always been told I’m good at and should pursue as a career. I didn’t see this as realistic at first but I’m now in school getting my undergrad degree in International Relations and Journalism (pursuing news writing). Journalism is definitely not a field that necessarily allows for creative expression to shine, but it’s simplistic and straight forward and something I feel like I could realistically pursue as a career. Anyway, I think I’ll always do other forms of writing on the side just because I enjoy it, and have been looking for ways to possibly use my other work as well… I think it’s really fascinating that you’ve written so many short stories, drama projects, screenplays, etc. and I would love to hear your inside perspective on the industry If I start a new thread in this forum would you be willing to look at my chart and give your perspective and maybe answer some questions about writing as a career? If not no worries! It’s just really interesting to hear from someone who’s doing this as a professional! IP: Logged |
friture Knowflake Posts: 65 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted July 05, 2012 10:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by andstuff: Hi Frankie,Just to say I agree with Friture As for being successful, here's a recent conversation w someone who was super-successful: 'sometimes less talented people make it quicker' - 'i've seen it happen' - 'why of course you have' Ultimately the first priority is to decide what is important to you. Obvs you could go all market conscious and cater to the industry, go to parties and meet the right ppl, who knows what else... It does not necessarily have anything to do with your relationship with the absolute. A sellable product is often good, but it doesn't mean an unsellable product is always badly conceived and crafted, even though tons of individuals would prefer to think otherwise. Apart from what Friture mentioned, seen your NN? I guess becoming an author/creator of something would be beneficial with this placement.
Aha! I missed the NN. I was so fixed on writers = 3rd house I completely forgot about 5th houses.
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friture Knowflake Posts: 65 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted July 05, 2012 10:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: Not necessarily. That conjunction to Saturn just emphasises that it's going to take a lot of work. But, again, that's true for ANY writer.I have a packed 3H in Scorpio, and Pluto's in my 2H conjunct my Sun. It's unsurprising as to why I've chosen this career path, and everything I've written I've done so with 'productivity' and 'salability' somewhere in mind. Only until recently did I decide to pay more respect to the actual process of creating the art. I'm a lot happier now. My 9H is ruled by Venus in the 12H. It's not true that I won't be published because of this, but that most of the work I've created has been relegated to my hard drive since a certain point. I've also been plagiarised terribly. Venus isn't afflicted, however; sextile Mercury. My work has easily created a following somehow. I always somehow manage to create a buzz with some good networking and promotion. Curiously, that Mercury is conjunct Eros and Lilith. I write transgressive fiction. That became my genre in the late '90s, which I switched from espionage thrillers and sci-fi. But not permanently. These days, my work is dark, transgressive, wry, and challenges the established stereotypes and tropes. (Oh, yeah. You bet Uranus is there.) -A.
I find what you wrote interesting! I've no idea what transgressive fiction is till now! Thanks for introducing me to something new. I meant the Saturn conjunction - Saturn is his 3rd house ruler, Moon his 9th, hence a close connection between his 3rd & 9th = Luck in achieving publishing success. Is it okay to interpret it that way? Or am I wrong? Hehe, I am still learning, any insights would be welcomed.
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frankie2912 Knowflake Posts: 499 From: yep,ks,usa Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 05, 2012 07:16 PM
i really appreciate the input, everyone! but just the clear something up...i'm a girl IP: Logged | |