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Sorcha
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posted July 14, 2012 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, here are the charts:

First Meeting Chart:

And transits to my natal when we met: (Note that the scrubbed out asteroid is his name conjuncting transiting NN)

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Dreaming111
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posted July 15, 2012 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure! This will be insightful.

I knew from the beginning something big was going to happen with him.

I was a different person around him.

I'll post my charts tomorrow.

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posted July 15, 2012 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know the time of when we first met. I'm looking for it.

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Sorcha
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posted July 17, 2012 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aw. That's too bad. We could still look at transits though if this still interests you

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posted July 19, 2012 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found it! Why did you delete it?

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posted July 19, 2012 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Get this I just realized we met 10/10/10 at 10:49pm....

So weird, I think I'm looking too deeply into it. But now, finally, I can post a chart.

So put yours back up. :P

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posted July 19, 2012 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah! I thought you lost interest! Will put mine back up ASAP. Either Thursday or Friday. Busy week and on my way to sleep!

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posted July 20, 2012 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorcha can you walk me through how to get the charts? Which charts will we be studying?

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Sorcha
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posted July 20, 2012 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I put up our first meeting chart, so it's based on the exact time when you met the person. It's like a natal chart for your meeting and usually can tell you the themes which will be present in your relationship. Mine turned out to be very accurate and I definitely can say that totally see the value in first Meeting charts.

The second is just my natal chart with the transits for the day we met

I am off and running again - super busy week for me but will come back to this later this weekend. In the meantime, maybe you can load your charts with photo bucket so we can compare. I'd like to see if there are any Neptune similarities.

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posted July 21, 2012 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I see.
So the date we met is like a natal chart in itself of our r/s. This seems interesting. Ok, I'll post it tonight.

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posted July 21, 2012 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't upload. I'll try again later.

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posted July 21, 2012 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1248am     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been wanting an mini explanation of a first meeting chart I have...there's actually 3 but once one of them is explained i'll catch on and be able to do the other two. Where is a good place for me to post the chart? Thank you <3

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posted July 21, 2012 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it would be best to start a new thread on personal readings.

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posted July 21, 2012 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WE FIRST MET:


EXPANDED TABLE OF ASPECTS FOR THE DAY WE MET:


MY NATAL & TRANSIT:


HIS NATAL & TRANSIT:

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posted July 21, 2012 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok so I finally got it done.

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posted July 21, 2012 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I noticed the following with both of our "day we met" charts:

- The 5th and 6th houses are very active.

- Your AC-DC is virgo-pisces; my IC-MC is virgo-pisces.

- Both our chiron and neptunes are in the same houses. I think this might be a the main factor to being painfully deluded or watching a fantasy float away. Of course the guys would have felt this too. Haha. I guess...

- Both our true nodes are in capricorn.

- Both our plutos are in capricorn.
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**The odd thing about my venus transiting scorpio is I met him during the venus in scorpio retrograde. Natally he has a venus retrograde as well. And the day we met he initiated the contact. Maybe his venus was activated at that time and I fulfilled the need for that type of venus? I'm not sure.


**On a side note both of us are Cancer-Gemini cuspettes. :P

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posted July 21, 2012 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to come back and look at this more fully later. I'm feeling a bit off today but I did notice a few interesting things - first of all, our natal Suns are one or two degrees apart. Yep, that's interesting about the Virgo/Pisces axes.

I had transiting Karma conjunct my natal Karma/Pluto and you had Transiting Pluto/Karma opposite your natal Karma. Hm.

You had transiting Uranus squaring your natal Neptune. Venus (ruler of your 12th house) was squaring your IC (your root) as well as squaring your natal Venus which conjuncts your MC. Venus also rules your 7th house of partnerships so given that Venus rules both your 7th and 12th, it's sort of like having the energy that rules your partnerships (7th house) as well as your intuition (12th house) being challenged by that same energy/itself.

I also have a 7th/12th connection. The natal ruler of my 7th house (partnerships) is Jupiter which resides in my 12th house (intuition). Transiting Neptune is squaring my natal Jupiter (partnerships) and also opposing my natal Mars which is the ruler of my 12th house (intuition). So the energy that makes up my 7th house (Jupiter and Neptune) is in conflict with the energy which rules my 12th house (Mars). Also, I had Uranus (widely) squaring my natal Neptune too.

I think that the 7th and 12th houses, because they are inconjunct naturally, often make for a confusing way of relating to partners. It can get foggy and unclear, although never has my intuition been so wrong.

Just from this cursory look, I suspect that the fact that our 7th and 12th house connections being squared/challenged by Neptune probably had something to do with being very wrong about what our guts were telling us.

Edited to add: Yeah Chiron and Neptune together make for an interesting combo, however they were transiting your 4th and they were transiting my 10th. Still, opposing houses. I'm actually not sure what effect Chiron/Neptune would have together. Burt we did both have Chiron squaring our natal Moons and my Moon is in my 12th conjunct my SN so that probably didn't help matters.


Thoughts?

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posted July 23, 2012 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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Dreaming111
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posted July 23, 2012 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:

I'm going to come back and look at this more fully later. I'm feeling a bit off today but I did notice a few interesting things - first of all, our natal Suns are one or two degrees apart.

Yeah, maybe we have the same temperment. Can you post something about your ex? His natal chart with his transit? Maybe we were attracted to the same thing?


Yep, that's interesting about the Virgo/Pisces axes.

I guess that might add to either our need of perfection and security? Maybe we seek these aspects or in your case you probably express this.

I was more open with him because I knew he was a virgin and saving himself. I was attracted to the fact that he was very discerning about who he would enter into a relationship with. I felt I was safe from the headache of being with a man who makes poor choices and has no standards. But ironically his need for perfection did get a tad annoying; he has venus in virgo.


I had transiting Karma conjunct my natal Karma/Pluto and you had Transiting Pluto/Karma opposite your natal Karma. Hm.

This is very very interesting. I didn't take notice of it then. I did feel the relationship opened my eyes. However I feel it makes me more stubborn to go out and get exactly what I once intended to find. It strengthened my resolve. One thing though, around him I was soooo weak. Maybe I was meant to experience that sort of weakness. I've never felt that impressionable and vulnerable. I'm normal a very strong person. So I guess this has to do with my needing to learn life lessons, and for that, I am glad I did experience the whole thing no matter the result. I learned a lot.

He definitely was not the type of man I would fall for, but I "couldn't help it". I felt it was meant to be.

You had transiting Uranus squaring your natal Neptune. Venus (ruler of your 12th house) was squaring your IC (your root) as well as squaring your natal Venus which conjuncts your MC.

When I met him, I was trying ot distract myself from family issues. I did feel unloved and disillusioned.

A few days later on account that I needed to vent and didn't think that he would ever be a large part of my life....I "tried" to vent. I mean I tried as in I was being very vague and evasive. He's a psychologist and stated that his friends run to him for advice. I thought he would be a could random person to let my steam off in front of and also maybe learn a few insightful tools. He "tried" to help me.

But eventually he was my comfort and he filled the gap for me. He made me feel loved when I hadn't had that in a while. Actually I was craving to feel loved. I felt extremely unloved at the time.


Venus also rules your 7th house of partnerships so given that Venus rules both your 7th and 12th, it's sort of like having the energy that rules your partnerships (7th house) as well as your intuition (12th house) being challenged by that same energy/itself.

I was confused about family when I met him, so maybe it was that. Feeling unloved but then again still loved, because they are after all family. I didn't really see sparks flying with this guy, we barely knew each other. So I don't know if I would put so much importance on him about these aspects as I would put on my family with whom I was experiencing these said aspects.


I also have a 7th/12th connection. The natal ruler of my 7th house (partnerships) is Jupiter which resides in my 12th house (intuition). Transiting Neptune is squaring my natal Jupiter (partnerships) and also opposing my natal Mars which is the ruler of my 12th house (intuition). So the energy that makes up my 7th house (Jupiter and Neptune) is in conflict with the energy which rules my 12th house (Mars). Also, I had Uranus (widely) squaring my natal Neptune too.

What was going on in your life when you met?
Did he fill some sort of gap for you? Was the venus about him or about other people?

Or did you feel a spark with him, something deeper than you felt with any other man? Maybe he shook your life around for a reason.

I think that the 7th and 12th houses, because they are inconjunct naturally, often make for a confusing way of relating to partners. It can get foggy and unclear, although never has my intuition been so wrong.

That day though I wasn't at all focused on men. It was all about family and career. It was a tough time like I said. I had no energy nor interest to pursue a r/s. This guy wasn't all too special when I met him. He simply grew on me.


Just from this cursory look, I suspect that the fact that our 7th and 12th house connections being squared/challenged by Neptune probably had something to do with being very wrong about what our guts were telling us.

Now that I think about it though. I've never felt a connection like that with anyone in my life. Yet, it was my first time falling in love. Maybe this was the reason I was open to his influence or energy. You know you really set me thinking about this.

Well you may be right. I'd love to see your guy's chart for the day you met. I think however that days natal transit is too weak to tell the story of the entire r/s?

There has to be more. Maybe like you said the birth of our r/s. The first time he started taking interest in you or better yet the first time the both of you felt a deep connection. I had that there were a couple times I thought...he was reading my mind. We had so many spooky coincidences. I felt he was a male version of me. But that was much later when I started to get to know him.

I think we sould also consider the composite, the energy we produce together.

I still think though you are on to something with the 7th and 12th house connection. Maybe it caused us to be more open and receptive to these men? Maybe it caused us to sense a underdeveloped area within us so that we ... went searching for what we needed most?



Edited to add: Yeah Chiron and Neptune together make for an interesting combo, however they were transiting your 4th and they were transiting my 10th. Still, opposing houses. I'm actually not sure what effect Chiron/Neptune would have together. Burt we did both have Chiron squaring our natal Moons and my Moon is in my 12th conjunct my SN so that probably didn't help matters.


I can be emotionally volatile. My chiron is in a sucky position....lol 7th house. Oh well. It does cause me the most pain.

Do you have issues with your mom or don't feel that motherly instinct showered upon you? Maybe there is just some sort of distance be it emotional or distance.

I have has issues with my mom... maybe this is the reason why.


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posted July 23, 2012 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this on neptune and chiron online:

"neptune and chiron"bring the higher self into space and time" where we can become both grounded into our true natures under Chiron's influence, and fully aligned with our higher self (Neptune) at the same time.


When Chiron and Neptune are working together, they combine to assist with the work of the soul. The body, the mind, and the ego are all most interested in living a life well-grounded in the material world that offers the maximum of pleasure and the minimum of pain. The soul does not pursue pleasure and avoid pain; instead, there is an embrace of experiences that will assist us at the deepest level to completely learn the lessons that are presented to us so that we can release the past and move forward with greater wisdom. "
http://blog.beliefnet.com/astrologicalmusings/2009/02/the-awakened-dream-chiron-conj.html/

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posted July 23, 2012 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All this talk about him...and now I miss him.

I feel like contacting him. I was the one, who told him to leave me alone even after he tried to talk to me. I just don't think he's too mature.

So while I miss him, I refuse to overlook all his negatives, immaturity, and all the pain he put me through.

I guess, if destiny brought me to him, then it will once again if that's the case. I hope he would have gained some understanding and changed, but I'm not banking on it. If not, I should leave it alone.

But I do miss him... I hate goodbyes. It was really a long process for him and I to stop talking, almost 9 months.

I would be scared to start something again with no change in sight, to end up spending so much time then trying to get away.


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posted July 23, 2012 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His true node,ceres, pluto, karma were transiting his 5th house. Maybe I was just meant to give him some loving too.

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posted July 24, 2012 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having another crazy week - just didn't want you think I hadn't seen your posts Will try to post later tonight or tomorrow but in the meantime I can say that certain things resonated with what you said, although I was not the one to end things - he was. So in that I am definitely on another page.

I think the real key is the intuition part since that's what we were both talking about originally. Like, why did I think (or rather *know*) he was the guy I was going to end up with and how could I haves been so freaking wrong? That's what gets me about it, personally. I really trust the universe on this stuff and so it's given me a crisis of confidence in my own intuition that it would end in the exact opposite way that I felt it would.

Will write more soon.

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posted August 22, 2012 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorcha, we have something in the air...

Since you and I had something similar theme going on why don't you check this out:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/004046-2.html

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