posted July 15, 2012 02:25 PM            

He literally drives me up a wall. And I just met him. But I do really like him. When we are alone together, we never have problems - it is just when we are out in social situations all night or when we're not with one another. We have not known eachother a long time but it feels like I have known him for years. Even my friend when we were out said it seemed like we have been together for years, although at the time it was just a matter of like......a week and a half of knowing eachother.

Despite all the drama, I do think in my gut I should stay with him. Can anyone give me any sort of input based on what I have said about our relationship?

I think Moon/Uranus opposition in the composite may attribute to the problems and the Sun trine Saturn in the Composite might be what holds us together.

He feels that if we spend time together - it may turn into something special. I think so too.

Our biggest problem is definitely the arguing. When I try to communicate with him - he makes whatever issue worse by getting annoyed or something. I don't nessacarily always feel heard, even when I am. The whole relationship is pretty fiery with us both being Leos and the composite sun obviously being Leo as well. We both also have fire Mars natally.

He only has Neptune in Earth in his chart. I don't think my Taurus moon knows what to do with it.

ANY INPUT WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

posted July 15, 2012 03:28 PM            

I want to say upfront that I don't sugarcoat and since you're Fire like me I know you can understand. It looks like a very meaningful relationship, a growth relationship, but it doesn't look like he is the one for you or that it would last past.. 6 months/ 1 year IMO. I think you already know this. But as they say nothing happens in vain so I think there is a reason you two got together. You have some pretty powerful Nodal and angle conjunctions which I am sure provide a lot of chemistry and affinity, but I think in the long haul the differences between you two and how you look at the world/ what you want from life, a relationship, a partner - will eventually say the final word.
I say enjoy it for what it is and don't try to make it into something it is not. You're young and stunning, I am sure you will not have any trouble at all finding another partner if this doesn't work out.

posted July 15, 2012 03:55 PM            

Vertex conjunct IC, Moon conjunct NNode, a wide NNode/ASC conjunction, composite Vertex in 7th ... definitely fated, karmic relationship.

i don't like the double whammy Venus oppo Neptune in synastry, and then also in composite.

composite Venus oppo Neptune
This relationship can begin with a lot of hope and shared fantasies, but there is a time when realities set in and you might realize that a lot of what you've been projecting to your partner and believing about your partner is not based on reality. One or both of you might feel pressure to live up to the other's fantasies or high opinion, or you might be trying to prove your relationship to disapproving or cynical outsiders. While you might feel that you intuitively understand one another, and that you don't need to define your connection or your boundaries, it is more than likely that you don't truly know what it is your partner wants or expects of this relationship. Misunderstandings can lead to major disappointments, so it is critical that you allow one another to feel comfortable enough to express your more human needs and wants from each other. Fear of hurting one another with the truth can be strong, but eventually you will discover that lies hurt more than the truth. Hypersensitivity and treating one another with kid gloves are possible themes as you strive towards a spiritual or unconditional love, but it is vital that you ground yourselves from time to time, or this relationship might be confused and unclear. http://www.cafeastrology.com/composite/venus_neptune.html

the ruler of composite ASC Saturn is opposing Mars in composite, Mars in 5th is good for romance/sex but it's oppo the ruler of ASC which is in the 11th house of friends/social settings. I think this one describes what you said about not getting along in social situations. Mars oppo Saturn is a hard aspect to have in composite, especially since Saturn is ASC ruler!

Composite Mars Opposition Saturn:
In addition to whatever success this relationship holds, there will be considerable frustration as well. One or both of
you feels that you cannot do what you want, or that you are constantly being checked, watched, and judged. Projects you
undertake together may seem like a great strain, a constant battle, a grind, a struggle against overwhelming odds. A certain
grimness and pessimism can permeate your interactions. However, all is not for naught, and the constant effort may eventually
lead to an important accomplishment.

If you are expecting your friendship to be a casual, light happy acquaintance, then you are mistaken. This relationship can lead to success in a joint effort, but only after much hard work
and effort.

Most importantly, refrain from being excessively critical of each other or cynical towards one another. Even a little
joking can turn bitter quickly, and things said in jest between you can have a biting edge that was not originally intended. If you truly respect each other and give each other recognition for achievements and contributions, much of the negative potential
described above can be avoided. http://www.spiritualastrology.com/reportsamplecompf.shtml

i do like the composite Sun sexile Moon @ 0 degrees :
This is one of the better aspects to have in a composite chart. There is a pleasing balance, or perceived balance, present when it comes to the "give and take" between you, and you are unlikely to feel put upon or dominated by one another. Satisfying feelings of camaraderie exist between you, and this is a very supportive influence. Together, you feel secure and supported. http://www.cafeastrology.com/composite/sun_moon.html

+the composite Venus trine Pluto @ 0 degrees
This is hardly a casual relationship. Instead, it is destined to change your attitudes towards love and relationship, as well as your values. The need to be loyal to one another and to maintain a high level of intimacy and bonding between you is strong. Willingness to change, adapt, and make sacrifices for the relationship is notable. Passionate feelings are aroused in both of you, and you are more able than most to keep this passion alive because you take normal fluctuations of intensity in stride and don't demand more than your partner is capable of. http://www.cafeastrology.com/composite/venus_pluto.html

you also have a nice Venus square Jupiter in composite! (squares with Jupiter are good)

i can see why it would be frustrating! on one hand a very fated, transformational, relationship, great friendship, but on the other that composite Mars oppo chart ruler Saturn yikes! in my opinion that will be a challenge for the long run. <3

posted July 15, 2012 04:02 PM            

Also NN conjunct Moon is very potent, as mentioned, and I know how amazing a NN conjunct a luminary feels. (Amaaaaazing)

posted July 15, 2012 04:23 PM            

The two people above me pointed out some good things going on in your chart. I will look at your composite. You have Moon, Venus and Chiron in the 6th house of the composite. More than likely, this means he or you (more than likely him) will take the other for granted. It's not an awesome place to have the Sun, Moon, Venus and so it. One person will feel like they are serving the other with no reward, creating an imbalanced relationship.

Sun and Mercury in the 7th is good, meaning that you two do share similar values in relationships. The Sun is very well aspected save for the square to Pluto, power struggles.
The arguments can be anything. You are two Leos, Leo is a sign that hates being wrong or accused of something, and the fact that you two are fire signs, a fight is sort of inevitable unless you both are watered down with Cancer or Pisces.
A quick look at your synastry shows that your Mercuries are conjunct, you might talk at the same time, but your Mercury is conjunct his Mars, and his Mercury is part of a T-square to your Pluto and Moon. You will have a need to clear the air from time to time.

posted July 15, 2012 05:51 PM            

I think we both feel the nodes/angles/vertex pulls but also the mars opposite Saturn in the 11th for sure makes sense.

I wonder if the Sun trine Saturn is what makes us want to stay together despite the Moon/Mars opp Saturn and Uranus.

posted July 15, 2012 10:42 PM            

- His true node is on your descendant. His life feels in place around you and with you. Even in the chaos and especially when people can't understand it. He and even you end up feeling it's meant to be.

- You have the potential to love him deeply when he gets to the making a family/ home stage. I think you can sense that.

- He seem to be lucky for you in your career, finances. Maybe he inspires you.

- He might like you more for the material wealth or status you might have to offer. Or his career will end up giving you wealth and materials.

- Are he in the healthcare field? Or does he somehow heal people?

- By the time he's done with you, he'll have deepl changed you. He also has the potenital to deeply wound you if things go wrong. He might be manipulative toward you.

- You will end up wanting to discover how he thinks, and the reasons for his thinking. You won't want any secrets between you.
You might get into arguments because of this. You won't be mincing your words in this area.

- While he's very touchy feely, you're very practical maybe seems a tad too practical for him. This may be your guys' problem. But again here it seems he will mould you to his liking.

- You add a fresh breath to his career. You inspire him as well. And in turn you make him responsible, maybe by being with you, he want to growup now. lol Not saying he isn't mature, just maybe he is more willing to play the part.

I'm faking it 'til I make it, so let me now what I have wrong. I know I might have tons incorrect. Also I was focusing on the synastry here. I hope things work out between you too.

The composite to me shows that you two are very cutting with your words. And this strikes a nerve with your emotions. However deep down you realize that neither really means any harm. Maybe you are acouple that fights til you get old.

Also, you doubt your relationship a lot. The both of you are very insecure about it. You are in love with being together, but are you in love with each other. You need to clear that aspect out in face to face.

posted July 16, 2012 01:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
So if I may butt in, I think he's someone you want to be with no matter what.

- His true node is on your descendant. His life feels in place around you and with you. Even in the chaos and especially when people can't understand it. He and even you end up feeling it's meant to be.

[b]very true

- You have the potential to love him deeply when he gets to the making a family/ home stage. I think you can sense that.

- He seem to be lucky for you in your career, finances. Maybe he inspires you.

- He might like you more for the material wealth or status you might have to offer. Or his career will end up giving you wealth and materials.

- Are he in the healthcare field? Or does he somehow heal people?

no to this but maybe one day he will change careers
- By the time he's done with you, he'll have deepl changed you. He also has the potenital to deeply wound you if things go wrong. He might be manipulative toward you.
manipulative, yes
- You will end up wanting to discover how he thinks, and the reasons for his thinking. You won't want any secrets between you.
You might get into arguments because of this. You won't be mincing your words in this area.
true

- While he's very touchy feely, you're very practical maybe seems a tad too practical for him. This may be your guys' problem. But again here it seems he will mould you to his liking.
this I'm not sure about this but he did make a comment yesterday about that makes me think this might be right

- You add a fresh breath to his career. You inspire him as well. And in turn you make him responsible, maybe by being with you, he want to growup now. lol Not saying he isn't mature, just maybe he is more willing to play the part.
i hope he grows up some

I'm faking it 'til I make it, so let me now what I have wrong. I know I might have tons incorrect. Also I was focusing on the synastry here. I hope things work out between you too.

The composite to me shows that you two are very cutting with your words. And this strikes a nerve with your emotions. However deep down you realize that neither really means any harm. Maybe you are acouple that fights til you get old.

Also, you doubt your relationship a lot. The both of you are very insecure about it. You are in love with being together, but are you in love with each other. You need to clear that aspect out in face to face.

Is it the security of the relationship and comfort that it brings that holds you two together? [/B]

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I don't think it's the security of the relationship. It's not hard for me to find a boyfriend. I just really want to be with him

posted July 20, 2012 07:15 PM            

Thank you so much for all of your input. Things have been so much better after reading and thinking about the aspects described. We have not fought or "fake broken up" for twelve hours. I think having an understanding of the mars/Saturn opposition made me realize when I was literally fighting over nothing worthwhile.

A thing I realized too was since my chart is pretty fiery and airy - I can be "go go go" with one foot out the door without giving it a chance. Perhaps that's my Gemini Venus opposite Saturn too. Recently my past boyfriends needed to "ground" me in a way when I would try to take flight for no apparent reason and when I really didn't even want to go in the first place. I realized with him - he actually has less earth than me. (I have a Taurus moon and Capricorn Neptune - he just has the Neptune) When I am one foot out the door his watery side gets sensitive and his fire blows up. I have to be the stabilizing factor in those arguments if I want this relationship to work. Or at least be tolerable seeing how we can't break away from eachother even though we both have tried. Haha. So for however long it lasts, I learned that.

I am still hoping that pesky Saturn might actually do us some good with the composite trine to Sun. My moon would like to settle down eventually.

posted July 21, 2012 12:59 AM            

With Uranus being in the 12th, I'd say that the relationship is very much to bring deep changes to both of you, added to that the Venus/Pluto trine. Perhaps one of you isn't quite ready to face such intense energy, and this insecurity/fear builds up and is released in the form of disputes.

Uranus is free, its energy will flow out one way or another and within the transforming 12th house it is to take a lot of effort and awareness to be accepting of this energy and not feel caught off guard.

posted July 21, 2012 03:31 PM            

@ peach yes these synastry charts are always hard to read, not knowing which little dashes are whose lol

you know you actually have a grand fire trine with Mercury/Saturn/Jupiter. and Mars sextiles Mercury+Jupiter. that Saturn+Mars opposition definitely has positive outlets. maybe since Saturn is ruler of ASC you two will need some time to adjust to each other? Saturn is all about patience. if you two both put in the effort, i have no doubt saturn will give positive results in the end. =)

i found another link:
Composite Mars in opposition with Saturn
With this aspect between composite Mars and Saturn, your relationship has a responsible, centered and hard-working quality that also might be experienced as a blockage of activity. Together, you possess a strong desire for freedom of expression that does not easily find its realization. You may share a desire but become inhibited in the process of acting on it. You'll think of a great idea, and then share only half of it, or you'll know exactly what the job takes, but stumble in trying to demonstrate it. As frustrating and even despairing as this placement can be, when you can summon the strength of purpose to work through these difficulties you gain in strength and courage, and over time may gain a better foundation for action. It benefits you to be tolerant with the range of feelings that arise between you in this process, making room for shyness, stiffness, or a desire to control or lash out. As you support each other to cultivate both courage and compassion, you have the potential to overcome your fears of self-expression and come to a more loving understanding of yourselves and each other. http://www.astrograph.com/astrology-software/sampleReport.php?report=Lennon_cmpst

a nice positive little sextile should equally have some recognition: (lol)

composite Moon sextile Mercury
You easily share personal information with each other, and probably delight in so doing. This is a chatty aspect that indicates much exchange, stimulation, and a mutual desire for variety and changes in the environment. Together, you like to keep busy, and if you share a home, the atmosphere is active and involved. You tend to be sensitive to each other's feelings and moods, and turn to each other for easy conversation. You may delight in sharing memories with one another. The female in this relationship may be quite talkative, finding a wonderful outlet in her partner. As a couple, you are involved with each other and find it quite easy to solve problems in a rational and reasonable manner. http://www.cafeastrology.com/composite/moon_mercury.html

posted August 15, 2012 12:45 PM            

I broke up with him and there is no room for reconciliation. I do think it was fated - although short. It got me over being hung up on a very difficult situation with another guy. I do think I might have a clearer picture now about what I want in a partner.

The instability and frustration ultimately was too much for me. And the fighting. Me oh my