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EmpressMendez
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posted July 16, 2012 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My question was will he come back and I asked this question 3 days ago I posted this chart in a different thread, but no one helped.

The ascendant isn't late because late would be more than 27 degrees, so it's still valid . Don't be afraid to be blunt honest with me, I can handle it so don't worry.

I got a yes, but I don't know anything about houses and planets in detriment, etc so I got a yes without looking into that information.

Ruler of Taurus is Venus in the 1st house. Ruler of Scorpio is Mars in 5th house. Venus trine Mars is Applying. NN in 7th house..would that mean we still have unfinished "karmic business"? Idk. Mars doesn't look too comfortable there, right?

Anyone want to share some insight? Thanks so much. I hope I'm getting the hang of horary, it's so fun .


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Anchi
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posted July 16, 2012 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anchi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, your main significators are in an applying trine. you as venus in the 1st probably would want to have him back straight away?, he is in a detriment sign, he's not as eager? (yet) because he is ruled by you (mars in libra ruled by venus) he does want you still, but i think something is holding him back? the moon in the 12th is not the best position, but it's exalted in taurus. since the main applying trine is 6 degrees i think this could mean 6 weeks/6months from now, yes he will come back. that's my take. lol

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posted July 16, 2012 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Anchi Sweetheart! Lol.

I'm getting the hang of it, finally. Thanks to you because you always help and I stalk your horary threads :X lol.

You have helped me so much, so if you need anything let me know. I keep getting 6 weeks as well. Also, Moon in 12th..ai'm kind of hiding my feelings from him (poker face). He wants to have fun that's why he's in that house, grr..lol..

Thanks <3

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posted July 16, 2012 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anchi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol Empress you're welcome! some charts are easier to read, some are super confusing. lol i hope everything works out for you (the way you wish). <3

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posted July 16, 2012 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus and Mars appear to be applying because Venus recently turned direct and Mars is faster than she is. But once Venus goes back to her natural speed, she will be separating from Mars. The fact that they are applying in the grid is irrelevant as long as they never perfect. Sorry, empress. He does love you very much, just so you know, and he's not doing very well without you. But it is you who will leave him behind in the end.

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posted July 16, 2012 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did write him something like this to him (wrote him a letter) but I thought when you asked an horary question only the planets positions at the time mattered?

I don't plan to accept him back so quickly because I want to teach him a lesson, but I didn't think it mattered here if the planets separated later on. I thought horary was all in the current moment, lol. But that is interesting Hera

By the way, what does never perfect mean?

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posted July 16, 2012 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Current planetary positions tell the story as it is at present. Future planetary positions tell you how it will evolve. You project the chart in the future to see how the planets aspect each other or change direction. If they apply but never perfect it means basically it will not happen, even though you wish it. Ephemeris should always be at your side when reading horary. This dance that they do is IMO the cherry on the top of the horary chart, lol. ^_^

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posted July 16, 2012 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's so cool and I hope to learn and know the 'language' you're currently speaking right now some day, lol!

But that's true what you're saying. You're basically reading into the future because I wrote him a letter today telling him a couple of truths that basically made me pull back and look at the whole picture (our relationship) and the issues that we have yet to fix.

I don't want to go back to those issues again until he gets serious. So you are right either way!! Thank you

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Current planetary positions tell the story as it is at present. Future planetary positions tell you how it will evolve. You project the chart in the future to see how the planets aspect each other or change direction. If they apply but never perfect it means basically it will not happen, even though you wish it. Ephemeris should always be at your side when reading horary. This dance that they do is IMO the cherry on the top of the horary chart, lol. ^_^

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posted July 16, 2012 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes.. Moon 3HR is in your 12H, pondering on things.. and Sun in your 3H is applying to sq Saturn, his 3HR, with bad reception. That is probably the letter which will not be received well. He will take it very much to heart.

For what it's worth, I think he is suffering. He is in detriment, in a T-square with Uranus and Pluto.. Yes, he applies to Jupiter which can be money I guess. Jupiter is also intercepted ruler of his 5th house. You have kids together?

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posted July 16, 2012 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, we have kids. I don't think he worries too much about money. Pluto r in 8th house makes me think of an addiction of some sort.

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posted July 16, 2012 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I thought of gambling.. He might try to contact the kids, I think.

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posted July 16, 2012 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yes, he comes pick them up on Wednesday .

Not gambling :x (gambling his family, maybe? lol)

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posted July 16, 2012 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good to hear no gambling.. I think it is good for now to let it sink like this, for a while. He is in a pretty bad shape and needs to up his game. Being in detriment means either in bad health or ill character/attitude/mood. Basically it is saying he is not good boyfriend material at the moment. So addiction might be possible indeed. I think it's one of those things he needs to sort out for himself first and foremost.. before you take him back.

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posted July 16, 2012 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is spot on Hera!! And it's what I'm intending on doing. Soooo trueeee.

Thanks for your kind help =)

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posted July 16, 2012 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww you're very welcome, Empress! It is saddening for me, especially when kids are involved, it always touches me a bit closer to home than I'd like. I hope things will be sorted out in everyone's ultimate best interest!

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posted July 16, 2012 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel everything will sort itself for the best . Thanks again

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