posted July 25, 2012 01:08 PM            

We call this horoscope a "persona chart". For one, this horoscope describes one of my inner "personalities", and secondly, it is derived from "per-sonare" and therefore associated with the motif of "that which rings through". Each of the inner personalities rings through the whole consisting of all the other personalities. A special sound rings through the whole chart. An individual sound!"

posted July 25, 2012 01:26 PM            

Your Mercury Persona has a few things that jump out at me:

A. Saturn in the 9th, representing a concrete but sometimes, slightly too rigid ways of thinking. The 9th is about allowing our minds and souls to open up to higher ideals. We have the zealots and story tellers here. With Saturn in the 9th we might have someone who doesn't place a huge emphasis on allowing their minds to travel great distances or traveling great distances physically isn't as important. Or both of these things take time, come late, and/or cause anxieties and frustrations.

B. Saturn makes a sextile to the Moon, showing that this probable rigid thinking can lead to issues with the nurturing function. Although this positive contact isn't nearly as pressuring as a square, this can still lead to one feeling like they have to have a tight hold on their emotions and emotional poise. I've also seen this with people who struggle with eating disorders and anorexia in particular, since Saturn - control - is limiting the Moon - food and nurturing the self. But that is usually with the stress aspects like the square and less frequently the opposition.

C. You have a 7th house focus, a stellium in Capricorn, showing you have a very serious and diligent, focused mind. You want to do things most of the time, with your own hands. You want to be able to see the benefits of what you put your mind to. I've read about Cap Mercury, an interesting tidbit: the sky is the sky, the grass is the grass, and that's that. It is a very ambitious Mercury placement but a very concrete one; it doesn't easily see or understand (prefer) what is abstract or 'far out'. The 7th house emphasis makes me wonder if partnerships and relationships can tend to runaway with your thinking.

D. You have Mars conjunct the Descendant also, which makes me wonder if your very driven mindset can make you feel mentally exhausted easily. Conjunct Descendant is also, opposite the ASC, meaning you could come across as one who works themselves weary in Mercurial areas. I'm guessing you are a very intense studying type, study till you drop, right? It can't always be healthy though. Cancer ASC for your Mercury Persona wants you to remember that you need to nurture not only the body but the MIND as well. It's important to balance it all out.

E. You have the Mercury of this Persona chart in conjunction with Uranus and Neptune, more closely to Uranus. This also shows me that you could have a chance of being a slightly more abstract and unique thinker, but with the Cap bent you'll probably use it in specific ways - finding innovative new solutions and ways to solve real life problems, for example, specifically in 7th house areas.

F. I notice your Chiron, the asteroid of wounds and spiritual healing, is posited in the 3rd. For a Mercury Persona chart this is a big deal, since Mercury rules the 3rd. This leads me to wonder if deep within, you might have issues with communication, you might feel self-conscious about what you say and think, beating yourself up for not talking or writing as you want to, insecure about how you speak and write, or feeling like it's never good enough and you work too hard for nothing. Sounds extreme, but I wanted to list all possibilities for how Chiron could manifest in your 3rd house of communications. To have the wounded healer here might mean that you could also have felt unjustly criticized by teachers in grammar school, K-12, your parents and/or siblings, for how you write and speak and get your point across. Your voice could maybe have been drowned out or put down. Anyway, this is important because you need to learn how to get over this pain of communication and express your Mercury to your fullest potential.

posted July 25, 2012 06:29 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
You gave 3 Persona charts for the planets above. I won't say that Uranus and Neptune really are NOT important for this, but Mercury seems to be the chart of more immediate importance, since Uranus and Neptune are our generational planets and not nearly as unique to us as a personal planet like Mercury.

Your Mercury Persona has a few things that jump out at me:

A. Saturn in the 9th, representing a concrete but sometimes, slightly too rigid ways of thinking. The 9th is about allowing our minds and souls to open up to higher ideals. We have the zealots and story tellers here. With Saturn in the 9th we might have someone who doesn't place a huge emphasis on allowing their minds to travel great distances or traveling great distances physically isn't as important. Or both of these things take time, come late, and/or cause anxieties and frustrations.

B. Saturn makes a sextile to the Moon, showing that this probable rigid thinking can lead to issues with the nurturing function. Although this positive contact isn't nearly as pressuring as a square, this can still lead to one feeling like they have to have a tight hold on their emotions and emotional poise. I've also seen this with people who struggle with eating disorders and anorexia in particular, since Saturn - control - is limiting the Moon - food and nurturing the self. But that is usually with the stress aspects like the square and less frequently the opposition.

C. You have a 7th house focus, a stellium in Capricorn, showing you have a very serious and diligent, focused mind. You want to do things most of the time, with your own hands. You want to be able to see the benefits of what you put your mind to. I've read about Cap Mercury, an interesting tidbit: the sky is the sky, the grass is the grass, and that's that. It is a very ambitious Mercury placement but a very concrete one; it doesn't easily see or understand (prefer) what is abstract or 'far out'. The 7th house emphasis makes me wonder if partnerships and relationships can tend to runaway with your thinking.

D. You have Mars conjunct the Descendant also, which makes me wonder if your very driven mindset can make you feel mentally exhausted easily. Conjunct Descendant is also, opposite the ASC, meaning you could come across as one who works themselves weary in Mercurial areas. I'm guessing you are a very intense studying type, study till you drop, right? It can't always be healthy though. Cancer ASC for your Mercury Persona wants you to remember that you need to nurture not only the body but the MIND as well. It's important to balance it all out.

E. You have the Mercury of this Persona chart in conjunction with Uranus and Neptune, more closely to Uranus. This also shows me that you could have a chance of being a slightly more abstract and unique thinker, but with the Cap bent you'll probably use it in specific ways - finding innovative new solutions and ways to solve real life problems, for example, specifically in 7th house areas.

F. I notice your Chiron, the asteroid of wounds and spiritual healing, is posited in the 3rd. For a Mercury Persona chart this is a big deal, since Mercury rules the 3rd. This leads me to wonder if deep within, you might have issues with communication, you might feel self-conscious about what you say and think, beating yourself up for not talking or writing as you want to, insecure about how you speak and write, or feeling like it's never good enough and you work too hard for nothing. Sounds extreme, but I wanted to list all possibilities for how Chiron could manifest in your 3rd house of communications. To have the wounded healer here might mean that you could also have felt unjustly criticized by teachers in grammar school, K-12, your parents and/or siblings, for how you write and speak and get your point across. Your voice could maybe have been drowned out or put down. Anyway, this is important because you need to learn how to get over this pain of communication and express your Mercury to your fullest potential.

What do you think? Does any of this ring true for you? I'm not even covering everything but I think this nails down the basics.

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Yes you were amazing, you really hit home with this. I definitely resonate with everything you said, you so helped me understand my chart much better. With the stellium i have in capricorn in my 7th house i agree with the description you gave. I'm very hand on on everything i tackle and very practical. i definitely laughed with the whole grass is grass and sky is the sky which is true with me because i like to keep everything simple and straight to the point and no question. I do seem to push my self hard when it comes to academics its something that is of a top priority to me. Seeing how i got that stellium in my 7 house probably explains my communication style which is in term of one in one like how you speak to your other half like a partner.

Thanks for explaining my chiron in my 3rd house, i resonate with the description you gave me. Since i was a kid my family and friend made me feel illiterate like i wouldn't amount to much. I had a hard time learning how to read and to do the basic math. Even though I've improved in that area till this day i still feel im not intelligent enough or academically inclined even though i do well in school.

posted July 26, 2012 01:02 AM            

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Originally posted by yvetterocks101:
Yes you were amazing, you really hit home with this. I definitely resonate with everything you said, you so helped me understand my chart much better. With the stellium i have in capricorn in my 7th house i agree with the description you gave. I'm very hand on on everything i tackle and very practical. i definitely laughed with the whole grass is grass and sky is the sky which is true with me because i like to keep everything simple and straight to the point and no question. I do seem to push my self hard when it comes to academics its something that is of a top priority to me. Seeing how i got that stellium in my 7 house probably explains my communication style which is in term of one in one like how you speak to your other half like a partner.

Thanks for explaining my chiron in my 3rd house, i resonate with the description you gave me. Since i was a kid my family and friend made me feel illiterate like i wouldn't amount to much. I had a hard time learning how to read and to do the basic math. Even though I've improved in that area till this day i still feel im not intelligent enough or academically inclined even though i do well in school.

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I'm so glad to have helped and provided accuracy for you.
I'm glad this helped you see better into how your Mercury functions separately and adds into the entire unit of your Natal chart. Your Mercury has an interesting piece to add to the pie, as do your other personal planets. Your Cap influence obviously makes you have a diligent, ambitious and straightforward mind. Will you do anything business related later in life, do you think? Producing or publishing or anything like that?

I'm sorry to hear about your family and how they put you down. I have Saturn in the 3rd and NEVER have had any math and sometimes science confidence at all. I'd constantly be the one putting myself down and my family was sort of flakey about self-confidence boosting so I can relate there. I also have Chiron in the 9th, the pain never ends! Lol... not funny though. The key with Saturn and esp. Chiron placements is to learn how to master the areas and also, help others with similar problems in the areas you felt sad about to release your own pain in sensing others had similar problems.