posted July 26, 2012 08:46 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
Socrates once said it's better to suffer from injustice than to be its agent. I personally don't believe there's any drama.

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posted July 26, 2012 08:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Maybe you are right but this isnt a single case. There have been severals.

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yeah i've seen. your interp of someone's synastry.

what i totes agree with is that a spirit of hostility does not by any means make this community attractive. i think what i was captivated by initially was this general feel of amicability.

posted July 26, 2012 08:59 AM            

I'm open for any, honestly. I prefer someone hurting me with the truth, than to have someone comfort me with a lie. If I give readings to people here, I would like their honesty, 100%. I have been honest with everyone here and if your reading does not click with my situation, then I will let you know.

I am grateful, but I will provide honest feedback. Now if you take it as rude, then that really is your problem. I was never rude to anyone here unless they were rude to me first. I will not allow anyone to step over me because I am not a push over.

It's a public forum, no one is saying anyone owes anyone here anything. Once you offer your readings you're opening yourself up for criticism. Keep that in mind. Some people will be nice about it and others won't. Accept that the only person who can be 100% correct is God. No one else.

posted July 26, 2012 09:11 AM            

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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
It's not about liking or disliking a reading. To me, it's about honest feedback. Once you expose your free services (as I have done as well) to others, your work is open for criticism. Whether it's constructive or otherwise is the issue.

I'm open for any, honestly. I prefer someone hurting me with the truth, than to have someone comfort me with a lie. If I give readings to people here, I would like their honesty, 100%. I have been honest with everyone here and if your reading does not click with my situation, then I will let you know.

I am grateful, but I will provide honest feedback. Now if you take it as rude, then that really is your problem. I was never rude to anyone here unless they were rude to me first. I will not allow anyone to step over me because I am not a push over.

It's a public forum, no one is saying anyone owes anyone here anything. Once you offer your readings you're opening yourself up for criticism. Keep that in mind. Some people will be nice about it and others won't. Accept that the only person who can be 100% correct is God. No one else.

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Empress, I do agree that wishful thinking works both ways. And I haven't noticed anyone was saying we have to suppress negative feedback. Honesty is a brilliant thing, not giving honest feedback is counterproductive for readers more than for anyone, OBVS

I suppose anyone asking for a reading should give the benefit of doubt to the universe or whatever makes us do it. You say you've been doing readings. You have experienced this draining that follows pulling cards in a state of total emptiness and attempts to concentrate [well I'm only assuming.... there is a possibility that you haven't]. This is massively difficult, and the effort should be given at least some respect.

No one asks questions re: something they are convinced of. There may always be some undertow or other we're unaware of. Options and scenarios have to be considered. By asking questions we're reaching out for what is hidden. By looking for confirmation, we always run the risk of learning the opposite.

People you haven't met have no intention of foisting on you something you don't want to have to realise. And by breaking undesirable news to you no one is trying to be rude, disrespectful or whatever.

Conditionals and subjunctives it is. And you know damn well nothing is set in stone. There is always the adorable question "what can i do to change this?" "what aspects can i rely on to make it work?" etc.

posted July 26, 2012 09:13 AM            

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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
It's not about liking or disliking a reading. To me, it's about honest feedback. Once you expose your free services (as I have done as well) to others, your work is open for criticism. Whether it's constructive or otherwise is the issue.

I'm open for any, honestly. I prefer someone hurting me with the truth, than to have someone comfort me with a lie. If I give readings to people here, I would like their honesty, 100%. I have been honest with everyone here and if your reading does not click with my situation, then I will let you know.

I am grateful, but I will provide honest feedback. Now if you take it as rude, then that really is your problem. I was never rude to anyone here unless they were rude to me first. I will not allow anyone to step over me because I am not a push over.

It's a public forum, no one is saying anyone owes anyone here anything. Once you offer your readings you're opening yourself up for criticism. Keep that in mind. Some people will be nice about it and others won't. Accept that the only person who can be 100% correct is God. No one else.

[b]When I provided feedback on your interpretation of my composite I was letting you know that what you were viewing was incorrect in the most polite of manners. You took that offensively, which was NOT my intention to begin with. Composite are about how a couple interacts together. None of what you explained made sense, specifically the "fling" part. Let's not get into that again. I was just telling you that your interpretation of my composite compared to I interact with my boyfriend in real life did not apply. I was not rude, I was honest. You took it as me being rude. After that, you got arrogant and told me you were "always 100% correct" (which is impossible). [/B]

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posted July 26, 2012 09:19 AM            

I don't recall being rude to Rosalind about her interpretation. I was polite and even thanked her. She got pissy when I stated what others have said about my composite. She has been rude in the past to almost anyone here with her replies, but people just let it brush off and I'm not the type of person who will do that.

I personally don't think I was rude when I provided feedback (after she got rude, of course it's only fair to be rude back).

Now, if someone is asking you to "predict the future" that's a different thing. I never asked for predictions and I have been polite as long as people were polite as well.

posted July 26, 2012 09:23 AM            

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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
@andstuff: Definitely very draining, but if something doesn't feel right, or click with your situation, then the person has the right to let you know.

I don't recall being rude to Rosalind about her interpretation. I was polite and even thanked her. She got pissy when I stated what others have said about my composite. She has been rude in the past to almost anyone here with her replies, but people just let it brush off and I'm not the type of person who will do that.

I personally don't think I was rude when I provided feedback (after she got rude, of course it's only fair to be rude back).

Now, if someone is asking you to "predict the future" that's a different thing. I never asked for predictions and I have been polite as long as people were polite as well.

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posted July 26, 2012 09:25 AM            

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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
@andstuff: Definitely very draining, but if something doesn't feel right, or click with your situation, then the person has the right to let you know.

I don't recall being rude to Rosalind about her interpretation. I was polite and even thanked her. She got pissy when I stated what others have said about my composite. She has been rude in the past to almost anyone here with her replies, but people just let it brush off and I'm not the type of person who will do that.

I personally don't think I was rude when I provided feedback (after she got rude, of course it's only fair to be rude back).

Now, if someone is asking you to "predict the future" that's a different thing. I never asked for predictions and I have been polite as long as people were polite as well.

@Rosalind: Honesty has nothing to do with rudeness. You can be both rude and honest. I was rude after you said that you weren't wrong and that you were "100% right". There you go bragging again about your "gifts" and "expert" qualities. You're hilarious and I truly do pity you. Now leave me alone. I have been trying to be nice to you and even apologized, but you will always be rude - it's in your nature. Your infantile replies towards me will be ignored. Have a nice one!

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posted July 26, 2012 09:34 AM            

I'm an honest person. If you think my honesty is rude, then so be it. Like I said, I have nothing else to state to you. You're infantile and pathetic. Honestly, I do laugh when I read some of the things you write here. I don't care if you think it's rude, I'm telling you the truth.

posted July 26, 2012 09:39 AM            

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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
Do a reading and ask if I was honest with you and you will get your answer. If you truly have a gift, then you will see the truth for yourself.

I'm an honest person. If you think my honesty is rude, then so be it. Like I said, I have nothing else to state to you. You're infantile and pathetic. Honestly, I do laugh when I read some of the things you write here. I don't care if you think it's rude, I'm telling you the truth.

[b]Who else am I arguing with on this forum? Clue me in! You're THE ONLY ONE arguing with more than 3 people here. You're rude to everyone here with your stuck up replies and attitude. Take your own advice.[/B]

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posted July 26, 2012 09:40 AM            

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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
@andstuff: Definitely very draining, but if something doesn't feel right, or click with your situation, then the person has the right to let you know.

I don't recall being rude to Rosalind about her interpretation. I was polite and even thanked her. She got pissy when I stated what others have said about my composite. She has been rude in the past to almost anyone here with her replies, but people just let it brush off and I'm not the type of person who will do that.

I personally don't think I was rude when I provided feedback (after she got rude, of course it's only fair to be rude back).

Now, if someone is asking you to "predict the future" that's a different thing. I never asked for predictions and I have been polite as long as people were polite as well.

@Rosalind: Honesty has nothing to do with rudeness. You can be both rude and honest. I was rude after you said that you weren't wrong and that you were "100% right". There you go bragging again about your "gifts" and "expert" qualities. You're hilarious and I truly do pity you. Now leave me alone. I have been trying to be nice to you and even apologized, but you will always be rude - it's in your nature. Your infantile replies towards me will be ignored. Have a nice one!

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i'm sorry where are you from? i've always thought it's never pretty nor cool to be rude back. however difficult to abstain. esp online.

posted July 26, 2012 09:48 AM            

What she said about my composite, her interpretation, did not match with my situation at all. I'm saying the truth, I have no reason to lie here. This is the Internet, why should I lie? I have no reason to. No one here knows me, so why should I hide behind a lie? My relationship isn't a fairy tale - it's real life. We get along great for the most part. We have issues like any other couple, and I will admit that in the beginning our relationship was rocky. We moved in a month or two after knowing each other and have lived together ever since.

posted July 26, 2012 09:54 AM            

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I was born in New York. It has nothing to do with where or how I was born or lived, this is just how I am. Some people accept it and others don't. I always treat someone the way the treat me. If someone is rude to me, then I'm rude back.

What she said about my composite, her interpretation, did not match with my situation at all. I'm saying the truth, I have no reason to lie here. This is the Internet, why should I lie? I have no reason to. No one here knows me, so why should I hide behind a lie? My relationship isn't a fairy tale - it's real life. We get along great for the most part. We have issues like any other couple, and I will admit that in the beginning our relationship was rocky. We moved in a month or two after knowing each other and have lived together ever since.

And she called my relationship a fling, which is not true at all. She then told me she "doesn't see marriage", maybe her way of wording things didn't come out as it should. But it felt to me like she was predicting my future, which wasn't what I asked. I thanked her for her interpretation and later on remembered what others have said about my composite, which heavily contradicted with what she stated. I wasn't rude about it, but her reply afterwards was and so I paid her with the same coin she did me.

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posted July 26, 2012 09:59 AM            

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You have children with that man and you are not already married. You broke up several times. Are you that blind to not see the truth?

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So, let me get this straight. I HAVE to marry someone before we have kids together?

We broke up several times IN THE BEGINNING. So what? What's your point?

What is the truth according to YOU almighty one?

posted July 26, 2012 10:01 AM            

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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
So, let me get this straight. I HAVE to marry someone before we have kids together?

We broke up several times IN THE BEGINNING. So what? What's your point?

What is the truth according to YOU almighty one?

I'm blind, yes. Enlighten me.

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posted July 26, 2012 10:03 AM            

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Just forget it. Its useless. I give up.

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Exactly. You don't personally know me or us. Has it crossed your mind that we don't want to get married now, or if ever?

I don't want marriage now, so what? It doesn't mean we aren't going to, or that we're not meant to be either. We're happy the way things are for now, and when we decide to take that step, we will.

We don't have to follow society and do what everyone deems "normal". It's not how we are.

posted July 26, 2012 10:10 AM            

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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
I was born in New York. It has nothing to do with where or how I was born or lived, this is just how I am. Some people accept it and others don't. I always treat someone the way the treat me. If someone is rude to me, then I'm rude back.

What she said about my composite, her interpretation, did not match with my situation at all. I'm saying the truth, I have no reason to lie here. This is the Internet, why should I lie? I have no reason to. No one here knows me, so why should I hide behind a lie? My relationship isn't a fairy tale - it's real life. We get along great for the most part. We have issues like any other couple, and I will admit that in the beginning our relationship was rocky. We moved in a month or two after knowing each other and have lived together ever since.

And she called my relationship a fling, which is not true at all. She then told me she "doesn't see marriage", maybe her way of wording things didn't come out as it should. But it felt to me like she was predicting my future, which wasn't what I asked. I thanked her for her interpretation and later on remembered what others have said about my composite, which heavily contradicted with what she stated. I wasn't rude about it, but her reply afterwards was and so I paid her with the same coin she did me.

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i read that fling thing. a karmic fling must have been a metaphorical way of saying it's just for this lifetime. one lifetime is huge to us. it's nothing in terms of multiple lifetimes. i have no idea how true it all is, but if people end up together over a series of lifetimes it's like... serious? bigger than a single lifetime thing? i have read women like thinking someone is a soulmate or whatever juz as a result of oxytocin and general clinginess [double oxytocin]. oxytocin can cloud one's reasoning. you cannot blame astrological data for contradicting what your oxytocin whispers to you. still you know 'blood never lies' as the song goes. then you shouldn't seek this kinda advice if you know everything and trust your oxytocin.

re: whoever was rude first. it's none of my business. therefore all i can say i have a degree in literature and i could analyse your lexical field and implications. that was a while ago and i don't remember, but i picked up the impression that Ros was nearly obliged to tell you what you wanted and it was her fault. meanwhile, this is a platform for communication. if you fail to communicate it's not exclusively and necessarily the problem of the people you address.

any synastry/composite can contain contradictory indicators. i have never been good at singling out ones that matter more than others.

you come across as convinced that you are right. fine. right about everything. every single word you said. every conclusion you made. fine. no one can force you to do otherwise. but this brings us back to communication. you cannot engage in a dialogue unless you hear what you want. i'm guessing you are seeking some virtual illusion here online. but this is none of my business. obvs.

posted July 26, 2012 10:21 AM            

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i picked up the impression that Ros was nearly obliged to tell you what you wanted and it was her fault

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Please go over to the thread and read it again. I don't force anyone to tell me what "I want to hear". That's always my policy as a reader, I will not sugarcoat or tell you what you want to hear and I like others to do that to me as well.

That's why I choose to do and tell people the truth because that's what I want in return, always. Why would I want to pay someone to lie to me and tell me what I want to hear? never. I'm not like that and will never be like that.

Whether he's my "soul mate" or not, or how I feel about the situation doesn't matter here. I know what I have and what I've been through with him. It's definitely nothing like a fling and it never was. It was serious from the beginning and it just felt natural to us to be together.

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you come across as convinced that you are right. fine. right about everything. every single word you said. every conclusion you made. fine. no one can force you to do otherwise. but this brings us back to communication. you cannot engage in a dialogue unless you hear what you want. i'm guessing you are seeking some virtual illusion here online. but this is none of my business. obvs.

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Actually, it's the opposite. She's the one who wants to convince herself that she is always right.

Seeking virtual illusion? WHAT? What are you talking about?? You can take her side all you want to. I never said I was right or wrong, I'm telling her what I have experienced and lived according to my composite. It's not about being right or wrong, it's about the truth and how it applies to my real life. Like I said, I have no reason to lie. You take her side, or not it's OK with me. I'm still sticking to what I know and being honest with everything I'm writing here.

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posted July 26, 2012 10:39 AM            

Same with Karma, it could be negative or positive Karma. When I replied to Rosalind on the composite reading I was just adding feedback and how her interpretation related to my real life.

After some replies, I wanted to share what another person said about my composite (2 others actually, but I mentioned 1). I wasn't rude about it..or at least I don't think I was. Her reply though, was. If you can go over the thread again..you can see where and when it started getting ugly..

posted July 26, 2012 10:53 AM            

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By the way about soul mates, anyone can enter your life and be your soul mate. Maybe for a long time, or for short..soul mates aren't exclusive to just one person or couple.

Same with Karma, it could be negative or positive Karma. When I replied to Rosalind on the composite reading I was just adding feedback and how her interpretation related to my real life.

After some replies, I wanted to share what another person said about my composite (2 others actually, but I mentioned 1). I wasn't rude about it..or at least I don't think I was. Her reply though, was. If you can go over the thread again..you can see where and when it started getting ugly..

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I AM NOT TAKING ANY BLOODY SIDES

re-read outta curiosity. the first ugly bit was your "you learn something new every day". condescending and insulting. the next one was "get over it".

Karma is a lack of balance that needs to be redressed, as i see it. Don't believe it's exclusively about good or bad.

posted July 26, 2012 11:03 AM            

The first ugly bit was her "What can I say? Maybe I am starting to become poor in astrology."

Come on, did she really need to say that? Of course I will be rude after someone replies to me that way. I simply shared what another person said about my composite and her reply was RUDE and ugly.

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despite the feeling of consubstantiality and crazy telepathic thing across the miles when i could feel his pain and he could feel mine.

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I had that with an ex, but we didn't last very long at all. It was the craziest thing I've experienced and I thought I was delusional. I've never had that with anyone else afterward.

From my knowledge adn understanding, soul mates are people who enter your life to teach you a powerful lesson (be it right or wrong).
Twin souls on the other hand are people you are meant to be with for the "rest of your life" (or something like that).

I personally live by the motto "You learn something new every day". WE ALL learn something new every day, whether we like to or not. We can be an expert in something, but we won't ever stop learning new things and methods. That's what I was trying to tell her after her rude reply to me.

What I can do is pick up his moods (which is sooo annoying) and adopt them as mine. It's very annoying and draining. At one point, I hated having him around. When he was around I felt bounded, depressed, down .. I didn't want to live with him. I now realize I was picking up HIS feelings. Other times when I speak to him on the phone I feel happy, while other times I feel like crying (for no reason!) It's because I'm picking HIS unhappy moods/thoughts..vice versa, happy or sad..

posted July 26, 2012 11:14 AM            

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How is saying "you learn something new every day" ugly at all? Everyone learns new things every day. Don't you agree?

The first ugly bit was her [b]"What can I say? Maybe I am starting to become poor in astrology."

Come on, did she really need to say that? Of course I will be rude after someone replies to me that way. I simply shared what another person said about my composite and her reply was RUDE and ugly.

I had that with an ex, but we didn't last very long at all. It was the craziest thing I've experienced and I thought I was delusional. I've never had that with anyone else afterward.

From my knowledge adn understanding, soul mates are people who enter your life to teach you a powerful lesson (be it right or wrong).
Twin souls on the other hand are people you are meant to be with for the "rest of your life" (or something like that).

I personally live by the motto "You learn something new every day". WE ALL learn something new every day, whether we like to or not. We can be an expert in something, but we won't ever stop learning new things and methods. That's what I was trying to tell her after her rude reply to me.[/B]

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is that why you're getting all lectur-y with me now? i haven't leant anything new from this thread for example.

posted July 26, 2012 11:21 AM            

Well, to me "Maybe I'm becoming poor" was impolite and sarcastic. Being "important" doesn't mean you're always correct. We can't always be correct.

I never said I preferred someone elses interpretation. I was sharing what someone said about my chart. I also shared some links about NN in 5th house, since she portrayed that to be a "Karmic fling" (which ended up confusing me to begin with). Everything else after that was off to me. She made my relationship out to be something extremely negative. Everything she said about it was negative, and that's not true. My relationship is not that negative.

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is that why you're getting all lectur-y with me now? i haven't leant anything new from this thread for example.

"maybe i'm becoming poor" - it's just stepping down. and was not impolite. Ros was an important expert, important enough to address her personally, until you said you preferred someone else's interp over hers. it's pretty take it or leave it for me. surely she had the right to say take it or leave it? what kinda reaction did you expect??

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