posted August 01, 2012 03:05 AM            

Because I am kind of scared and starting to feel suicidal again. The prospect looks absolutely contemptible and deplorable

Please please tell me I'm wrong. Or well I'd be super grateful for anything

posted August 01, 2012 03:20 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
It doesn't mean dating boring unpopular idiots in search of true gold and compromising on my emoitional, erotic and aesthetic needs?

Because I am kind of scared and starting to feel suicidal again. The prospect looks absolutely contemptible and deplorable

Please please tell me I'm wrong. Or well I'd be super grateful for anything

Xx

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posted August 01, 2012 03:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
O7 of cups means shallow partners, deceptive, who arent real. When this card appears in a reading usually shows your expectations regarding them. You may put them on the pedestal thinking that they are perfect when in the reality they arent. Every time I see this card I think of Neptune and Pisces.
The card isnt always that bad as is seems. Don't think on suicide. You have no reason. If you find this kind of guys, have fun and don't think on anything serious until you meet the one you need.

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But it's Venus in Scorpio as well according to some sources? Not much better... I just don't understand why I have to wait longer than others, surely I'm not worse than them? Been in hell too long, would prefer it if it ended ASAP. I don't want short term things, I want to merge spiritually and I can't see why the universe keeps chiding me and denying me the only thing I need. All I know is that I don't deserve this.

posted August 01, 2012 03:28 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
But it's Venus in Scorpio as well according to some sources. I just don't understand why I have to wait longer than others, surely I'm not worse than them? Been in hell too long, would prefer it if it ended ASAP.

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posted August 01, 2012 03:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Venus in Scorpio lol. Since when ilussions has something to do with SCORPIO? Seriously...

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No I agree illusions are Neptune as in The Moon. The element there is is Venus being uncomfortable in Scorpio, manipulation, sexual temptation.... There is a rather fine line between temptation and illusion, the focus shifts. But yeah it is taking one thing for another? Maybe?

posted August 01, 2012 03:55 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
No I agree illusions are Neptune as in The Moon. The element there is is Venus being uncomfortable in Scorpio, manipulation, sexual temptation.... There is a rather fine line between temptation and illusion, the focus shifts. But yeah it is taking one thing for another? Maybe?

I just don't want any temptation that's all. And I got this cr*p twice.

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Manipulation= ilussions=??

posted August 01, 2012 05:17 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
It doesn't mean dating boring unpopular idiots in search of true gold and compromising on my emoitional, erotic and aesthetic needs?

Because I am kind of scared and starting to feel suicidal again. The prospect looks absolutely contemptible and deplorable

Please please tell me I'm wrong. Or well I'd be super grateful for anything

Xx

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I think Rosalind said it quite well. Take the relation for what is it and just don't expect too much and have fun if it's what you want at that moment. It's not the big bad wolf card, but it's just maybe what you don't want at that moment in your life.

I'm no expert, I don't hold the truth It can depend of the context as well. But I would follow Rosalind on that one.

posted August 01, 2012 01:08 PM            

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Originally posted by isabelle_lila:
I think Rosalind said it quite well. Take the relation for what is it and just don't expect too much and have fun if it's what you want at that moment. It's not the big bad wolf card, but it's just maybe what you don't want at that moment in your life.

I'm no expert, I don't hold the truth It can depend of the context as well. But I would follow Rosalind on that one.

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posted August 01, 2012 01:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Manipulation= ilussions=??

I see no connection. Likewise I see no connection between the card and the Scorpio Sign..

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posted August 01, 2012 03:05 PM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
Hey I don't mean to argue or anything. Temptation and deception are about taking one thing for another, that's all. Illusions might be through dreams and other piscean stuff, undeniably. Temptation is about not seeing something because it's not important somehow. It's like a rich man might not notice a girl is after his money and status, assuming she's sincerely in love. Sex is used for manipulation in this example. Not piscean??

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posted August 01, 2012 05:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
No dear one. I wasnt talking about you but of those who are associating the 7 of cups card with Scorpio. In my opinion this association is weird. :|

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Would you mind if I asked what you think about this chimera of Notre Dame on the right in the bottom row? It gives me bloody creeps and makes my skin crawl. Everything else is more or less clear, all of them distract from the draped figure. Or is the draped figure not what it promises to be either? I sense more darkness than
Pisces would be able to accommodate, to be honest

posted August 02, 2012 02:15 AM            

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Originally posted by andstuff:
Would you mind if I asked what you think about this chimera of Notre Dame on the right in the bottom row? It gives me bloody creeps and makes my skin crawl. Everything else is more or less clear, all of them distract from the draped figure. Or is the draped figure not what it promises to be either? I sense more darkness than
Pisces would be able to accommodate, to be honest

PS you're gonna laugh your head off. Crowley said its Venus in Scorpio, I have just found out

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posted August 02, 2012 10:41 AM            

Anyway, I also think that this card represents trying to fool yourself into seeing something as you feel it, or wish it was. It can mean you foolishly only acknowledge the good things about someone or something, and hurt yourself by forgetting the bad. It can mean a castles in the air fantasy that will eventually come crashing down as the clouds that hold the riches and fantasies part and disappear.

posted August 02, 2012 10:53 AM            

The astrological relation can be debated but it does not matter all that much for the meaning of the card is what is most important in this case. There are several interpretations of the astrological position of this card, 5 well known interpretations that I am aware of and they are all different. In tarot, what matters is how the reader interprets the cards based on their knowledge and insight, their "feeling" and sense of knowing combined with the query and the querent's energy. There is no right and wrong, there is only interpretation and individual perspective.

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Yes I agree with Rosalind, this card represents Pisces and Neptune. We see what our heart wants us to see, but what we feel about something or someone isn't always the reality. I was just watching the movie 'Shallow Hal' the other day and the way Hal sees other women reminds me of the 7 of Cups, except he's the shallow one. His shallow attitude is what makes him believe he deserves only the 'best' women. The card also reminds me of how he wishes he could deceive himself into seeing something that isn't real and living in a fantasy world, when he finds out Rosemary is actually obese and not 110 pounds.

Anyway, I also think that this card represents trying to fool yourself into seeing something as you feel it, or wish it was. It can mean you foolishly only acknowledge the good things about someone or something, and hurt yourself by forgetting the bad. It can mean a castles in the air fantasy that will eventually come crashing down as the clouds that hold the riches and fantasies part and disappear.

Please don't be suicidal. This card isn't a terrible card, but rather, something to see as a warning or a wake-up call. It doesn't mean that your partner is an idiot, it doesn't mean you are either. It means that either one of you might be looking at this relationship in a skewed perspective that leads it to be a surface connection, without any of the deeper aspects - and worse parts of yourselves - coming to light.

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posted August 02, 2012 12:09 PM            

If the guy is superficial then it's unreasonable to expect him to have depth. Some people will pass this life without reaching any sort of profound depth of being. Sometimes that takes a couple lifetimes to get to.

No matter how much a prisoner wants to be out in the open air, he won't get that chance. No matter how much a high school drop out wants to be a scientist he won't get that chance.

So no matter how much the superficial guy pretends and claims he has depth, if you can't see, feel, sense it in anyway, he jsut won't have it.

It's difficult to chain yourself up to someone, who is a sinking ship. If you know that relationship is going nowhere then you have to have the COURAGE, WISDOM to bail.

No one wants to leave something familiar but if you don't then it's a never ending battle and it is never a upward looking happy adventure. A sinking ship is not miraculously going to bob up to the top. THat just doesn't happen. Somewhere we try to fool ourselves. I did that. I know it's hard ot let go of an ideal or person. I hate gbs. But it's foolish to grasp for something that never was there.

Wisdom is not built without mistakes, or foolish trials.

Courage is when you fear it the most and still stand up, not when it's the easiest.

Even if you meet a man, who has everything you want and you feel you have a strong connection, then it's paramount that you foster an EVEN deeper connection with your own soul.

See, we don't know who walks in and out of our life, nor do we know who will be there in our time of need. The one person that will always be their for you is your own spirit.

I see that as another person altogether. Someone we don't generally try and connect with. That spirit is so much stronger than you. I hope I don't sound like a loon; I probably do.

But when I get upset with the world, with people, with injustices, I think about that person deep within me that is locked up and wants to be heard and understood by me.

Fact is we look for relationships and outer sources of happiness when instead if we try to truly have a love story with our ownself we would be better off. That person, within you, is going no where. She will never ditch you. She loves you unconditionally.

If you think of it in those terms, it seems to me that we should always emphasize that relationship over other external ones.

Also, I learned that when you least expect it the right things fall into place. I firmly believe that.

Try meditation--it doesn't have to be religious. Also taking a walk being outside the home is a good way to boost your mood. It's been proven.

You attract what you need. You need these superficial guys to finally say, "Enough is enough. I need to reflect and redecorate myself and my thinking."

If you attract what you need and reflect, then when you do a little self work, you will surely find a person "worth waiting for".

Hugs.

posted August 02, 2012 01:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Hey,
So I don't know about tarots etc., but I wanted to say a few things.

If the guy is superficial then it's unreasonable to expect him to have depth. Some people will pass this life without reaching any sort of profound depth of being. Sometimes that takes a couple lifetimes to get to.

No matter how much a prisoner wants to be out in the open air, he won't get that chance. No matter how much a high school drop out wants to be a scientist he won't get that chance.

So no matter how much the superficial guy pretends and claims he has depth, if you can't see, feel, sense it in anyway, he jsut won't have it.

It's difficult to chain yourself up to someone, who is a sinking ship. If you know that relationship is going nowhere then you have to have the COURAGE, WISDOM to bail.

No one wants to leave something familiar but if you don't then it's a never ending battle and it is never a upward looking happy adventure. A sinking ship is not miraculously going to bob up to the top. THat just doesn't happen. Somewhere we try to fool ourselves. I did that. I know it's hard ot let go of an ideal or person. I hate gbs. But it's foolish to grasp for something that never was there.

Wisdom is not built without mistakes, or foolish trials.

Courage is when you fear it the most and still stand up, not when it's the easiest.

Even if you meet a man, who has everything you want and you feel you have a strong connection, then it's paramount that you foster an EVEN deeper connection with your own soul.

See, we don't know who walks in and out of our life, nor do we know who will be there in our time of need. The one person that will always be their for you is your own spirit.

I see that as another person altogether. Someone we don't generally try and connect with. That spirit is so much stronger than you. I hope I don't sound like a loon; I probably do.

But when I get upset with the world, with people, with injustices, I think about that person deep within me that is locked up and wants to be heard and understood by me.

Fact is we look for relationships and outer sources of happiness when instead if we try to truly have a love story with our ownself we would be better off. That person, within you, is going no where. She will never ditch you. She loves you unconditionally.

If you think of it in those terms, it seems to me that we should always emphasize that relationship over other external ones.

Also, I learned that when you least expect it the right things fall into place. I firmly believe that.

Try meditation--it doesn't have to be religious. Also taking a walk being outside the home is a good way to boost your mood. It's been proven.

You attract what you need. You need these superficial guys to finally say, "Enough is enough. I need to reflect and redecorate myself and my thinking."

If you attract what you need and reflect, then when you do a little self work, you will surely find a person "worth waiting for".

Hugs.

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Hey

Thanks for taking your time to be kind towards me

My story happens to be different. 2 years ago I had crazy stuff going on with someone, divine love as they call it. Then he started going downhill and I couldn't stop him, he started avoiding me because he thought he'd ruin me, I have been in hell ever since. I haven't met anyone I'd be remotely interested in, I can't have sex or anything just because it used to be like touching the absolute, i know I would only be able to be dismissive of whoever is just not my lover who is a total wreck these days and I haven't set eyes on him for aeons.

I just want someone to feel the same way about, this is the only thing I need. And instead the world is full of crashing bores. All sorts come for me and all I feel for every single one of them is disgust. So there is no one in my life at the moment. I am aware of just one thing : it is everyone else's fault they have nothing to make me fall in love. I am the one who chooses. I have done this thing about the person you're gonna marry, will post soon, I mostly use my phone to go online at the moment and not much Internet access

posted August 02, 2012 01:05 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Yes I agree with Rosalind, this card represents Pisces and Neptune. We see what our heart wants us to see, but what we feel about something or someone isn't always the reality. I was just watching the movie 'Shallow Hal' the other day and the way Hal sees other women reminds me of the 7 of Cups, except he's the shallow one. His shallow attitude is what makes him believe he deserves only the 'best' women. The card also reminds me of how he wishes he could deceive himself into seeing something that isn't real and living in a fantasy world, when he finds out Rosemary is actually obese and not 110 pounds.

Anyway, I also think that this card represents trying to fool yourself into seeing something as you feel it, or wish it was. It can mean you foolishly only acknowledge the good things about someone or something, and hurt yourself by forgetting the bad. It can mean a castles in the air fantasy that will eventually come crashing down as the clouds that hold the riches and fantasies part and disappear.

Please don't be suicidal. This card isn't a terrible card, but rather, something to see as a warning or a wake-up call. It doesn't mean that your partner is an idiot, it doesn't mean you are either. It means that either one of you might be looking at this relationship in a skewed perspective that leads it to be a surface connection, without any of the deeper aspects - and worse parts of yourselves - coming to light.

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Hey sounds interesting but the thing is the question was about future lovers and opportunities. At the moment there is definitely nobody I would bother to consider considering yes I am too cool for school and allowed to say this kinda thing. I have a bloody list of bloody aesthetic and emotional needs. If others wanna compromise on these I dont. No one has passed the selection so far. There used to be people who did, so they exist

As for your interp it might be interesting, but it doesn't really describe what's going on in my life