posted August 03, 2012 11:57 PM            

I try to be objective when i read for myself, but all i see is doom and gloom and then doubt started getting the best of me and i went ahead and did a traditional spread... Iam hoping if you could take a minute to help me understand the "fool" when it falls under the how he feels about you position...

The spread is your typical relationship spread.
Question the current status between me and him.

How you see yourself: world
How you see your partner: sun rx
How you feel about your partner: 6 of pentacles
What stands between you and your partner (challenge): 9 of cups
How your partner(him) sees you: emperor rx
How your partner feels about you: fool
Current status of the relationship (the middle card): justice

I waffle with the 9 of cups being a wish card... To me its a card that has evolved to meaning that one holds all the power and is being selfish by with holding his emotions from another (cups =feelings)

I like your honest take on cards in the readings you have done on this forum, so if you have a free moment, I would like your imput

posted August 04, 2012 03:15 AM            

Well the Fool is an enchanted fortune, flamboyant and protected by higher powers. Dangers are nothing but adventurous situations for him from which he comes out unscathed.

So if I may be so bold so as to say this, he might see you as some person who has a certain vibe, a certain cinematic element that you bring into the lives of people around you.

Also this opaque txt by Mr Waite

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In his Manual of Cartomancy, Grand Orient has a curious suggestion of the office of Mystic Fool, as apart of his process in higher divination; but it might call for more than ordinary gifts to put it into operation. We shall see how the card fares according to the common arts of fortune-telling, and it will be an example, to those who can discern, of the fact, otherwise so evident, that the Trumps Major had no place originally in the arts of psychic gambling, when cards are used as the counters and pretexts. Of the circumstances under which this art arose we know, however, very little. The conventional explanations say that the Fool signifies the flesh, the sensitive life, and by a peculiar satire its subsidiary name was at one time the alchemist, as depicting folly at the most insensate stage.

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There's also some mention of angels that are definitely gonna catch him if he falls. He is truly blessed.

If the alchemist bit is true, he might see you as an idealist perhaps, a person in search of something beautiful and unattainable.

What do you think ??

posted August 04, 2012 03:27 AM            

Interesting... Ill have to let that sink in for a minute before i come back with a reply...

But originally my usual take on the fool... Is that he is looking for a new start/adventure a new begining... I get stuck on the feeling part as since its a "0" card... Its still in its early stages. Too early to tell how he feels, the adventure has barely begun... Meaning he has barely dug into the depths of his heart and soul about his true raw feelings for me. Also in general to me the fool is a take on a zest for life, maybe keeping options open for anyone. So its a free for all... Can be Anyones for the taking.

posted August 04, 2012 03:45 AM            

You see him as the sun Rx? Are you really examining where this is going and where you want to be? Are you questioning whether he is the right person?

Do you feel 6 pents about him? Who is sharing the breadcrumbs, you or him?

And who is the Emperor Rx? Does he feel youre controlling him or is he the one controlling you in a manner that is unhealthy?

There are many roles here the distrubution of which can only be clear to you. What seems more likely?

posted August 04, 2012 04:04 AM            

The 6 of pents confused me too... But i think wanting a balance of give and take.

The emperor rx i guess he is "controlling" since he is the one with the grudge/stonewalling.

The justice actually didnt throw me off... This one is spot on. A trial is needed to air out our grivences to each other and come to a just understanding/solution.

posted August 04, 2012 05:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Sun rx. Yes i feel very pessimistic. Instead of warm sunny days its nothing but dark grey rainy clouds on my end.

The 6 of pents confused me too... But i think wanting a balance of give and take.

The emperor rx i guess he is "controlling" since he is the one with the grudge/stonewalling.

The justice actually didnt throw me off... This one is spot on. A trial is needed to air out our grivences to each other and come to a just understanding/solution.

I just needed another viewpoint... Since its hard being unclouded when reading for oneself. And i like your method and reading style, thats all

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posted August 04, 2012 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Interesting... Ill have to think on that and see how it might apply further to my situation....do something unforseen In a good way or bad?

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Ah well some men don't like realising a girl is too charismatic. They see it as a threat tO their sense of self importance since they are reminded they aren't that cool. Whereas they enjoy a feeling of superiority. And it's also easy to lose her to someone in her league. and her thing might be over his head. Fear of not understanding. So these power games start.

Can't think of examples from films, but you might know what I mean

Alternatively he might see you as this unattainable gold he's reaching out for (emperor and alchemy) and trying to appropriate

posted August 04, 2012 11:51 AM            

Iam not sure if iam an attainable goal tho... I feel the reverse. Like he is unattainable to me. Since he is the one holdig a grudge/stonewalling. Ive reached out but been ignored its not even a bad thing that he is grudging against. Like you said likes being in charge and dolling out his attention on his terms... A total butthead. I should be viewing him as the emperor rx not him me

Outside a traditional spread I havent quite figured out how to tell who is who... Its kinda hit and miss for me. But i try and go with the energy of the card. If ithe cards are more male guided then its more dominat and vice versa.