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originally posted: August 02, 2012 12:43 PM
http://www.scribd.com/doc/101841877/Isabell-lila-07-31-12-Reading0001

Isabelle_lila Reading 07.31.12

Thursday, August 02, 2012
8:36 AM

Face Cards in Shuffle:
Strength Reversed
Judgement
III Cups Reversed

Cards that flipped over or popped out while shuffling:
The Fool Reversed flipped over.
4 of Swords flipped over.

Bottom card on deck:
King of Wands and he slipped out, next to him is the Knight of Pentacles Reversed. (The Knight of Pentacles Reversed is a "cheater").

The Spread:

Significator: Knight of Swords
Situation: Knight of Cups
Challenge:VIII Pentacles
Focus: IX Pentacles Reversed
Viel: VII Cups Reversed
Past Energy: XVII The Star
Present/Future Energy: IX Swords
Base of Staff: IV Wands
Environment: XIV Temperance Reversed
Advise/Hopes/Fears: IX Cups
Outcome: King of Swords
12th Card: XIX The Sun

Angel Cards:
Miracles flipped out and onto the floor.
Signs & Celebration flipped over together.

Trust; Guardian Angel; Listening

Isabelle,

What stands out the most to me about this reading is the up-and-down nature of the cards! Positive- negative, positive- negative. Two Knights in a reading indicates explosive events and circumstances, unstable situations and forceful communications. Whoah. The VIII (8) of Pentacles is the challenge and the 8 of Pentacles is quality in one's output/work, superb craftsmanship, the will is concentrated and meticulous, pride in one's work, and stresses a healthy perfectionsism, and great problem solving abilities brought to the situation.

The situation, the Knight of Cups who is Pisces, Air (thoughts) in Water (emotions); communicating one's feelings.

The significator, however, is the Knight of Swords, Air in Air, and he's turbulent like a tornado, lack of restraint in thinking - mutable Gemini. He thrusts out ahead against all adversity which is not bad but his challenge is to learn contentment and reflection and not always rev up for the joust. In a violent storm, the Knight swings his sword as he's charging ahead. He's so preoccupied with revving up for the joust (fight, debate, volatile communications) he doesn't realize that he rustled up anger and ruthlessness in the dusty whirlwind he creates as he charges through the storm. His challenge here is the 8 of Pentacles and that is quality in whatever he does. The situation, the Knight of Cups, is mystical and a visionary as well as an artist. He/she is a skillful communicator, balanced, harmonious, and filled with the beauty of nature and expressive in many ways such as in poetry, music, dancing, and dreaming.

The "focus" of the Knight of Swords is the IX (9) Pentacles Reversed. The 9 of Pentacles Reversed is someone who has erected a facade . They are self-indulgent and self-deceptive and fixated on the material. The needs of their soul are neglected in their pursuit in the material world. They have a jaded attitude and become easily bored.

The veil beneath the situation is the 7 of Cups Reversed. This represents dreams that are directed to reaching a particular destination and this person's planning is not affected by mood. The 7 of Cups upright is afflicted, but reversed this card indicates clear thinking, light heartedness, and the strong passionate nature comfortably under control.

The Past energy surrounding the issue is the XVII (17) Star. The future Energy that may already be the present energy is the IX (9) Swords. As with the Knight of Swords and the Knight of Cups, and the 9 of Pentacles Reversed and the 7 of Pentacles Reversed, these two cards are polar opposite of the other. The Star in conjunction with the 8 of Pentacles indicates that spiritual qualities influence the structure of the project/work. (There are multiple meanings in this spread and it relates to multiple individuals).

The base of the staff is the IV (4) Wands. This is how the significator (or you) views the situation. This is successful completion of an undertaking, a successful endeavor, reaching a goal, efforts rewarded, peaceful atmosphere in the home life, or an oasis in the midst of turbulence (Knight of Cups). It is celebration, and the possibilities of entertaining guests.

However, The environment surrounding the issue and how the significator is seen by others is XIV (14) Temperance Reversed, and, again, this is polar opposite of the 4 of Wands. Temperance Reversed is excessive, he is intolerant of opposing opinions, opportunistic and has blind faith. He's insensitive to the feelings of others; self-righteous (Knight of Swords) who is restless and needs stimulating experiences because they become easily bored. He refuses to take the test life offers and therefore there is stuck in setback and retreat (this is the 2nd man in the boat, the trouble maker who the first person in the boat follows that slows down the rest of the team deliberately). This person thrives on conflict.

The advise/hopes/fear is IX (9) Cups. The 9 of Cups is happiness and well being a man enjoying the fruits of his labor without becoming satiated. However, crossing XIV Temperance Reversed who is over indulgent, there is a caution here to be aware of your surrounding influences. The 9 of Cups is also "the wish comes true". He is pride in past achievements, sociability, good health, prosperity and growth, emotional tranquility. He is a reminder here to enjoy the good life but don't get too comfortable for there is a lot yet to accomplish. He says to be proud of your success but never lord them over others; never say I'm more experienced than you therefore that makes me right. If another is less ambitious than you, it doesn't mean anything other than they are on a different path than you, that's all.

Your outcome is the King of Swords. The King of Sword is intellectual. He is a powerful commander and he can be forbidding as his swords cuts through to the truth and he renders his judgement. He is the unfeeling letter of the law. He loves to debate and his intelligence provides for great skill in debating and he is not concerned about the "feelings" of others whom he may engage. He is brutally honest and with tremendous wit. He is rational and determined; wisdom in action with quick mental ability. He makes for a great unbiased counselor though he is emotionally aloof. He is professorial in his demeanor.

The 12th card that I use mostly as a clarifier is XIX (19) The Sun. The Sun is always a dazzling influence and is so free and fun. The Sun will relieve the burdens and guilty consciousness of the 9 of Swords. The sun indicates growth and awakening, a person who is self-motivated toward improving their inner being - independence and free of negativity.

Your Angel Cards were "Trust" - "Guardian Angel" and "Listening".

Trust is telling you to "believe in yourself". You've been disappointed in the past before but don't let that damage your faith in yourself and your ability to succeed and achieve what you want (Knight of Cups, emotions). Trust in yourself and don't let past mistakes be your guide through fear of your mistakes. We all make mistakes so don't sweat the mistakes. We are here to learn and mistakes help us to do just that. Believe in yourself (The Star and 9 of Cups).

Guardian Angel - You are not alone and you have spiritual help always. You deserve their help and don't be afraid to ask for it. They are always here to help you whenever you need it, just ask.

Listening - You are in communications with spirit and you are receiving messages, don't doubt them, TRUST in them. Coincidentally, and interestingly, "Listening" is the first thing I heard when tapping into spirit about your reading, and I will get to what they were trying to tell me so I could pass that along to you.

This "listening" is associated with the "team" and how everyone on the team is working toward the same goal, except this one person, it was a man. This man was going against the efforts of the team to move forward in the boat on the water (he was the troublemaker). This is all symbolic. Water is emotion. The water was calm but the boat was almost like a team in a "race" all rowing to the finish line to get "the win". The 2nd person at the front of the boat was deliberately going against the flow to create problems. The person in the lead, was following and copying what the 2nd person did. So, the two of them were working against the team as a whole. The first person was initially working with the team but then chose to follow the 2nd person once they began to go the opposite way. This is the positive-negative, positive-negative action I see in the cards. The up-down, up-down. This is the explosive nature and the "forceful communications" of having two knights together, one who is peacefully communicating and the other who is forceful and rustling up anger and resentment in his pursuit to charge forward into battle.

This troublemaker is saying: "these things", "Lies!" "I think I will…" "Wrong Universe!" This is ALL related to the communications on this LL forum. This guy is spitting these statements out as he reads what we all say to each other through our readings. This person creates problems and stirs the pot, and he does it deliberately. His is a goal to disrupt. He (Knight of Swords) is in disguise as a woman (IX Pentacles). The Knight of Cups (Pisces) sees quite clearly what is going on here. The intent is to disrupt the flow of emotion and prevent the truth from being seen. The end result here, the "outcome" is the King of Swords, and he is the unfeeling letter of the Law. The Sun assures ALL of us that the result will be good for the team. The team are the rest of the forum contributors who are truly and honestly seeking to improve their inner well being and walk the path toward truth with the help of the rest of the team and we are all trying to learn from each other.

The boat oars being represented as "toothbrushes" means all the "screen names" in the forum. A toothbrush protects your teeth from rotting and keeps them clean. "Teeth" are forensically symbolic to "identities".

Spirit is always multi-faceted and things mean multiple things at the same time. The reason it took me so long to complete your reading was because I was stuck on the symbolism as I thought all this symbolism related to my project. After stepping away from it for a couple of days, as is always the case, after I let it go, I come to see it for what it is. So many times I get stuck in the actuals of the visions rather than seeing the symbolic significance. Doing your reading made me realize something VERY important with respect to the symbolism and what it's been telling me these past 5.5 years, something I had been struggling with. NOW I see it SO CLEARLY!! Thank you, Isabelle!

I discovered this forum because I was tracking someone, an imposture. I knew the toothbrushes were symbolic to protecting an identity but now I realize that this is an INTERNET IDENTITY! I must thank you for that, Isabelle, because your reading is what lead me to that very significantly important understanding that will help me to complete my project.

As to YOUR questions regarding love, the message here is to continue to strive for integrity in all that you do. Continue to work on your inner being and be at peace with who you are and know you are good. In your pursuit to find spiritual truth, you will find the person who is right for you. Trust in what comes your way and trust that when it leaves, it is for a very good reason. Don't dwell on past mistakes and losses, look to the future and move forward always in pursuit of truth and by doing so, you will find what is exactly right for you and you will recognize that as well. It is also telling you to be aware of your choice of influence . If you strive to always look for truth in everything, then when presented with falsities, you will clearly be able to see them for precisely what they are and in that, you will no longer be confused about anything; you will see quite clearly!

I hope this helps you and I wish you all the best to come. I see good things in your future.

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This is a link to the original posting of the reading: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/003900-6.html

Fore reference only: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/004003.html
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posted August 07, 2012 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought I should be posting these independently so comments made can be directed and recorded according to a specific reading for later review.

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posted August 07, 2012 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for isabelle_lila     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whereabouts:
I thought I should be posting these independently so comments made can be directed and recorded according to a specific reading for later review.


it's a good idea since there have been references to this reading in other treads. So I could put everything here and finally have a clearer image

I think you gave me some precision about on the game reading thread. I will have to look at it.

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posted August 07, 2012 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Precisely, as that was my intent.

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Originally posted by isabelle_lila:
it's a good idea since there have been references to this reading in other treads. So I could put everything here and finally have a clearer image

I think you gave me some precision about on the game reading thread. I will have to look at it.


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posted August 08, 2012 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for isabelle_lila     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by isabelle_lila:

NEW NEW QUESTIONS

Sorry I will add new questions since things have change a little bit.

1) Will this literacy challenge will be a breakthrough month for me emotionally, artistically, spiritually ?

2) My project is a book for children/young adult about a world where animals are divided between the 4 primal elements air, water, earth, fire and the daughter of an eagle who don't find to which element she is part. She will have a lot of trial and will discover that she can survive every element because she is a phoenix. And I will illustrate it at the same time
How do you feel it ? What should I know about it ?

3) I want to change job. Is it the right moment ? Should I prospect now (this month) or after the summer ?

4) In what kind of department, domain, kind of company, job, do you see me searching this summer ?

5) Is F my ex aware of my agression in june ?

6) I will received 3 writers at my parents house tomorrow. How it will go ?

7) What could you tell me about my friend Louise in general ? She is mad after me because tomorrow others writers will come to my house and she was thinking that we will be alone, will she calm down ? Will she pardon me ?


Thank you for your readings, whatever information you could give me.

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Whereabouts answer Q3:

Isabelle, in the reading I provided to you today, I indicated that you may be entertaining guests and that it was an oasis in the midst of turbulence, and it appears that is exactly what is happening. you will be having guests over and it showed to me that that would be very pleasant and very good for you.

Cheer up!

answer isabelle_lila :
There is really a problem of understanding for me today. I understand everything in black (just read what junethird write to me and what I understood).

As for the gest, you did tell me about it but I understood that problems will begins by this reunion of writer and not that it will be a good day.
I understand everything in the negative
It's incredible ! I'm optimistic normally. Why I'm so dark today ?

Thank you whereabouts for the reminder that not everything will be darkness the next 4 days.
I stress for those days because I will be with my sister Marion...

Thanks again ! Maybe I should re-read your reading later with a more objective mind.

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Isabelle, we all get out-of-sorts every once in awhile. Don't worry about it and just relax and let it pass, as it will. Yes, when you're feeling up to it and thinking more clearly, do read the reading again. maybe then things will be different. I did say that the meeting would be GOOD, an "oasis in the midst of turbulence" is GOOD.

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quote:Originally posted by isabelle_lila:
NEW NEW Q

Lots of questions ! Sorry.

1) Will this literacy challenge will be a breakthrough month for me emotionally, artistically, spiritually ?

2) My project is a book for children/young adult about a world where animals are divided between the 4 primal elements air, water, earth, fire and the daughter of an eagle who don't find to which element she is part. She will have a lot of trial and will discover that she can survive every element because she is a phoenix. And I will illustrate it at the same time
How do you feel it ? What should I know about it ?

3) I want to change job. Is it the right moment ? Should I prospect now (this month) or after the summer ?

4) In what kind of department, domain, kind of company, job, do you see me searching this summer ?

5) Is F my ex aware of my agression in june ?

Thank you for your readings


quote:Originally posted by PhoenixFire:
Pulled out 7 cards this time, as felt more clarification was needed. Cards are the sun, 4 cups, knight swords, ace cups, strength, hanged man, page of wands.

If Im remembering correctly, someone else pulled the sun card in a reading for you recently? The Sun tells me the literary challenge is very good for you & your creativity is coming back strong after a period of rest. Your book sounds fascinating, mythical creatures and quests are very interesting subjects for children.

Feeling your mind/feelings are strong w F, and he is able to pick up on this as despite his poor decisions he does still have feelings for you. You may be hearing something about him soon. You are very strong and will brave the storm well if you run into him. A message regarding possible job change is coming soon. The hanged man advices to think it very carefully, as there is an even better opportunity coming later, if you wait it out. Get plenty of rest, as this is going to be a very busy month w lots of social contact. you may be introduced to a person who will have a strong attraction for you very soon.


Whereabouts answer :

Isabelle, the Page of Wands is "enthusiastic" and usually a "good sign". I also felt when I saw the Page of Wands here that you had a younger sister. I just saw on another thread that you do have a younger sister. I also see that you work in the "Law Department", that's the King of Swords - the unfeeling letter of the Law and he was next to the 9 of Cups -happiness, the wish comes true card- and the Sun! These are good things! Your spirit is down and you are not seeing the positive you have right before you.

Also, I see the Knight of Swords came up in this reading as well. I think someone else also pulled the Knight of Swords for you. This Knight of Swords is the source of the polar opposite feelings of your normal self, the depression you're feeling rather than your typical optimism and happiness. Take this as a sign. However a man makes you feel now, later on he will make you feel the same but magnified or multiplied. Take it for the sign that it is. You should not be feeling this way but, also, feeling this way is a "choice" you have made. If an individual knows how much emotional pain you are in and you look to them for support when you really, really need it, and they abandon you and ignore your pleas for the help you really need, that is a SIGN. It is a sign to recognize what you DON'T want in the long run for that is precisely what you will get. He is being selfish and you are struggling when you have an opportunity to learn from the past to help you to see clearly and to move forward with enthusiasm. You have such good things coming in your near future. Let him go so you can experience the joy that you are surrounded by.

Move forward and try to stop thinking about him for it is depressing you and you are going from a bubbly, enthusiastic, happy, caring individual, to a depressed, sad, emotionally helpless person struggling with grief while in morning. You have such good things around you and to feel better all you have to do is choose to see all the good you are surrounded with and cherish that good and not dwell on the bad. When our guides and angels take something away from us, they do it for a reason, a reason that is to HELP you. It may seem tragic and at the immediate moment you cannot understand why but you're not supposed to understand why right now. You're supposed to TRUST that your angels do what is best for you. TRUST in that and let him go for he is bringing you down to a place you don't belong.

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posted August 08, 2012 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for isabelle_lila     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
isabelle_lila answer :

Thank you for your insigh. I think I'm capable to see what you mean today after a better day (yesterday), to appreciate the good around me and to not forget that I have in me the capacity to turn a bad situation into something a bit more positive and that I can attract the good and enjoy it even if after I still have bad thing to deal with. I'm normally a creator of joy in people and some men make me forget (not F this time).

For F, it will be more complex because he touch my mind, my heard and my soul. It's a lot to clean.

For the law, I just hope it's not what I'm destinated to do all my professional life.

Beautiful words from you. Thank you whereabouts.

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whereabouts answer :

Isabelle, I did your reading, drew the cards but I'm still interpreting it. Work does appear as your challenge (8 of Pentacles) but there was nothing in there about communications (2s represent communications). You did get both the Sun and the Star card! And four 9s! 9s are attainment, reaching goals, and success! The King of Swords was your outcome next to the 12th card of the Sun. The King of Swords is the extreme letter of the Law but this is next to the Sun and preceded by the 9 of Cups (Happiness - Pisces), both being VERY good.

Maybe the legal thing you got with me was actually for you?

Once I have completed my take on what this all means, I will post the full reading here. Give me time, please.


whereabouts answer:
Isabelle, I'm going to need a bit of time on this particular reading for it is very interesting and quite intriguing, to say the least.

A couple of things for you to know:

Regarding your work. Everyone on the team is all working in unison to complete a project. You see the project through to completion, there will be success, very much so. However, there are two people on the team who are not working with the team and their actions go against the forward motion of the team - slows the team's progress down. These two are in the front, leading. The lead person actually follows and goes along with the trouble maker behind him/her who is in the 2nd position. This guy goes against the team and is able to persuade the ding-bat in the lead to follow his foolish actions which are against the team, meaning it's against "the win". This person is full of self-gratification and this no good for the team. Judgement will come and smooth it all out and all the gossip and hearsay will be exposed for exactly what it is, nothing more that BS.

More when I can. This one will take a bit of time to spell it all out but the end result is VERY GOOD.


Isabelle_lila answer :

Hello whereabouts,

no problem for the waiting. I'm all for doing thing at the right pace and time (even if I'm very curious ).
Today have been difficult because I had to put my head once again in struggle for power and position, administrative problem, finance etc... I was draine. But At the same time, if you had followed my adventure with the literary association, it was beginning tomorrow and I had to decide if I wanted to invest myself and rally everybody (send email etc...) or let it just go like that. I invest, I email and communicate and in the end I rallied lots of people and very motivated one I will tell that in our topic "reading game" for the people who nicely answered my question about it.

For the work, for the moment I'm on leave of absence signed by a doctor. And they think I will still need between one to three months to heal (more like three in fact).

So when you speak about work, I think about more about the literary association or about a change of job in the end of my leave of absence.

Or the law could represent the fact that I could be assisted to go to the police to said what happened to me, or to have advice by a labor lawyer about my right during my leave of absence, or because I'm very interested by human rights in general and would love to be more involved, or because I have some litigation with some phone company etc...

And Pisces is my ex F. He is pisces rising virgo but with lots and lots of pisces in his charts. And I'm a libra with pisces rising.

I hope it help you with the reading. Thank you so much for all the work you are doing for me. it's huge.


isabelle_lila answer:
Hi again,

I'm relived that it's because my reading is interesting that you need time than for any other reason

When you speak about the project, I think about the literary association. it's a writing challenge in 1 month to write a novel of 50k. Each writer choose his subject. Nothing is imposed. It's free. There is about 2000 people doing it in france (but a lot stop during the month) and 300 000 in the world.
It's individual and collective And I love it. For the challenge of august, I want to write a story for children or young adult about a young femal phenix who don't find her elemental (air, fire, earth, water) family and illustrated by painting.

I hope it right true for you and will help your intuition and reading.

For the people in the back, I think of two people who could cause trouble for me : one is nicolas who treatened me last year and was expelled and aby (an ex friend who had probably some sexual interest in F my ex and would like to have my place as representative for France). maybe there is also cynthia who is nicolas ex, but I love her very much and she so sweet that I will be heartbreak if it was her. But she is also friend with aby...

I don't think it's in my real working place that there is this dram. Except Julie (a lawyer) who could be something a little too envious and sensitive, people are quite nice. And my boss Alice is very understanding of what is happening to me.

I hoped I helped you more than I confused you.

whereabouts answer :
You did not confuse me. The two were on your "team" the 2nd from the front was the one not going along with the team and his actions went against the flow of the team. The one in the first chair or position followed the second person and did what "he" did. The 1st chair/seat/position may have been female but I am not certain. They were all on the same team, working for the win or to win.

isabelle_lila answer :
I think I am the one who is confuse now If it could help, the threatening part was in laxt november and a few of people (cynthia, emeline, lilibel) were feeling cut in two between this men (Nicolas) who said horrible things on me and me who decided to not go in his game. He was saying that I should be replace or having a second person to be the representative. And Cynthia & emeline & aby agreed with that.

This time, I know that Aby & emeline want my place as representative.

I didn't know that my reading will be so oriented toward my extra activities like writing.

Good luck with my reading.


whereaouts answer :
If your writing is a team effort, then I would gather those symbols were geared toward your literature but I'm not picking that up. This is work, with a team, like in a boat race where each team member has a set of oars. The entire team is moving together, in sync, as one EXCEPT the 2nd person, the one in the second "chair" or "position". The person in the "lead" position" is a puppet to the one in the 2nd position and does what he does. he goes against the flow and causes trouble and it appears he does this deliberately. The lead person just follows him because they are blinded to the truth.

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quote:Originally posted by whereabouts:
If your writing is a team effort, then I would gather those symbols were geared toward your literature but I'm not picking that up. This is work, with a team, like in a boat race where each team member has a set of oars. The entire team is moving together, in sync, as one EXCEPT the 2nd person, the one in the second "chair" or "position". The person in the "lead" position" is a puppet to the one in the 2nd position and does what he does. he goes against the flow and causes trouble and it appears he does this deliberately. The lead person just follows him because they are blinded to the truth.

isabelle_lila answer:

Hi Whereabouts,

I don't see what it could be because the literacy challenge is at the same time personal because each people write his own story. And for the rest, it's more like a community. So it's not what you are describing.

As for my work, each person as his/her own thematic. And my boss Alice is really the boss of the legal department. So I don't see that at all. Maybe Julie can be a little too much but she is not running thing against anyone.

Maybe a new job ? Or a new project for me ?

Also my father who know lots of politician in france and have been very involved, have talk about me to one our equivalent of a US senator. She is a woman and have been raped and would like to organized on one of the biggest tv channel a emission (show ? ) about this theme and would like for me to participate. It's not sure to be organized and for the moment I'm not ready. Maybe there could be a link ?

have a nice day

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whereaouts answer :

Isabell_lila, Here is a link to your reading and I am compiling the text explaining it now. I'll post a complete reading when I am finished. http://www.scribd.com/doc/101841877/Isabell-lila-07-31-12-Reading0001

Novembermuse & Isabelle_lila,

I now understand the symbols relating to work. This is NOT your work but MINE, however; it is associated with you and I will explain first in Isabelle's reading then further in Novembermuse's once I've completed Isabelle's.

quote:Originally posted by whereabouts:
Isabell_lila, Here is a link to your reading and I am compiling the text explaining it now. I'll post a complete reading when I am finished.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/101841877/Isabell-lila-07-31-12-Reading0001


isabelle_lila answer:

thank you. I love the little drawing with it. I'm so happy that you share that with us

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posted August 08, 2012 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for isabelle_lila     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:Originally posted by whereabouts:
You are most welcome, Isabelle. It helped both of us, as good deeds always do.


isabelle_lila answer:

I read it and because I may be very emotional tonight (a problem with a friend,my ex F, tension between my parents etc...) I don't understand everything.

I don't know who I am (the knight of cup ?) and maybe the knight of sword is F (looks like him).

Tonight I don't seem to get the details as well as the big picture.

I understand what you said about a man disguise in a woman on this forum but for what purpose, and what is link to me ?

I feel like I'm lost even if I understand the word, I cannot get a feeling from it. It's very bizzare. I don't know what concern my professional life or my private life.

I see all the work you did and the analysis but I feel like totally deconnected from it for the moment.

As I said before, maybe my state of mind could not permit me to see.

Thank you for all your help. You know I appreciate so much your readings. But tonight, clarity is escaping me. I don't know you I am and what is related to me and why

whereaoubts answer:
The truth, whatever that may be will present itself in time and then there will be clarity.

As to the forum troll in disguise, that was not directly related to you but indirectly only because you are a part of this forum. it was more a message for me but very interestingly came up in your reading. The truth may not be easy to see but in time, it always shows itself. I don't fret about things I don't yet understand for I know in time I will. If I realize something about this, i will let you know ASAP. If you realize something, please let me know when you can and therefore we both can learn from the experience.

I have learned from following the cards closely to real life, that the message is absolute and only the interpretation gets skewed.

Your reading did indicate a gathering of some sort, entertaining guests maybe. Possibly this is the emerging conflict? I don't know but it does show up-down, up-down, up-down along with forceful communications. Take it all with a grain of salt and don't fret over it because in the end, it will all work out perfectly.

And, yes, as Junethird predicted, communications hit a brick wall.

That's okay, it simply means delays. She was spot on.

isabelle_lila answer:

Of course I will let you know if something make sens in my life or suddenly in my minde

Tomorrow I have some writers who will come to write in my garden and one of my closest friend take it wrongly because she thought it will be just her and me. And she don't want to come anymore in my house. And so it began...
and all this month, I will have to motive, entertaine and organize for the literacy challenge.
So maybe it related to that. I don't know. I'm just feeling sad.

whereaouts answer:
Remember, it all works out very well - The Sun and the 9 of Cups!

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posted August 08, 2012 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for isabelle_lila     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:Originally posted by whereabouts:
If she is a true friend, she will understand or at least learn to understand. Just talk about it openly with her.

I wanted you to know that we spoke together today because of yet another misunderstanding. But it help to clear the air for the first problem. And even if she is on reserved, she is not mad at me or anything. She understand I need to think about me in first for the time being.
For the moment, she prefere to sleep in her cave and don't go out. But I hope it will change soon and we find time to have girls time just her and me.

So on this part i'm better, much better. I wanted you to know. Not everything thing is reselved, far from it, but at least, one problem less. And you were right, she is a true friend but she just has her own problem at the same time.

Thank you. I hope your project continue to go in the direc

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quote:Originally posted by whereabouts:
The truth, whatever that may be will present itself in time and then there will be clarity.

As to the forum troll in disguise, that was not directly related to you but indirectly only because you are a part of this forum. it was more a message for me but very interestingly came up in your reading. The truth may not be easy to see but in time, it always shows itself. I don't fret about things I don't yet understand for I know in time I will. If I realize something about this, i will let you know ASAP. If you realize something, please let me know when you can and therefore we both can learn from the experience.

I have learned from following the cards closely to real life, that the message is absolute and only the interpretation gets skewed.

Your reading did indicate a gathering of some sort, entertaining guests maybe. Possibly this is the emerging conflict? I don't know but it does show up-down, up-down, up-down along with forceful communications. Take it all with a grain of salt and don't fret over it because in the end, it will all work out perfectly.

Yesterday the gathering was a success. Not a lot of people but a very good mood and a good time for everyone.
It gave me great energy and my creativity is coming back piece by piece.
But my sister, I don't know why she still has this negative influence on me, stresses me as soon as she arrived.

For the moment, lots and lots of communication for me (twitter, email, chat, forum etc... about writing and the challenges), draining yes but not forceful as of today.

I will have another gathering tomorrow with the same people so everything should be good too.

And I will organize a big one at the end of the months from 27 to 31 august. So I hope, this one will be a definite success.

Thank for your perspective when I read everything in black. I re-read your reading tomorrow probably. I will be more my old self with the writing and of those creativity around me.

Hug & kisses for you and your son. Hope you are well.

Originally posted by PhoenixFire:
Isabelle, Im glad to hear your gathering was a sucess and your friend is starting to come around.

Whereabouts, good luck on your project Im still intrigued by the garden thread.

Thank you !

and on the NEWS side : there are still problem with the flat of my sister... delays !

I'm a bit late on the reading front but I want to do it as well as I can so not to mess with hopes and fears. But if everything works well tomorrow, I think my neutral thinking and my understandind will be back

In the meantime, I wish you the best. You had always had some positive words to express to me (thanks) and I wanted to send you some good feelings and thanking and positive thinking.

I hope to have some (good)news from you soon.

whareabouts answer:
Isabelle, thank you for the update. I am pleased you resolved one issue and helped to clear the air a bit, and that at least one thing is better. It will work out as you two are very good friends and that won't leave either of you.

And, thank you for your good wishes for my project. I've been working hard on that all day today!

whereaouts answer:
Isabelle,

I don't know why, but this post of yours didn't show yesterday so I never saw it. I am thrilled that your gathering went well and you are feeling much better and more creative!

As to you're sister; you're just picking something up with your sister, it's what she is sending out and you "feel" it. Rise above it and diffuse the negativity by ignoring it.

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posted September 03, 2012 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for isabelle_lila     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I am ready to re-read it and to try to make sens of it with your help

Thank you so much for the work you have done for me.

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posted September 03, 2012 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for isabelle_lila     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today, I have a clearer visio of things. The kinght of cup is definitively me (I'm libras ascendant pisces) the air in the water and your description was true.

The knight of swords is alas F my ex (pisces with virgo ascendant). it's totally him.

So I feel like this reading is about two people, my ex-f and me. We are polar opposite. What is the contral issue for you ?

How is it possible to have the significator as my ex and not me ?

ps: how are you ? I don't see you on the game reading thread much often. is everything ok ?

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Hi Isabelle! I haven't been around the past couple of days (Labor day weekend in the U.S.) but SURE, I'd be happy to help you decipher!

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posted September 04, 2012 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whereabouts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll get back to this but to answer your question about the significator; it is VERY possible that the significator is him (I have to look back at this and don't have time immediately but I'll look at it later). I always let the cards chose the significator and sometimes it's someone else who is associated with the one who has the query. I never create a road block to spirit communication by erecting barriers that spirit must hurdle, and restricting the significator in your mind to only being that of you is a hurdle spirit may not be able to overcome, and in reality, it is you, the reader, who may not be able to overcome your own restrictions which you have placed upon spirit through limitations. Not being open to all possibilities and adhering to a strict routine is polar opposite to spirit who speaks in multifaceted ways. Spirit is omnipresent therefore a significator can be whomever spirit wants to be. If you are rigid in the structure of a reading, you'll prevent spirit's ability to speak freely and openly to you therefore prevent the real message you are to know from coming through. Let spirit speak their own way, then you simply sit back and make your best effort to be objective in all things so you may understand what it is they are telling you.

I'll be back to look at this more in-depth when I can.

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Originally posted by whereabouts:
Hi Isabelle! I haven't been around the past couple of days (Labor day weekend in the U.S.) but SURE, I'd be happy to help you decipher!


If it was for a happy reason, all is good

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Originally posted by whereabouts:
I'll get back to this but to answer your question about the significator; it is VERY possible that the significator is him (I have to look back at this and don't have time immediately but I'll look at it later). I always let the cards chose the significator and sometimes it's someone else who is associated with the one who has the query. I never create a road block to spirit communication by erecting barriers that spirit must hurdle, and restricting the significator in your mind to only being that of you is a hurdle spirit may not be able to overcome, and in reality, it is you, the reader, who may not be able to overcome your own restrictions which you have placed upon spirit through limitations. Not being open to all possibilities and adhering to a strict routine is polar opposite to spirit who speaks in multifaceted ways. Spirit is omnipresent therefore a significator can be whomever spirit wants to be. If you are rigid in the structure of a reading, you'll prevent spirit's ability to speak freely and openly to you therefore prevent the real message you are to know from coming through. Let spirit speak their own way, then you simply sit back and make your best effort to be objective in all things so you may understand what it is they are telling you.

I'll be back to look at this more in-depth when I can.


I could totally work with something not in a strict order as long as I understand it.
For me to connect the dotes, I need to be sure that the knight of sword could be my ex even is this card was the significator.

I'm all for the more intuitive side of a reading since I'm quite the intuitive type. i don't have the kind of relationship you have with spirit, but I have a good intuition that i need to improve to do something of it

I wll try to make in order all the impressions or questions that pop when i read your reading.

Thank you for your help

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I have been a bit drown those last days but you will have a big list of questions soon. Be prepare

I hope everything is ok on your side. I have seen your post on "people come & goes"...

lots of good thought to you.

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I'll be ready.

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Hello whereabouts,

First : Bon courage !

I totally agree with the up & down nature of my life right now. But I also realise that since this reading is before anything about me & my ex F who is my polar opposite, it’s normal. Where I’m light & happiness, he is darkness & unhappyness.

1) I am a perfectionism and sometimes it could prevent me from doing something because I can’t do it perfectly… a bit of procrastination on my side sometimes But when I begin something I could work for a very long time on it without stopping.

For the forceful communications, is the fact that he posts on his private blog could be considered the forceful communication ? He stopped following me on twitter. So I only see that as a forceful communication and only if he does it in my intention (which I’m not sure). He recently wrote how he was a better person in his professional and personal life since june !
QUESTION: Do you think he wrote it in my intention? And to which intentions ?


2) As I have said, I’m air in water (libra sun with pisces rising), intellectual without the coldness attach to it, artistic, skillful communicator, balanced and a big dreamer. So I am the situation .
And the knight of swords is him even if he is lacking air. He love debate, volatile communication and being provocative so he can be visible to other. Even if in the end, people don’t like him. You have nail his personality as well as his challenge aka being his true self and stop being only after the material.
QUESTION: How his challenge is linked to me ? Do I have to tell him ? Is this challenge the reason we are not together and he hurt me ?

3)The veil beneath the situation is toward me. Even if I was not seen myself as the knight of cup, I would still think it’s about me. I’m a dreamer and I live a bit to much in my dreams. Happily sometimes I make them reality. And the “strong passionate nature comfortably under control” is totally me again

4)I don’t understand “ The Star in conjunction with the 8 of Pentacles indicates that spiritual qualities influence the structure of the project/work.” Maybe it’s because I saw this reading as personal one (my love relationship with F) and not as a professional one. Also since F is very religious (catholic), maybe it influence it.
QUESTION: Is the project could have been to be together in the long run ? Is the religion an obstacle between us in general ? Or could it be that his work/ambitions is the problem ?

5)For the base of staff, I could not relate at all. Is it my view of the situation and if so I see it as a complete waste. Is it his view and so he think that he regains peace at home (which I doubt highly) or maybe since I’m the knight of cup, it’s his view of me : a bit of peace, lightness and happiness in the turbulence of his life… ?
QUESTION: In your opinion, who see who or what ?

6) With what you said about the environment of the issue and how the significator (the knight of sword) is seen by other seems like to be for him. My friends don’t like him and he is a bit opportunistic. It’s bizarre to admit that the person who love have all those default but it’s true. And yes, for the moment he trive on conflicts.
Not all is bad in him even if this reading is very much at his disadvantage but I need to see him clearly as he need to see himself clearly too, to improve and free the good he had in him. But I don’t see him slowing down the literacy association. He was very discrete during the august challenge like he promise.
QUESTION: I feel like I was the test or the chance, life send to him. Am I right to think that ? Did he thought it too ?

7) I don’t know if the 9 of cup is for him or for me. Maybe more for him. I really don’t know on this one. I think the advice would change whatever it is for him or for me, because we are so different. But even if I’m more tolerant and understanding than him, if this 9 of cup is for me, the advice is maybe too not expect too much from people just because I’m capable to push myself.

QUESTION : for who is this 9 of cup ? Is F ambitions is a problem for him or for us ?

8) In the literacy association, I’m quite like the king of swords. Maybe since it’s the outcome, I will become the king of sword to F because I will need to cut to the truth and stop being protective of him.

QUESTION : Do you think there will be a big discussion between us and my view and my way of acting toward him will change ?

9) again the sun could be him or me. He stated on his blog that he wanted to evolve but he is so dependent of the opinion of others and the traditions... I feel like the sun for me could be my capacity to heal from my aggressions and the hurt that F gave me and taking this opportunity to become stronger and more successful in my goal.
The freeing from negativity would be, being free from negative people. This is how I interpret it...

QUESTION : Could the sun mean success in a change of job for me ? Or an explanation with F ? Could the sun be for him & me ?


ANGEL CARDS, I think they are just for me, so it’s more simple


TRUST:
More than error in my personal life, I think it tell me to pardon myself to not have accepted to be accompanied to go back to my home and so I was attacked.

GUARDIAN ANGEL:
I think I know that whatever it’s here with all my friends and family or upstairs with my great aunt who will always love me and protect me. Sometimes, I just forget to ask because when I asked F, he was not there for me… still hurt.

LISTENING:
I see that as a time to explore my spirituality, my gifts which were asleep for so long. A lot of people told me to began Reiki also.

As you said, the part about the boat is in reference to this forum. It’s a relief because with the literacy association, I really hope to have less problem. Each year, there is always a drama, different each time. August was very good. I think I successed inspite my trauma to be a good leader for the association. There was a good atmosphere. Of course, I don’t know everything that is going in my back Also you have to know that this literacy association was created on internet in first and everybody has a screen name… So this boat could be for me in november. I really hope not !
I will have a co-leader for the association, someone trustworthy, new and discrete to the association. A great help

QUESTION: Could you confirm that for the big challenge of November I won’t have to deal with those two person in the boat in my association ? I have two person in particular who love creating drama, a woman A and a man N.


I’m happy that this reading helped you as well. It should always be like that If you need a reading from me, do not hesitate, you will be always welcome !


LOVE:
Even with all the mistakes he made and the egoistic gestures, I always knew that we loved each other and that for the first time in his life he really loved someone. It’s sad that he let go. I feel like he will never be truly happy in his life.

QUESTION: Is F that a bad person ? Is there still a “us” with F & me ? Or is everything finish ? Could he finally use his true potential and be the good man he could be in general and with me ? Will he amend himself to me ? Is friendship possible between us ?
And of course, if F is not my destiny person, who is it ?


Thank you so much for this long, researched readings. The more interesting they are, the more you want to understand them. Sorry for all the questions I asked.

And do not hesitate to give me some news about yourself and your son. Happiness for you two.

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posted September 13, 2012 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for isabelle_lila     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Whereaouts,

When I see all the questions and commentaries I had on your reading, I'm afraid that I scare you

Since you have done/are doning so much for me, don't you want a reading from me, a weekly one that I love to do ? http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/004301.html

Have a nice day.

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Whereabouts......

If you have time I need a reading about wtf happend with john!? Why did he marry her it was so out of the blue. What happend to us, what will my course be now in love, did he mean what he said when he talked to me about wanting to see me in hopes he realized he was making a mistake marrying her.

Im shocked and confused and hurt and angry! Especially at her for driven a wage between us

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