posted August 09, 2012 03:38 PM            

A question that could seems strange or a bit different from a more traditional demand of a reading but maybe this could triger a reading or an intuition from someone on this forum. The more, the better.

I have been fowolled by different butterflies for some days now (it never happened to me before). And tonight a special one came near me and didn't leave my side until I was capable to find which kind of butterfly it was : a Parasemia plantaginis (WOOD TIGER) probably.
http://www.ukbutterflies.co.uk/moth_species.php?species=plantaginis

Probably a femal because the inside part of her wings was reddish-orange... beautiful !

Did you see that as a sign of something ? How would you interpret it ? Did it trigger an intuition/reading/symbolism explanation for me ? Whatever it's about my love life (humm), my professionnal life, my financial life, my artistic life etc...

I'm listening to everything.

posted August 09, 2012 06:26 PM            

For the greeks, it was immortality.
For the christians, it was the memory and imagination.
For the muslims, it was love.

posted August 09, 2012 06:58 PM            

Interestingly, for the last days, I have been having a butterfly following me whenever I was outside. Butterflies used to come to me or fly around me when I was younger (sometimes even sitting on my hair or glasses. lol), but this hasn`t happened for many years.

Anyway, I think if you meditate on the symbolism and meaning, you will know what it is meant to tell you.

posted August 09, 2012 07:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
My thoughts and emotions are everywhere right now, so i didnt get anything from looking at the butterfly... But after some research and reading, i think metamorphesis is right on target. A transformation is about to occur within you, within your heart, within your soul, within your life.

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I know your concentration is somewhere else. So Thank you to have take the time give me some insight.

posted August 09, 2012 07:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
The butterfly is the representation of Psyche, also.

Interestingly, for the last days, I have been having a butterfly following me whenever I was outside. Butterflies used to come to me or fly around me when I was younger (sometimes even sitting on my hair or glasses. lol), but this hasn`t happened for many years.

Anyway, I think if you meditate on the symbolism and meaning, you will know what it is meant to tell you.

For me it always reminds me to allow some carefreeness and lightheartedness and playfulness and beauty into my life.
And of course it is tightly connected with metamorphosis.

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It's true about spyche. I should read again the mythology with eros since I don't remember it.

I feel the metamorphosis. Since it entered my house, I'm more at peace, less angry against my ex, against the slowliness of my recovery.

And I strongly feel like their is a message or a symbol to this.
Maybe because, in first the butterfly flied around me to get my attention, then go on my brushs then on my books and finally he came to site on my head.

You are right, there is a lightness about it.

Thank you for sharing your experience with me

posted August 09, 2012 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by isabelle_lila:
I know your concentration is somewhere else. So Thank you to have take the time give me some insight.

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Read this:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_symbolic_meaning_of_a_butterfly

posted August 09, 2012 08:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Read this:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_symbolic_meaning_of_a_butterfly

I especially like the native american perspective

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Thank you. I will go see that immediately

edit: I just read it and it very interesting especially the part of the native american! I didn't know that legend. And off course I have done it

posted August 09, 2012 09:05 PM            

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Originally posted by isabelle_lila:
Thank you. I will go see that immediately

edit: I just read it and it very interesting especially the part of the native american! I didn't know that legend. And off course I have done it

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posted August 11, 2012 06:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Glad you found it interesting too

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alas the butterfly had still not leave my side. I found him in the house as soon as I enter. I let the windows open but he didn"t go.

How will he give my wishes to the god/univers... if he don't go

posted August 11, 2012 09:33 PM            

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Originally posted by isabelle_lila:
alas the butterfly had still not leave my side. I found him in the house as soon as I enter. I let the windows open but he didn"t go.

How will he give my wishes to the god/univers... if he don't go

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Looks like you are going to get news/visit of some kind very soon. It will change/tranform something for you... Its impact might be huge since you mentioned that the butterfly landed on you already... Just wait a few more days and see what pops up. Be patient.

posted August 12, 2012 11:31 AM            

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Originally posted by whereabouts:
Are you missing someone who has passed on? Maybe it is them?

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I miss my grand aunt Micheline, all the time. She was perfect in my eyes and I was perfect in hers
She died 20 years ago... But if someone from my family should become angel after death, it should be her. And if someone from upstair would like to be near me, it would be her.

On a more symbolic meaning, I would say that I miss me, my life before, part of me who dispear recently.

Thank you for this explanation. I didn't think of that whereabouts

posted August 12, 2012 11:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Looks like you are going to get news/visit of some kind very soon. It will change/tranform something for you... Its impact might be huge since you mentioned that the butterfly landed on you already... Just wait a few more days and see what pops up. Be patient.

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Hello Junethird,

This thursday I will have a lots of writers in the house, A very friendly group ! So you are right
As for the news, it would be very good. I will try to be patient (I'm not good at that) At this point, I don't know anymore if I want a good news about F my ex or my book. I feel like, the balance is shifting.

So how are you today with all the things going in your life ?

posted August 12, 2012 08:05 PM            

do you tend not to wash your hair? be it for feeling like you can manage/style it better, etc? You wash, but more so, underarm, chest, rest of body etc, but not hair and upper back/neck area.

The butterfly's senses are resonating to a scent/impression from the skin from your upper back, neck and scalp/hair.

There is a spiritual dimension to this as well, something to do with sort of young woman preparations for suitors, that the butterfly signifies. It is a traditional preparation. Something along the lines of not using soaps but rinsing the hair with the head tilted back and then massaging the scalp with the preparation as women have done before you from times past from your heritage.

The preparation is 'soft water' as in rain water or in modern terms you can get demineralised water for irons and things - I think. Or you can buy other water, but not all bottled water, it varies. Anyway, go for the softest water, and essential oils are added. I think the concoction is not set, but from past traditions, is like a half teaspoon of coconut oil, frangipani essence, and lime leaf oil. You can even buy sort of like mist sprays with similar stuff. Well anyway, in the home mix, you can either pour like a cupful of water with the oils in through your tilted back head, or you can sort of sloosh and rub it over the skin/scalp and lightly through to the ends but moreso the scalp etc. Or you can separate your hair and sort of spray it in.

Your grand aunt Micheline, is still 'sleeping' she had a hard life with much upset and the psycho-spiritual-emotional scars are being 'salved'. She kissed you on your forehead/hairline before she sort of left and she holds you and a couple of others, including a close in age sister of hers, in like a pocket of an apron/dress (in spiritual imagery) along with some kind of spice berries that she loves the smell of, and some glass beads that she got when she was about six, got/found. There are other things in this 'pocket' and her spirit 'keeps them nice and cosy to her'.

You are being 'tended' by others though, but they are all at cross purposes.

posted August 12, 2012 10:47 PM            

Thank you for your answer which on both side (the butterfly and my great aunt) is extremelly interesting. I would love to hear more from you ! The symbolism about the woman preparing herself for suitor made me think and I would love to know how you learn all of this.

Your answer is also fascinating and touching (in a very good way) about what you said about my great aunt. If you are others things to say about her, do not hesitate. I'm listening and I will tell you what I think about it and if it touch something.

For the butterfly and the hair:
You have taped into something. I wash my hair everyday so it's not that but I put lotion on it afterwards. And what is interesting, it's since some weeks ago now, I have put a karite butter (it's an ecological production) on my hair each evening. I totally change my hair routine since my agression some weeks ago.

And it's true for my hupper back, I wash it less since it's more difficult to reach

Moreover, since the same time, I use essential oil on my pillows at night to find sleep. You really tapped into something about the attraction of the butterfly.

What do you mean by my great aunt is still sleeping ?

She had a had life (leaving russia, world war II, losing her husband very early, having no children when she would have been such a great mother, a second companon who drink a bit too much but he was always extremelly nice to me and didn't drink when I was with them, she was ill in the last years of her life etc...) but she always keep smiling and being positive and nice to people. Everybody loves her
But I think I never realise how much she suffered because she was always so happy when I was there and me too. And I was young.

She had so many sisters ! There were 11 children in her family. I know it's not my grand-mother because my grand-mother was so jealous of her...

She was an excellent cook so she had very often an apron. But it's not this details that made me think. She had a necklace she wore all the time (without glass bead but you are right she had a lot of those and she loves them) in which she put some hair of mine and she asked to be buried with it and also with all my drawing and the stories I wrote (she never had a chance to learn to read which was one of her biggest regrets so she was so happy that I was writing stories at a young age). Of course, we respected her wishes.

For the spice beries, I don't know. I know she had raspberry in her garden that she loved (me too) as well as strawsberry and cherry.

For the "You are being 'tended' by others though, but they are all at cross purposes."
I suppose you mean that I'm being well taking care for (which is true, my family is there for me even since the agression). But what do you mean by "they are all at cross purposes" ?

Thank you so so so much for all the information you gave me And I will be very happy to learn more if you have someting more to say.
Anyway thank you again and I hope you have a great day

posted August 12, 2012 11:43 PM            

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Originally posted by isabelle_lila:
Hello Junethird,

This thursday I will have a lots of writers in the house, A very friendly group ! So you are right
As for the news, it would be very good. I will try to be patient (I'm not good at that) At this point, I don't know anymore if I want a good news about F my ex or my book. I feel like, the balance is shifting.

So how are you today with all the things going in your life ?

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Hey thats good news!!! Iam excited what the upcoming weekend/next week will bring for you. Fingers crossed its good news iam so happy to read Chryseis was able to give you a more indepth insight into your butterfly.

posted August 13, 2012 03:46 AM            

First of all it seems you have a mix of race in your background, despite your russian family. There seems to be a mix of African and Arab/Ottoman-Syrian, back when there was a lot more sea-going, colonising and slave trading. There were many nationalities, including people from Tunisia, Morocco, Senegal and Bantu people. Some were slaves, more were pirates/slave traders, and some of the women in the lineage were not exactly slaves but just sought of captured. There is even some kind of connection via trade to the Seychelles and there is some significance about East Anglia but I can't determine it, I think with later slave trading maybe.

The african and coastal people traditions are the main background to this pressing preparation idea. Basically, it is like a beauty treatment that is appropriate for a young woman in order to attract or welcome suitors into her presence. But yes, just sought of a circulating sought of concept around you, and of course you don't have to do it or bother with it at all.

Your great aunt just seems asleep to me, like snow white. But I am certainly no expert on the complexities of like the universe and everything, but it just seems like she is recouperating through something similar to sleep. It is like a salve is being applied to her in a way, as she has had to bear many scars to her psyche.

The sister close in age to her is maybe called Somaries,or Somarian, but I can hardly believe that this would be right as I don't have confidence in getting names.

One of the prominent people around you is like an uncle and even though he looks out for you he is sort of bothersome and nosy - I don't really like him, as he gives me a weird vibe like a 'medicine man/shaman' can give when they are of the hassler variety, ie. they make it their business to get into people's heads in a way by psyching them out. His skin is brown and he wears light coloured clothes and walks a lot.

There are others that sort of give you supporting energy, and some are like ancestors and some are everyday people that think about you and send good thought forms to help ease things for you. But many people have this.

The seychelles makes me think of something about you like you are called little shells or something.

Please don't feel like you have to be kind if this is incorrect, as I prefer to know if it doesn't ring true.

posted August 13, 2012 05:18 PM            

For the mixed heritage, it true but not on the african side more on the asiatic side. My blood type B+ is only found in the south of asia.

I hope my grand aunt will be recupering and be well care for because she deserve it.

For the name of the sister, I don't know.

For the bad uncle, you are totally right (except for the brown skin, he is white, not as white as me but still). But he is not protector at all and if he give a service to me and my father, he will expect something in return.

I have a lot of friends who were a real support group for me during this difficult time, except F, my ex It still hurt why he was not there for me. For the ancestor, I don't know them enought but I support my great grand-father who rise my own father was very happy to have his me as his first great grand child.

My graet aunt micheline call cochincat (little cat) and my family doudou because of the softness of my skin (doux in french mean soft).

Thank you very much for all of this. it's fascinating and it makes me want to go throught my genealogy and think again about my great aunt and the people who are or are not around me.
It gave me perspective, so thank you again. And you have others things to tell me do no hesitate, even by email.
And if I can return the favor in a way, I will be happy to do it.

posted August 13, 2012 05:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Hey thats good news!!! Iam excited what the upcoming weekend/next week will bring for you. Fingers crossed its good news iam so happy to read Chryseis was able to give you a more indepth insight into your butterfly.

All is good in my life. Thank you. Everything is always good. Work/family/friends all good its always the heart, love that clouds my eyes but i cannot do much to change that... I can only have hope that its all a big misunderstanding and he will comback to me again

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I'm happy that all the rest of your life is good Not everybody can say that.

I also understand the importance of what you feel and how it can impact such a big part of your life. But do not hesitate to ask us on the game reading thread about details in your life. I know what it is to feel like everything change because of a little thing that touch your heart.

keep us inform because we are all behind you

posted August 13, 2012 07:01 PM            

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Originally posted by isabelle_lila:
I'm happy that all the rest of your life is good Not everybody can say that.

I also understand the importance of what you feel and how it can impact such a big part of your life. But do not hesitate to ask us on the game reading thread about details in your life. I know what it is to feel like everything change because of a little thing that touch your heart.

keep us inform because we are all behind you

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@isabelle lila,

Thannks alot. I just responded to the other thread about a weekly reading

posted August 14, 2012 06:26 AM            

I'm not offering readings, I'm a bit of a commitment-phobe, so I only like to read as a hobby when I feel like it.