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Topic: 2 of pent vs 2 of wands
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hmm Knowflake Posts: 467 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 16, 2012 01:10 AM
both are about choices ballance... how would you describe their diffrences...also what are some other cards that you see as very similar? and what do you see as the main difference btwn them? IP: Logged |
andstuff Knowflake Posts: 339 From: United Kingdom Registered: Jun 2012
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posted August 16, 2012 06:10 AM
2 pents is unstable and precarious, requires effort to maintain2 wands is super-stable, for me at least IP: Logged |
ShyVirgo1979 Knowflake Posts: 1105 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted August 16, 2012 07:28 AM
2 of pents is abt choices and balance. Maybe some fluctuation with this card. 2 of wands means there's opportunity but it signifies a waiting period. Off to a good start but then u gotta wait to c any results.IP: Logged |
whereabouts Knowflake Posts: 578 From: USA Registered: Jul 2012
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posted August 16, 2012 10:29 AM
Agree with ShyVirgo. 2 of Wands is also "future". Something sent out to "manifest" into whatever is returned in the III of Wands.Two of Pentacles is also about maintaining a stable position during turbulent times. It's a good card to have when surrounding cards are unstable. it shows that the seeker is able to maintain balance even though the seas are rolling uncontrollably around them. The band within the two of pentacles that the man is essentially juggling to keep everything "afloat" is the infinity symbol. ------------------ Truth & Integrity in all things. The Truth is the answer to everything. IP: Logged |
hmm Knowflake Posts: 467 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 16, 2012 10:43 AM
lmao...so i guess these two cards aren't very similar at all then...:Panyone have any other cards that they view as very similar? IP: Logged |
hmm Knowflake Posts: 467 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 16, 2012 10:43 AM
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ShyVirgo1979 Knowflake Posts: 1105 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted August 16, 2012 11:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by whereabouts: Agree with ShyVirgo. 2 of Wands is also "future". Something sent out to "manifest" into whatever is returned in the III of Wands.Two of Pentacles is also about maintaining a stable position during turbulent times. It's a good card to have when surrounding cards are unstable. it shows that the seeker is able to maintain balance even though the seas are rolling uncontrollably around them. The band within the two of pentacles that the man is essentially juggling to keep everything "afloat" is the infinity symbol.
I totally agree with this. Every last word. *edited* " the seas r rolling around uncontrollably"....this was the fluctuation I was referring to. Fluctuation and needing to find the balance. Look to surrounding cards to get a better idea and overall picture, if there r any. IP: Logged |
ShyVirgo1979 Knowflake Posts: 1105 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted August 16, 2012 11:09 AM
I can't think of any other cards that r similar. The lovers is another choice card but it doesn't really hafta do with balance. It just means choice plain and simple. The 2 of pents is more complex than just a choice. See above interp IP: Logged |
whereabouts Knowflake Posts: 578 From: USA Registered: Jul 2012
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posted August 16, 2012 11:51 AM
Yes, the Lovers is using the power of "discernment" to make a choice that is beneficial to all and a healthy outcome. It is also represented by Arch Angel Gabriel. quote: Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979: I can't think of any other cards that r similar. The lovers is another choice card but it doesn't really hafta do with balance. It just means choice plain and simple. The 2 of pents is more complex than just a choice. See above interp
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PhoenixFire Knowflake Posts: 552 From: The Crossing Registered: Jun 2009
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posted August 16, 2012 10:22 PM
The Lovers & The Devil, looks similar but feels like opposites. The Lovers is choice, the Angel over the couple. The Feeling is of motivated by emotions of love/ passion. The devil is the choice to be enslaved, motivated by lust. The couple is together again, but in chains and now the Devil has replaced the Angel.IP: Logged |
whereabouts Knowflake Posts: 578 From: USA Registered: Jul 2012
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posted August 16, 2012 11:17 PM
The difference between the two is that in The Lovers, the two are bound by love. In the Devil, they are chained to each other by obsession. quote: Originally posted by PhoenixFire: The Lovers & The Devil, looks similar but feels like opposites. The Lovers is choice, the Angel over the couple. The Feeling is of motivated by emotions of love/ passion. The devil is the choice to be enslaved, motivated by lust. The couple is together again, but in chains and now the Devil has replaced the Angel.
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hmm Knowflake Posts: 467 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 16, 2012 11:56 PM
what about justice, judgment, emperor, herophant...all those seem pretty close to me?IP: Logged |
hmm Knowflake Posts: 467 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 16, 2012 11:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by whereabouts: The difference between the two is that in The Lovers, the two are bound by love. In the Devil, they are chained to each other by obsession.
well, someone's poetic :P IP: Logged |
whereabouts Knowflake Posts: 578 From: USA Registered: Jul 2012
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posted August 17, 2012 12:02 AM
Not poetic. Psychological insight. quote: Originally posted by hmm: well, someone's poetic :P
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whereabouts Knowflake Posts: 578 From: USA Registered: Jul 2012
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posted August 17, 2012 12:04 AM
Nope. Not close. Justice is Libra. judgement is awakening. The Emperor is Organization, and the big H is an overseer. quote: Originally posted by hmm: what about justice, judgment, emperor, herophant...all those seem pretty close to me?
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hmm Knowflake Posts: 467 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted August 17, 2012 12:05 AM
8 of cups and hermit?IP: Logged |
whereabouts Knowflake Posts: 578 From: USA Registered: Jul 2012
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posted August 17, 2012 12:08 AM
Time to let it go. quote: Originally posted by hmm: 8 of cups and hermit?
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andstuff Knowflake Posts: 339 From: United Kingdom Registered: Jun 2012
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posted August 17, 2012 05:30 AM
quote: Originally posted by hmm: 8 of cups and hermit?
8 cups - abandoning something, turning your back on it the hermit - solitude and spiritual growth to get ready for other things on a different level. quote: Originally posted by hmm: what about justice, judgment, emperor, herophant...all those seem pretty close to me?
Judgment is very similar to re-birth, some - perhaps painful and laborious - transformations that give one a new lease on life. Justice is pretty literal, I guess. The Emperor is stability/power structures The Hierophant as described by Waite quote: He wears the triple crown and is seated between two pillars, but they are not those of the Temple which is guarded by the High Priestess. In his left hand he holds a sceptre terminating in the triple cross, and with his right hand he gives the well-known ecclesiastical sign which is called that of esotericism, distinguishing between the manifest and concealed part of doctrine. It is noticeable in this connexion that the High Priestess makes no sign. At his feet are the crossed keys, and two priestly ministers in albs kneel before him. He has been usually called the Pope, which is a particular application of the more general office that he symbolizes. He is the ruling power of external religion, as the High Priestess is the prevailing genius of the esoteric, withdrawn power. The proper meanings of this card have suffered woeful admixture from nearly all hands. Grand Orient says truly that the Hierophant is the power of the keys, exoteric orthodox doctrine, and the outer side of the life which leads to the doctrine; but he is certainly not the prince of occult doctrine, as another commentator has suggested. He is rather the summa totius theologić, when it has passed into the utmost rigidity of expression; but he symbolizes also all things that are righteous and sacred on the manifest side. As such, he is the channel of grace belonging to the world of institution as distinct from that of Nature, and he is the leader of salvation for the human race at large. He is the order and the head of the recognized hierarchy, which is the reflection of another and greater hierarchic order; but it may so happen that the pontiff forgets the significance of this his symbolic state and acts as if he contained within his proper measures all that his sign signifies or his symbol seeks to shew forth. He is not, as it has been thought, philosophy-except on the theological side; he is not inspiration; and he is not religion, although he is a mode of its expression.
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