posted August 28, 2012 06:08 AM            

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Not surprised someone with Sun and Venus in the sign of the bull would post a picture of a cow.

But really, you thought THAT would get a Sag riled up?
We practically INVENTED the cow-crap jokes!

posted August 28, 2012 08:58 AM            

Anyway, how do you deal with that stubborn angular T-square of Venus-Pluto-Moon plus the equally stubborn a bit less in-your-face-angular Sun-Mars-oppositon?

Any kind of emotional or romantic fixations?
You`re not really a man of compromise, are you? Judging from the Sun-Mars--opposition in fixed signs at least definitely more some kind of "either-or" person.

posted August 28, 2012 09:17 AM            

even here post 3! there it is again lol!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum33/HTML/000077.html

i get along with sags very well. my pet peeve is they think they know comedy lol! (shhh don't tell them! ) but it's not a big thing. i love ben stiller!

uranus on my asc! goodness!

lol i think that t-square has gotten me stuck majorly at least once in my life. i had to be pulled out of the situation. an intervention of sorts!

i would have thought the sun opposition mars was more in your face. i try to hold it back. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

romantic fixations. yes!

posted August 28, 2012 02:05 PM            

I guessed though that in your case you were just being quick and hasty and cutting to the point that was interesting you, maybe a bit egocentric (which I can understand. My Sun is in 1st house).
But you`ve got Mercury in Aries - I didn`t expect anything different.
Funnily enough my Sun-MErcury-conjunction is on 25-26 Sagittarius in 1st house, and though not as hasty and fiery as an ARies-Mercury, I understand the urgentness behind it. If I want to know something, I WANT to know and I want to know NOW.
Is it something similiar for you? Or have I misunderstood you completely?

"i get along with sags very well."
That`s nice to hear. I haven`t had much contact with Taureans, and those I met werenīt really to my liking. But luckily no Taurus (or person with other sign) is like another.

I remembered one Taurus with Sun in Taurus, Moon in Sag on my mars and near aSC and Venus and Mars in Gemini in my 7th house opposing my Sun and Mercury - you would have thought there were nice sparks, especially with Taurus occupying my 5th house for a bit of the sign, but in that particular case, I couldnīt stand the guy. He really rubbed me the wrong way, was so full of himself and at the same time full of selfpity and all "poor me" attitude coupled with serious selfdelusions about his oh so charming ways. You would have thought he was a Leo!

" my pet peeve is they think they know comedy lol! (shhh don't tell them! )"
No need to. They already know.
"i love ben stiller!"
Yeah me, too. I laughed so hard watching "Zoolander". AS a matter of fact I need to watch it agin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ffj8SHrbk0&feature=related

"uranus on my asc! goodness!"

"lol i think that t-square has gotten me stuck majorly at least once in my life. i had to be pulled out of the situation. an intervention of sorts! "
Yes, I can imagine that.

Moon and Venus are very very important planets, especially in terms of feeling safe and validated, nurturing the need for "connection" in any way (which is not limited to romantic relationships, though they fit in there as well).
In the fixed modality there definitely are "issues" around selfworth and what you value (with "issues" I mean, that these are important things). Also Fixed signs are actually sometimes prone to "addictions", as they tend to hold very tight to whatever they value (fixed quality). Letting go is quite difficult, and sometimes they can seem to get "stuck". With Moon in Fire and Venus in Earth - we have a steamroller combination. It is very powerful actually, very intense. Add to that the superintense Pluto, forcing you into kathartic moments again and again to transform you.
Plus all of that is angular (on ASC and MC especially), which means it is "centre stage".

"i would have thought the sun opposition mars was more in your face. i try to hold it back. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't."

Well, it is in Yin-signs, which tend to be a bit more introverted, and Mars is below the horizon, where there is night, which means, planets below the horizon are immensely important in terms of personal life and personal development, but they are not always easily seen, especially not if they are in secretive Scorpio!
And with Pluto on the ASC this gets even more pronounciated.

"rhaps not but i'd like to think i can compromise. my sun is in h7. wouldn't that help? "
A bit.
It makes you relationship-oriented, or at least shows that it is significant for you to be connected to other people, usually in romantic way. And it will not be a lofty romance (that is something for the Air signs and maybe Pisces), but Venus and Sun in Taurus in 7th house want something physical, someone to touch and hold, the senses need to be stimulated, not just the brain. (though of course brain is always important - to me at least. But hey, my 7th house is Gemini and my Moon is in Aquarius - I am probably one of the loftier types. lol).

This orientation or connecting to the "Other" of course makes it easier to compromise.
But as you can see there is a real split between this Sun and Venus and then your Scorpio-Mars in the house of SElf and even your Leo Moon in the house of public Self.
Do you sometimes feel torn between trying to please others or connect to them and on the other hand the urge to just be yourself and put yourself first?

posted August 28, 2012 02:32 PM            

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(i actually don't know if dreaming111 was serious or teasing me again but we shall see!)

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posted August 28, 2012 03:10 PM            

About you:

- You have a strong personality and people can tell.
- When people speaks to you, you don't say much at first because you are sizing them up. The other person sees you sizing them up and would get flustered or feel awkward.
- You may not show emotions in your facial expressions and so the person speaking to you wouldn't be able to pin or categorize what you're feeling.
- You may seem like a disciplinarian.
- When you are in a happy mood however you seem like a different person.
- Earning material wealth or having security of any sort is not something you bank on. You are quite capable of riding the waves without it.
- Having said that, right now that's all you are looking for. At a later age and possibly when you have achieved material success you will no longer be satisfied. In the end spirituality and understanding of life is where you will end up.
- You have many siblings or friends, who act like siblings to you. Either you look up to them or they to you.
- You are a shrewd character and give out good advice, if someone you care for approaches you. You tend to take people under your wing, when they are in a bad spot.
- You however are practical and don't give away much more than you can afford materialistically, emotionally, etc
- You have a charm about you.
- You go after people that will up your social standing. So if that person looks good or would make you look good, you try to find your way into his/her graces.
- You would pick a partner that was appealing/ attractive. Appearance is a very important aspect in selecting a partner.
- You may have a sexual dysfunction or hangups. (I don't know whether I should have posted this...I can delete it if you like.)
- Sexuality of course is extremely important to you from many angles within the chart. In a relationship or not, it takes up a lot of space in your thoughts.
- You enjoy bdsm, slave, suffering, force, betrayal, rough scenarios sexually.
- You want it to be transforming and something far from the ordinary.
- You are most in flow when you feel competent at something.
- It gives you immense pleasure when someone compliments you on your career, education, talent, achievement.
- You are a bit of a show off about your achievements.
- You have a strong reserve of energy/ power.
- There is no stronger feeling than hate. If you end up hating someone, that person better watch out. You'll curse them under your breath every time. You can be quite ruthless.
- Your words, if you want them to be, can however be very poetic and flowery.
- At work be careful of getting into a tiff on account of what you end up saying. You would rub someone the wrong way, if you are too blunt.
- You never get what you want from a partner in the emotional sense. You won't feel completely appreciated or loved. This doesn't mean you aren't, it just means you can't sense it.
- If someone met you for the first time they would think that you are cold, aloof.
- Sometimes you struggle with extreme lack of motivation. You need to move beyond that threshold to do something as again you still have that reserved energy to use.
- You need an all consuming love, with deep emotions, not the light jolly "I love yous". You can handle strong emotionas quite well.
- If you are happy you are very happy but if you are cranky you are quite cranky.
- If you lie, it is nearly undetectable.
You are a bit of a master there. However you don't lie unless you really are pushed to.
- You choose your friends with care. You don't require too many friends though. You are content with quality rather than quantity. Fortunately, that is usually what you get.
- In romance you are very vulnerable, and this is something you can't stand. You try your best to protect or insulate yourself but you can't help letting go of yourself in a relationship.
- If someone wins your trust, you'll be loyal for life. However, winning your trust is not at all easy.
- Something you might have experienced or seen is burned into your memory regarding relationships, so it's hard to get over it. That is a strong factor to why you have a wall up and why you test your partner.
- You have a hard shell, but you are a marshmallow hehe.

posted August 28, 2012 11:10 PM            

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Is it something similiar for you? Or have I misunderstood you completely?

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i am impatient (for a taurus) but not really on here. it's more being mobile and having a touchscreen phone and big bull hooves!

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That`s nice to hear. I haven`t had much contact with Taureans, and those I met werenīt really to my liking. But luckily no Taurus (or person with other sign) is like another.

I remembered one Taurus with Sun in Taurus, Moon in Sag on my mars and near aSC and Venus and Mars in Gemini in my 7th house opposing my Sun and Mercury - you would have thought there were nice sparks, especially with Taurus occupying my 5th house for a bit of the sign, but in that particular case, I couldnīt stand the guy. He really rubbed me the wrong way, was so full of himself and at the same time full of selfpity and all "poor me" attitude coupled with serious selfdelusions about his oh so charming ways. You would have thought he was a Leo!

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it must be the sag moon! just kidding! my dad has all 5 personals in sadge! i believe he thinks i am an evil a-hole too lol! but i am a lot nicer than in my youth and he is more chill these days as well. not that he had a temper or anything. he doesn't at all.

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No need to. They already know.

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SEE! I once went to a comedy bar with my sag dad and his sag wife and pretty much everyone i knew of that sign was there! goodlord sagfest!

posted August 28, 2012 11:25 PM            

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Moon and Venus are very very important planets, especially in terms of feeling safe and validated, nurturing the need for "connection" in any way (which is not limited to romantic relationships, though they fit in there as well).
In the fixed modality there definitely are "issues" around selfworth and what you value (with "issues" I mean, that these are important things). Also Fixed signs are actually sometimes prone to "addictions", as they tend to hold very tight to whatever they value (fixed quality). Letting go is quite difficult, and sometimes they can seem to get "stuck". With Moon in Fire and Venus in Earth - we have a steamroller combination. It is very powerful actually, very intense. Add to that the superintense Pluto, forcing you into kathartic moments again and again to transform you.
Plus all of that is angular (on ASC and MC especially), which means it is "centre stage".

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it wasn't an addiction or anything just pure stubbornness/ refusal to bow to the ways of the world. i get it now. i was wrong.

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Well, it is in Yin-signs, which tend to be a bit more introverted, and Mars is below the horizon, where there is night, which means, planets below the horizon are immensely important in terms of personal life and personal development, but they are not always easily seen, especially not if they are in secretive Scorpio!
And with Pluto on the ASC this gets even more pronounciated.

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would you say it comes out more in relationships?

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A bit.
It makes you relationship-oriented, or at least shows that it is significant for you to be connected to other people, usually in romantic way. And it will not be a lofty romance (that is something for the Air signs and maybe Pisces), but Venus and Sun in Taurus in 7th house want something physical, someone to touch and hold, the senses need to be stimulated, not just the brain. (though of course brain is always important - to me at least. But hey, my 7th house is Gemini and my Moon is in Aquarius - I am probably one of the loftier types. lol).

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definitely! i can even remember sensual experiences in such vividness.

hey my merc is on dsc! i want someone smart too ehehehe!

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Do you sometimes feel torn between trying to please others or connect to them and on the other hand the urge to just be yourself and put yourself first?

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sometimes yes. but it doesn't eat me up that much. i put myself first but then i can do stuff other people want if i care enough for them.

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So you act out the SCorpio-Mars and let the woman act out Venus in Taurus.

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hmm.. idk. my venus is stronger i think..

posted August 29, 2012 12:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
I don't know much but here's my interpretation:
(Let me know what is correct or what is flat out wrong.)

About you:

- You have a strong personality and people can tell.

[b]i'd like to think so. not sure if people can tell though.

- When people speaks to you, you don't say much at first because you are sizing them up. The other person sees you sizing them up and would get flustered or feel awkward.

nope. it's the other way around. people (men) size me up. silly men. :p

- You may not show emotions in your facial expressions and so the person speaking to you wouldn't be able to pin or categorize what you're feeling.

i feel i am actually expressive but some have said something very close to that too!

- You may seem like a disciplinarian. :p

no lol! at least not yet! i think i can run a tight ship.

- When you are in a happy mood however you seem like a different person.

sure. but i am a jolly person. i am the same way in real life like i am here. but i have a serious side that quietly keeps tabs on everything to not let things slip etc..

- Earning material wealth or having security of any sort is not something you bank on. You are quite capable of riding the waves without it.

there was a time i wasn't materialistic. i am slowly trying to get back to that essence.

- Having said that, right now that's all you are looking for. At a later age and possibly when you have achieved material success you will no longer be satisfied. In the end spirituality and understanding of life is where you will end up.

well that is nice! i do hope so.

- You have many siblings or friends, who act like siblings to you. Either you look up to them or they to you.

sure i have 2. many friends yes. i think some look up to me but not majorly. :laughing:

- You are a shrewd character and give out good advice, if someone you care for approaches you. You tend to take people under your wing, when they are in a bad spot.

[b]shrewd yes. take under my wing yes. i am not sure about the advice unless it is something earthy. there are things i won't understand when it comes to relationship advice for example because it has not been my experience or so and so. like i can't tell them to be somebody else you know.

- You however are practical and don't give away much more than you can afford materialistically, emotionally, etc

sure yes true..

- You have a charm about you.

do i? :p

- You go after people that will up your social standing. So if that person looks good or would make you look good, you try to find your way into his/her graces.

only with women so far.. men and friends no but perhaps it could apply some day.

- You would pick a partner that was appealing/ attractive. Appearance is a very important aspect in selecting a partner.

yesh!

- You may have a sexual dysfunction or hangups. (I don't know whether I should have posted this...I can delete it if you like.)

nah it's k! don't tell anyone but i get nervous the first time! i would say that is a bit of a hangup.. no dysfunctions so far.

- Sexuality of course is extremely important to you from many angles within the chart. In a relationship or not, it takes up a lot of space in your thoughts.

yes lol!

- You enjoy bdsm, slave, suffering, force, betrayal, rough scenarios sexually.

not really. i like sensual lovemaking lol! but i could get into that. it's just that if i go there with someone who knows where it will lead.

- You want it to be transforming and something far from the ordinary.

le sigh ..yes

- You are most in flow when you feel competent at something.

of course..

- It gives you immense pleasure when someone compliments you on your career, education, talent, achievement.

yes. but complimenting my hair is also fine. :laughing:

- You are a bit of a show off about your achievements. :p

[b]well i have none yet IMHO! :p but I suppose when unchecked my ego could go wild.

- You have a strong reserve of energy/ power.

i think so

- There is no stronger feeling than hate. If you end up hating someone, that person better watch out. You'll curse them under your breath every time. You can be quite ruthless. :p

i think so but i have never really hated anyone. if i did i would find away for the to cease existing. :Peeping:

- Your words, if you want them to be, can however be very poetic and flowery.

witty or clever perhaps but no not the stuff for oprah's book club.

- At work be careful of getting into a tiff on account of what you end up saying. You would rub someone the wrong way, if you are too blunt.

noted.

- You never get what you want from a partner in the emotional sense. You won't feel completely appreciated or loved. This doesn't mean you aren't, it just means you can't sense it.

i think i can and have felt it. but then u added in the emotional sense. i am not very in touch with that..

- If someone met you for the first time they would think that you are cold, aloof.

depends if you are cute. :p

- Sometimes you struggle with extreme lack of motivation. You need to move beyond that threshold to do something as again you still have that reserved energy to use.

yeah struggling with it today. haven't worked out in a week or two..

- You need an all consuming love, with deep emotions, not the light jolly "I love yous". You can handle strong emotionas quite well.

oh yes i want what carrie bradshaw wants apparently! :laughing:

- If you are happy you are very happy but if you are cranky you are quite cranky. :p

yes!

- If you lie, it is nearly undetectable. :p
You are a bit of a master there. However you don't lie unless you really are pushed to.

i believe people aren't stupid to not be able to detect a lie..

- You choose your friends with care. You don't require too many friends though. You are content with quality rather than quantity. Fortunately, that is usually what you get.

yep!

- In romance you are very vulnerable, and this is something you can't stand. You try your best to protect or insulate yourself but you can't help letting go of yourself in a relationship.

i don't try to protect. i go all in. yes i am vulnerable.

- If someone wins your trust, you'll be loyal for life. However, winning your trust is not at all easy.

yes and if you betray me i will kill you or close to it. :laughing:

- Something you might have experienced or seen is burned into your memory regarding relationships, so it's hard to get over it. That is a strong factor to why you have a wall up and why you test your partner.

parents divorce? idk.. my first romantic interactions with a woman i was already testy so it would have to be before that..

- You have a hard shell, but you are a marshmallow hehe. :p

truer words have never been spoken! ;)

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posted August 29, 2012 12:43 AM            

Well like I said, I'm not an expert.

posted August 29, 2012 07:18 AM            

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oh and thank you ceridwen and dreaming111!!!

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