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G-CALS
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posted September 12, 2012 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for G-CALS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*skeptic* im curious about this though...

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vesta
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posted September 12, 2012 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The tarot can be very accurate, when my love came to me I was getting readings like

the star, the sun and the Ace of cups based on the eight of pentacles (him).
so far it has been very accurate for me and others. I get readings from a medium and sometimes others here on LL and they all are saying the same type of things to me and even giving me the same time frame.

blessings, vesta

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beccathelion
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posted September 12, 2012 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a little bias, because I read them, but I've found that if you use them as a platform for advice and NOT a stone-cold predictive medium -- they work wonderfully. You can analyze a situation clear-headed (and the cards are almost spot-on in explaining what the real problem is) and the advice they give is either perfect and what the person wants to do already or perfect and... well, not what the person wants to do at all (but will be better for it if they do.)

I think a lot depends on the reader too. It's a combination of being flexible with card interpretations as well as just the energy you get from the card. One card can have 10 or 15 different meanings. I think the reader just has to be open and let the cards speak... and paint a picture with the overall energy, if that makes sense. It's like creating a story.

They've worked for me my whole life. I'm happy to read for you if you want. I can't make any promises that it will knock your socks off, but I'm happy to do one, and we can discuss.

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G-CALS
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posted September 12, 2012 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for G-CALS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huh... well thx you guys! Im super interested cuz... its interesting? I just have a hard time understanding how drawing random cards can be accurate i guess.

@ Beccathelion. Thank you for your offer! Umm i think i will take it, just to see if its really accurate. If it is.... i am thinking about getting into this more. Do i just ask anything? Like how do i ask lol. Just any ol question? sorry im suchhhhh the noob!

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beccathelion
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posted September 12, 2012 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by G-CALS:
Huh... well thx you guys! Im super interested cuz... its interesting? I just have a hard time understanding how drawing random cards can be accurate i guess.

@ Beccathelion. Thank you for your offer! Umm i think i will take it, just to see if its really accurate. If it is.... i am thinking about getting into this more. Do i just ask anything? Like how do i ask lol. Just any ol question? sorry im suchhhhh the noob!


I say, regardless, start getting into it! At the very least, it sort of opens you up to more things in general. I dunno I feel like I trust my instincts more and pay attention the world around me more. Maybe I'm a fruit loop, but that's the truth.

And yep! Just ask anything you want. Try not to give too many details and avoid yes/no questions. Tarot is more for analysis. Something phrased like, "What's up with X" or "How can I X" or "Why is my X so X?"

Rofl. Those were horrible examples, but I think you get the picture.

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G-CALS
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posted September 12, 2012 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for G-CALS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by beccathelion:
I say, regardless, start getting into it! At the very least, it sort of opens you up to more things in general. I dunno I feel like I trust my instincts more and pay attention the world around me more. Maybe I'm a fruit loop, but that's the truth.

And yep! Just ask anything you want. Try not to give too many details and avoid yes/no questions. Tarot is more for analysis. Something phrased like, "What's up with X" or "How can I X" or "Why is my X so X?"

Rofl. Those were horrible examples, but I think you get the picture.


Hmmm maybe i will get into it!! Gives you a diffrent perspective on life eh? Ooooo but i love fruit loops!

Ahhhh so if your questions are more openended there is more room for you to work with, i get it! Ha and you said 'rofl' that sounds like scooby-doo saying 'waffle' !!! Ok now im the fruit loop.....

Umm so lemme think about how to ask this.... umm: How does JM feel about me?

Is that ok?^^^ if not then your example of 'Whats up with X (JM)? Is a good replacement. Lol and thanks so much! Your sweet! Is it hard to do Tarot readings?

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Chryseis
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posted September 12, 2012 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I agree with beccathelion's approach - to view a reading as potentials - though you will get definites as well, if you can discern them, and this comes with practice at sort of developing your understanding of the tarot language/symbolism.

I guess really our questions are quite complex because if we analysed our question our mind is actually including a list of several premises that are unspoken in the question, and the answers therefore can reflect some of those unspoken angles, and the complexity of the other people/factors involved as well, and their own multifaceted motivations etc.

So if you asked 'how does JM feel about me', included in this your mind may actually be including in the criteria - your own assumptions, your own blocks to things, or you may be wondering how someone feels about you based on what you currently see 'the you' of you is, or you might be asking generally, and the answer might not reveal that the person likes you generally but can't stand such and such about you, and this may be hard to determine as such a broad question has to come down to a simple answer and as you know yourself when answering something it is rarely black and white.

So you might say how does someone feel about me, but the actual cloud of concept might be, how does someone feel about this stupid, ugly, lump of a person that I think I am and they must surely see that I am this too, but I hope they don't feel like that because I think I have some good things going for me and I know they can't be perfect and I wonder if they like choc chip icecream like me, because they better not like it too much as I want them to be sexy and have an attractive body, and I know that I have goals to get fitter and eventually I'll buy that crap low fat soy carob sorbet so that I will just be the hottest person around and excellent people will like me better, and I might actually do better and get someone better than them, and I won't care if they like me, ....and um, I just want them to think I am just fkceeng hot n orsum.....do they????.

Some tarot readings could be akin to that image of a person looking at themself through different mirrors and that there are other people also in that room of mirrors, so depending on how the mirrors are placed will depend on the angle of the relections you see - so it has a lot to do with our psychoemotional landscape interacting with cosmic phenomena and the web of interactions consciously, subconsciously and unconsciously, and, ultimately being able to discern the likelihoods.

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beccathelion
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posted September 12, 2012 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by G-CALS:
Hmmm maybe i will get into it!! Gives you a diffrent perspective on life eh? Ooooo but i love fruit loops!

Ahhhh so if your questions are more openended there is more room for you to work with, i get it! Ha and you said 'rofl' that sounds like scooby-doo saying 'waffle' !!! Ok now im the fruit loop.....

Umm so lemme think about how to ask this.... umm: How does JM feel about me?

Is that ok?^^^ if not then your example of 'Whats up with X (JM)? Is a good replacement. Lol and thanks so much! Your sweet! Is it hard to do Tarot readings?


Well, the how does JM feel about me is a little tricky, because that pre-supposes we can get into JM's head (which we can't... sadly.) The What's Up is a little bit better train, because it's looking at the energy around JM and the forces at play in reaction to their life, instead of their mindset. Does that make sense? And it isn't too hard. It just takes practice and work. I've been doing it for almost four years now, but I still learn new things every day. It's like any skill, just takes time and diligence. I love it. They've never let me down, and so far, the people I've read for haven't either. They're like old friends, my cards. Fruit loopy, loud, obnoxious cards when ask stupid things that I already know and extremely sweet, encouraging (and tough love) ones when I need. I'm going to do your spread right now! It'll be a Celtic Cross -- take a look at it

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sisterwolf
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posted September 12, 2012 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sisterwolf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
science is coming to find that The mind is a very powerful thing. there are ideas that regarding the collective unconcious/ subconcious where all information of the universe lies. this can also be akasha, the source, ether, lots of different names depending on your beliefs. but based on Jung, is the Collective unconcious. using the cards based on archetypes embedded in the human psyche, and intently concentrating on your question, you are tapping into the source of information. this is how the cards can be eerily accurate.

the tarot cards work on a few levels, as far as i understand. i hope that helps...

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beccathelion
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posted September 12, 2012 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, I just went with, "What's up with JM," but it is important to point out that this is a spread for someone I don't know or haven't interacted with, so some things might not be as tight and tidy as they could be. I'm just going with what came up though, so ideally something will ring true (can you tell I'm all panicky, because I am trying to sway you in favor of tarot, rofl... or waffles...)

In the first position (the issue) we have the Emperor, which is crossed with the 7 of Wands (the complicating or conflicting factor). In the third position (the heart of the issue/reason for it), the 5 of Cups reversed. These three positions paint a picture of what we're discussing. It seems to me JM (who I am going to call "he" for shorthand's sake) is someone who likes to be in control of his life. The Emperor is, well, the emperor of his dominion. He doesn't like to appear weak; he maintains a certain set of traditions and expectations... a real rule follower. My guess is he feels a real need to provide and protect; he is very much a father figure, though I don't get the feeling he is much older or in that familial position. He feels really dedicated to the people around him, and I think, based on the 7 of Wands (struggle, you vs the world, conflict), he is having trouble, and I think it's in his personal life. Did he recently break up with someone or lose someone/something he valued deeply? 5 of Cups is the card of "spilled milk" so to speak. Upright it means, we feel sad about what we've lost, but when we come out of the darkness, there are two cups behind us to help us rebuild. Reversed... he's stuck on something. He's feeling slighted that he lost it, and not moving on.

In the 4th position (the past) is the Page of Pentacles. Important to note, in layman's terms, pentacles deal with finances/work (both professionally and personally [as in spiritual wealth, internal work, etc.], cups are emotions, swords are our mind/rationale, and wands are our passion/creativity. The Page suggests he was starting to realize a dream that he felt would make him "wealthy" -- I go back to relationship/recent break-up, because in the 5th (how JM feels about the issue) is the Ace of Cups -- the start of an emotional state (this comes up a lot in relationship spreads.) I don't think this went well... it wasn't anyone's fault, and in the 6th, the present, I got the Star, which to me suggests he's trying hard to find balance and really get himself straight and feel better -- I think this is the 7 of Wands again. He's wrestling with his own personal healing and his perception/disappointment that he should "be okay by now."

In the 7th, how he feels/wants to feel about himself, the Sun. He wants to be light-hearted and happy again. This ennui is not for him. The 8th is the environment around him -- 7 of Pentacles reversed. Upright, the 7 asks us to be patient and watch what we've built grow. We have to tend our garden to yield results. Reversed... he's not waiting. He's not being patient. I just can't move past the fact that he wants to feel better about something and not letting himself go through the motions (which are so damn important for a growth and healing.) In the 9th position -- the advice -- the Hierophant reversed. He really needs to let himself go. The Hierophant is all about institutions and traditions; if the Emperor is about control, then he needs to be the opposite and go against the grain. He needs to be weak. He needs to let his emotions control him. The outcome is the 10 of Wands reversed.... to me, if he keeps going like he's going... it's just burn out for no reason. He's fighting against something that 1) he doesn't need to fight against and 2) he can't win against. It's a self-imposed struggle.

My guess is, he can't be there for you... because he has no idea who he is right now or what he's doing. I'm not sure what to tell you. Be a good friend, I think. Encourage him to actually surrender to his stress and emotions. Even if the big details are off, the one feeling I keep getting LOUD is pushing against and denial denial denial.

Does any of that make sense? I'm drinking wine and watching Ghost Hunters, so God only knows.

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Gem-Gurl
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posted September 13, 2012 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gem-Gurl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also am rather new at Tarot... so this stuff was interesting to read!! Hope you get a deck and try

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G-CALS
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posted September 13, 2012 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for G-CALS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chryseis:
Hi, I agree with beccathelion's approach - to view a reading as potentials - though you will get definites as well, if you can discern them, and this comes with practice at sort of developing your understanding of the tarot language/symbolism.

I guess really our questions are quite complex because if we analysed our question our mind is actually including a list of several premises that are unspoken in the question, and the answers therefore can reflect some of those unspoken angles, and the complexity of the other people/factors involved as well, and their own multifaceted motivations etc.

So if you asked 'how does JM feel about me', included in this your mind may actually be including in the criteria - your own assumptions, your own blocks to things, or you may be wondering how someone feels about you based on what you currently see 'the you' of you is, or you might be asking generally, and the answer might not reveal that the person likes you generally but can't stand such and such about you, and this may be hard to determine as such a broad question has to come down to a simple answer and as you know yourself when answering something it is rarely black and white.

So you might say how does someone feel about me, but the actual cloud of concept might be, how does someone feel about this stupid, ugly, lump of a person that I think I am and they must surely see that I am this too, but I hope they don't feel like that because I think I have some good things going for me and I know they can't be perfect and I wonder if they like choc chip icecream like me, because they better not like it too much as I want them to be sexy and have an attractive body, and I know that I have goals to get fitter and eventually I'll buy that crap low fat soy carob sorbet so that I will just be the hottest person around and excellent people will like me better, and I might actually do better and get someone better than them, and I won't care if they like me, ....and um, I just want them to think I am just fkceeng hot n orsum.....do they????.

Some tarot readings could be akin to that image of a person looking at themself through different mirrors and that there are other people also in that room of mirrors, so depending on how the mirrors are placed will depend on the angle of the relections you see - so it has a lot to do with our psychoemotional landscape interacting with cosmic phenomena and the web of interactions consciously, subconsciously and unconsciously, and, ultimately being able to discern the likelihoods.


Thank you!!! Haha you questions behind the questions made alot of sense!! The reenactment was priceless

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G-CALS
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posted September 13, 2012 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for G-CALS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by beccathelion:
So, I just went with, "What's up with JM," but it is important to point out that this is a spread for someone I don't know or haven't interacted with, so some things might not be as tight and tidy as they could be. I'm just going with what came up though, so ideally something will ring true (can you tell I'm all panicky, because I am trying to sway you in favor of tarot, rofl... or waffles...)

In the first position (the issue) we have the Emperor, which is crossed with the 7 of Wands (the complicating or conflicting factor). In the third position (the heart of the issue/reason for it), the 5 of Cups reversed. These three positions paint a picture of what we're discussing. It seems to me JM (who I am going to call "he" for shorthand's sake) is someone who likes to be in control of his life. The Emperor is, well, the emperor of his dominion. He doesn't like to appear weak; he maintains a certain set of traditions and expectations... a real rule follower. My guess is he feels a real need to provide and protect; he is very much a father figure, though I don't get the feeling he is much older or in that familial position. He feels really dedicated to the people around him, and I think, based on the 7 of Wands (struggle, you vs the world, conflict), he is having trouble, and I think it's in his personal life. Did he recently break up with someone or lose someone/something he valued deeply? 5 of Cups is the card of "spilled milk" so to speak. Upright it means, we feel sad about what we've lost, but when we come out of the darkness, there are two cups behind us to help us rebuild. Reversed... he's stuck on something. He's feeling slighted that he lost it, and not moving on.

In the 4th position (the past) is the Page of Pentacles. Important to note, in layman's terms, pentacles deal with finances/work (both professionally and personally [as in spiritual wealth, internal work, etc.], cups are emotions, swords are our mind/rationale, and wands are our passion/creativity. The Page suggests he was starting to realize a dream that he felt would make him "wealthy" -- I go back to relationship/recent break-up, because in the 5th (how JM feels about the issue) is the Ace of Cups -- the start of an emotional state (this comes up a lot in relationship spreads.) I don't think this went well... it wasn't anyone's fault, and in the 6th, the present, I got the Star, which to me suggests he's trying hard to find balance and really get himself straight and feel better -- I think this is the 7 of Wands again. He's wrestling with his own personal healing and his perception/disappointment that he should "be okay by now."

In the 7th, how he feels/wants to feel about himself, the Sun. He wants to be light-hearted and happy again. This ennui is not for him. The 8th is the environment around him -- 7 of Pentacles reversed. Upright, the 7 asks us to be patient and watch what we've built grow. We have to tend our garden to yield results. Reversed... he's not waiting. He's not being patient. I just can't move past the fact that he wants to feel better about something and not letting himself go through the motions (which are so damn important for a growth and healing.) In the 9th position -- the advice -- the Hierophant reversed. He really needs to let himself go. The Hierophant is all about institutions and traditions; if the Emperor is about control, then he needs to be the opposite and go against the grain. He needs to be weak. He needs to let his emotions control him. The outcome is the 10 of Wands reversed.... to me, if he keeps going like he's going... it's just burn out for no reason. He's fighting against something that 1) he doesn't need to fight against and 2) he can't win against. It's a self-imposed struggle.

My guess is, he can't be there for you... because he has no idea who he is right now or what he's doing. I'm not sure what to tell you. Be a good friend, I think. Encourage him to actually surrender to his stress and emotions. Even if the big details are off, the one feeling I keep getting LOUD is pushing against and denial denial denial.

Does any of that make sense? I'm drinking wine and watching Ghost Hunters, so God only knows.


Wow thats a lot!! It seems not far off. I did hear a rumor about him and a girl.... its all kinda deep, i will prob re-read it a few times. Thank you sooooooooooo much! I googled that type of layout you used and it looks hard 0.0

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G-CALS
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posted September 13, 2012 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for G-CALS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gem-Gurl:
I also am rather new at Tarot... so this stuff was interesting to read!! Hope you get a deck and try

Maybe i will. I am not sure yet glad you found my thread interesting

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beccathelion
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posted September 13, 2012 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beccathelion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by G-CALS:
Wow thats a lot!! It seems not far off. I did hear a rumor about him and a girl.... its all kinda deep, i will prob re-read it a few times. Thank you sooooooooooo much! I googled that type of layout you used and it looks hard 0.0

it isn't! but we can do a simple three card question for something pertaining to you personally if you want!!! and yeah, i realized that was a lot. sorry, i get carried away. it's so much fun

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