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Topic: HORARY please :)
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Junethird
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posted September 17, 2012 11:23 PM
  
Hi everyone. Today an ex got me thinking if we have a future together. What do you Guys think?  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted September 18, 2012 06:33 AM
I donīt think so.Maybe a new love interest will surface for you?
The reason I am saying this:
You are signified by Mercury in Libra and co-ruled by Moon in Libra; not all that much interested in Jupiter. Jupiter on the other hand is in Mercury`s sign, he is ruled by you, and migth still be interested in you a lot.
He is also in your 12th house, which is interesting. There is something about him that you donīt know/see, or it means that this thought suddenly seemed to have come out of nowwhere for you. also before Mercury will trine Jupiter, it will sextile Venus. Your significators are totally ruled by Venus, and Venus rules your 5th house.
That is why I was thinking there might be something or someone new on the horizon, either a possible partner, a flirt, even taking care of a child or investing time in a hobby of yours. IP: Logged |
AshSkye
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posted September 18, 2012 07:22 AM
I agree with Ceridwen, it's a no but you have much luck and good fortune to come in terms of love and creativity, I'm leaning towards your emotional side (so love) as Moon (you) is conjuncting Spica (applying), I definitely think that romance is coming your way. He is however very interested in you but from this horary, I think you have much more on the horizon. Give it a month or so and you will begin to see this.IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted September 18, 2012 07:26 AM
^^ I didn't want to say anything when I first saw your horary because I didn't want you to think I'm always negative with you. But yes, I also agree it's a no. Better things are in store  IP: Logged |
Junethird
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posted September 18, 2012 06:04 PM
Thanks for the replies!!!I was wondering if Jupiter in the 12H mean another woman? Maybe he is dating someone? Secrets and sorrow? IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted September 18, 2012 11:52 PM
No, it doesn't look like another woman to me.
It probably just means he enjoys being on his own (seclusion, privacy..etc). If Jupiter was aspecting or conjunct another planet, then I would think so, but it isn't
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Junethird
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posted September 19, 2012 09:52 AM
Thanx for your reply empress. I appreciate it If it's not necessarily another woman, then what is it he is hiding or Iam not seeing about him? What do I need to know about him being in my 12H. What are his sgnificators? Sun, mars and Venus? What about pesky Saturn? Ceri, mentioned taking care of a child... Could this mean a pregnancy for me? Thank you everyone. If anyone needs a tarot reading in return let me know.
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Ceridwen
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posted September 19, 2012 01:10 PM
Junethird,I was only mentioning "children", because it is part of the 5th house symbolism and is ONE way it could manifest. It could be anything else fiting into the symbolism of the 5th house. his significator in your 12th house does not ALWAYS mean he is actively hiding something from you (though I have seen it interpreted several times this way), but could simply be that you can`t "see" him.
LIke if this thought of a future with him suddenly was sneaking up on you, from out of nowwhere (or the subconscious) so to speak. I agree with EmpressMendez, usually if the quesited is with someone else, you`ll find his significator being next to another planet (which is not signifying the querent) or in strong dignities of another planet (But Jupiter in Gemini is pretty much interested in Mercury, as it is in Mercury`s sign and triplicity) and not much else.
Or at least There would be a close applying positive aspect to another planet at least, indicating an inference of another person. Well, actually Venus is applying to sextile to Jupiter, before Mercury can sextile Venus. Hmm, that is interesting.
But it probably doesn`t serve as a transference of light, UNLESS Venus is in faster motion than Mercury at the time of the horary. Can you check that?
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Junethird
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posted September 19, 2012 01:15 PM
@ceri,Thank you! Yes he is hidding from me... Iam not sure why now... He was all chatty and now he has gone cold. No reply to my text or call for two days. Weirdo lol Yes, i was going to say that jupiter is applying to venus but since venus is ruled by me i thought it meant me... Maybe i misunderstood.. How do i check the speed of venus and mercury in the horary? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted September 19, 2012 01:42 PM
June,yes, you`re actually right. Though Venus is not your main significators, it DOES represent the woman in a man-woman horary, so it could be you. But if it is you, it indicates you in a more sexual sense, while your other significators for your personality/mind and your heart are not really interested in him. I actualy donīt really know what to make of this.
About him having gone into hiding, I have no clue, why this is.
But maybet he most important question is: Are YOU intersted in getting back with him? And if so, why? And why did he become an Ex in the first place=
(Usually exes, are Exes for a reason  )
EDIT:
There is a column on astro.com which gives the speed of motion for every planet. For Sun it is usually around one degree.
Well, currently Mercury is the faster planet - so no transference of light happening there.
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EmpressMendez
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posted September 19, 2012 02:18 PM
Yes, I didn't mention Venus because it was already applied to you. It shows that he's talking to you since she's in the third house . Plus it's only a sextile..I just feel like he's a very private person and enjoys time alone with his thoughts? Also the rest of his sigs and yours being in the 5th house might mean that he's not ready for serious commitment right now. He (Jupiter, ruler of 7th) is shying away (12th house) from serious commitment (co-sigs in 5th) IP: Logged |
Junethird
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posted September 19, 2012 02:18 PM
@ceri,Iam sorry for being the slow one here... So he is interested in venus... But if it might not represent me then how serious is this other "woman" also But what does no transference of light mean then... Romantically speaking to whatever planets it is applying? Iam actually interested in him... But the hot cold behaviour leaves me confused. So its hard to decide if he doesnt know or someone else is interfering... Make sense? We broke up because our schedules of work and play were so opposite so when one had free tome the other was busy and vice versa. Nothing else IP: Logged |
Junethird
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posted September 19, 2012 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
Yes, I didn't mention Venus because it was already applied to you. It shows that he's talking to you since she's in the third house . Plus it's only a sextile..I just feel like he's a very private person and enjoys time alone with his thoughts? Also the rest of his sigs and yours being in the 5th house might mean that he's not ready for serious commitment right now. He (Jupiter, ruler of 7th) is shying away (12th house) from serious commitment (co-sigs in 5th)
Hey empressM, Looks like we posted at the same time lol So the fact that its a sextile means that its not as strong right? Plus we are not talking he has avoided me for two days. Completely ignored my text and call... Thanx for sharing your insights. You are getting really good at this horary stuff
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Junethird
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posted September 19, 2012 04:16 PM
@everyone,This whole chart and topic kinda had me thinking and wondering when i would meet the "one" would casting that chart be valid as its so close after this one? IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted September 19, 2012 05:16 PM
Lol, yes Junethird I noticed that. At the same exact time  Well, yes sextiles are weak. Well, it does show that he was talking to you (lightly) or that he mentioned (the future possibility) to you.. or if it's another female she's not really important. I don't feel he has anyone though. You should cast a chart whenever you truly think of that question no matter what . Plus timing is different depending on the question. If you "wait" for the planets to change before casting an horary, then the chart might just be very inaccurate for you and give you false negative or positives. Yes, I'm finally getting the hang of it! lol IP: Logged |
Junethird
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posted September 19, 2012 05:41 PM
Ah, ok thanks empress i took note of the date and time when i Thought of the question just in case let me know if you want a tarot reading in exchange.Here is the new chart:  IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted September 19, 2012 06:05 PM
I think you are Venus and the Sun and the man is the Moon. Applying square between Venus and the Moon by 4. It seems around 4 months from now you will. It's a square there might be some difficulties .Thanks for the offer for the reading. I will accept it just not now. I will wait for some things to start happening, then I will open a thread with your name on the title. Not sure when though so be on the lookout! lol IP: Logged |
Junethird
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posted September 19, 2012 06:11 PM
Thanks for helping me out EmpressM.Quick question tho, i thought squares were a no? IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted September 19, 2012 06:36 PM
No, it shows some struggles and obstacles. If it's applying it's a yes, if it's separating it's a no. Yours is applying.But remember I'm still learning. I don't know much about when it will exact or the light thing Cerid mentioned yet  IP: Logged |
Junethird
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posted September 19, 2012 11:37 PM
Oh ok cool, can u see what kind of obstacles/struggles. What themes dominate?Iam trying to see what you see, do if you can break it down for me so I could understand better that would be great Thank you. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted September 19, 2012 11:53 PM
In horary sextiles are actually not considered weak, they are just less strong than trines, and represent opportunities rather than guarantees.
But usually it is more important if the planets are receiving each other.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted September 19, 2012 11:57 PM
Transference of light means happens, if two significators are not in direct aspects, but a quicker moving planet, has just separated from an aspect with the one significator and is applying next to an aspect of the other significators.
It is only transference of light though, if that third planet is subsequently aspecting the two significators (it must not have any aspect to another planet before or since aspecting the significators - only traditional planets count) and the third planet must be the fastest moving of the three.
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Ceridwen
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posted September 20, 2012 12:01 AM
For the new horary,Empress, why do you think the man is Moon?
In questions about a significant other, the 7th house is given to the quesited, so the man would actually be Saturn.
June would be Sun and Venus and Moon (as Moon is always co-significator of the querent).
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EmpressMendez
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posted September 20, 2012 12:06 AM
Because the 7th house is ruled by Uranus.
I didn't know what to do there, lol.
So as far as timing goes in her new chart, when would it be then?? Saturn isn't applying to her sigs I think?IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted September 20, 2012 01:33 AM
In horary the traditional planets are used as rulers (the newer ones are sometimes incorporated as influences), so Aquarius is ruled by Saturn, Scorpio by Mars, Pisces by Jupiter.But even with that in mind, I donīt understand how from that you got the idea he was Moon?
As far as to the question I donīt think marriage is likely in the next months.
Horary has only a validity for about a few months, or until there is a "paradigm shift".
So it certainly doesnīt rule out marriage forever, but it might just not happen in the next 3-6 months. IP: Logged |
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