posted September 29, 2012 04:00 AM            

I asked if I'm his future wife. I believe it's way too early to ask this question, but I went ahead and asked anyway . He's Jupiter in Gemini (detriment) in 1st house conjunct the asc applying by 7 degrees (I'm not sure, but I read this was important).

I'm Mercury in Libra in the 5th house conjunct Saturn exalted in Libra and applying by 9 degrees.

Jupiter and Mercury are making a trine, but separating by 4. Four weeks ago he said (he was really serious) that no matter how many people cross our paths that eventually we'll get married. He told me he doesn't care what I say and that we will. Of course, I took this as a joke and light hearted..nothing serious to me. Now that I see this horary..makes me think that he might have been serious.

To me the answer is no, since the main significators are separating. Jupiter squares the Moon (my cosig) and it's also separating. I have withdrawn from him somewhat because I feel our age difference is an issue.

Anyone knows if there is translation, or collection of light? I don't know. I tried reading about it, but it just ended up confusing me. Since Jupiter (him) is applying to asc, does it make it a yes?

Thanks ahead for your help.

posted September 29, 2012 05:05 AM            

If Moon had been on 18 or 19 Aquarius for example, then we would have had a translation of light as Moon is faster than both Jupiter and MErcury and would have directly went from aspecting Jupiter to aspecting Mercury I think.

However, I do think there is a lot of attraction and affinity on his part especially with his main significator ruled by you, translating to He loves you and you are important to him.

posted September 29, 2012 11:11 AM            

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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
Oh, by the way why do you think I'm conjunct/applying to Saturn??

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Hello

posted September 29, 2012 12:09 PM            

Translation of light means that you have two significators, and a third planet, which needs to be faster in motion than both of the significators, is separating from aspecting one significator and goes to aspect the other one. BUT also check that there will be no other planet aspecting in between.

Example:
Significator Jupiter on 16 Gemini
Significator Mercury on 20 Libra.

The only planet able to make a translation of light would be Moon, as it is the only planet that is faster than Mercury.

If Moon would be on 17 Aquarius, it means that she would be separating from a trine to Jupiter, and applying to a trine with Mercury. That would be translation of light.

However, if there was another planet on, let`s say 18 Aquarius, there would be no translation of light, because Moon would conjunct this other planet BEFORE making an aspect to Mercury, this other planet would kind of spoil the connection, or at least the third party would meddle in.

posted September 29, 2012 10:56 PM            

I think yes, in a way, in fact you will 'play' at being his future wife. And with Mercury in 5th, this strengthens this idea.

The chart is answerable, and jupiter is in the first, the great 'benefic' so a positive, however, it is in detriment in Gemini.

Jupiter is also in the quesited's '7th' so another positive for you being what the guy thinks as his 'rightful' wife, the wife he deserves.

Significator's are in the trine aspect, however, Mercury is separating.

Co-significator, Moon's first aspect is an applying trine to Mars, dignified in Scorpio in 6th, and Moon is closely applying to 3rd/9th cusps.

Significator of the quesited, Jupiter makes no applying aspects.

Mercury and Saturn are in the via combusta.

Sun as the other luminary, is in Lib in 5th and is in an exact T-square to Uranus and Pluto with firt applying aspect to Uranus in Aries in 11th. Pluto is on the 8th cusp.

Most importantly, the fixed star Aldebaran is exact on the AC and fixed star Antares is on the DC.

The Moon indicates your emotional disposition to the question and because it is in Pisces in 11th and at the top of your chart this dreamy wishfulness is motivating you (Mars, Almuten, most dignified in chart and first applying aspect from Moon.

Jupiter in 1st but in detriment, in combo with Aldebaran (Mars like qualities), indicate success but you may well take actions that go against your integrity, and may pay dearly for this weakness - its vital to be straightforward and uncomplicated.

The T-square with the Sun indicates a level of intensity bordering on a violent persuasion, possibly relating to male sexual dominance. And I have indicated before to you that I get a bad vibe from this older guy.

Mercury and Saturn are in the via combusta zone so I think they become extinguished to some extent. Possibly indicating that communication and commitment will go out of the equation.

Mars in 6th is applying to a square to Neptune retrograde in Pisces in the 9th and I think this could indicate, drunken threat and may even be physical (6th - body, physical -mars, due to Scorpio influence and that other T-square thing with sun-pluto-uranus).

posted September 29, 2012 11:32 PM            

I do feel a violent vibe about him. Sort of like very jealous and he may become controlling. And like you mentioned maybe even physical, but idk...I feel it though.

posted September 30, 2012 01:20 AM            

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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
I looked at an ephemeris and I think I read it right. Mercury conjunct Saturn does perfect (or whatever it's called lol) on October 5th

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OOOOooooooooo
Sorry a bit off topic... This just shocked me...
I did a hoary which I havent posted.. Just did it on my own...
Where the rulers are saturn/mercury.. The date Oct 5th has meaning to my question.

posted September 30, 2012 08:15 PM            

I'm not living with him. We only speak to each other and that's what we mainly do. I have decided to stop communicating for a while because it is actually affecting my health in a way. Thanks again

posted September 30, 2012 10:47 PM            

The Moon in via combusta makes it uninterpretable and void yes, but other well known astrologers,Julia and Derek Parker for example, take into account the via combusta for other planets as well. I think just because the moon is so important in reading horary it falls into those strictures.

Not all astrologers stick with just the major aspects for horary, it just simplifies things.

and I never said you were living with him, but more so that certain factors would perhaps not live up to your ideal of a living together situation with him.

posted September 30, 2012 10:52 PM            

My significator applying to Saturn might be someone else (according to horary rules that is). I just don't know who that might be, so I assumed it might just be my own "saturn like" tendencies.

I'm not sure why you think you offended me. Did I say something that gave that impression?

I welcome everyone's opinions and I hope they welcome mine as well