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doommlord
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From: israel
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posted October 01, 2012 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ive just read a few threads on it here and on FB and wanted to see what people see in my chart

please tell me everything you see

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Chryseis
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posted October 01, 2012 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello doommlord,I had a look back at your natal chart to check out my original reading of it.

I said that natally, though Jupiter should have been strong in its dignity and conjunct the MC I didn't feel this was the case. And I felt that saturn retrograde in pisces was dimishing it. Also Jupiter doesn't make any aspects to any the other inner planets, so perhaps finds it hard to gain expression.

Its more ifluential in the 9th harmonic, but still kind of grudgingly so. In the merc-pluto-jup/neptune grand trine, I get the impression of the possibility of your own publishing house or similar. The energy with it is very free flowing and doesn't feel like hard work at all.

You are a little held back in general by some childhood resentments, found in the interplay between mars-moon-sun. Pluto won't have a bar of it though and wants to move on from these niggly things. They include something about not being allowed to have cornflakes, i think it is, and i don't know if you would even like them particularly, but it is as if it really stuck in a deep resentment pocket that you couldn't have them. Also not being called 'pretty', you're a guy though, right? yeah but being resentful about not being able to be called pretty. And another one is about being your job to feed the cats, like you thought why is it my job? So there's lots of little things that are like resentment pockets and they have to do with other people's say so or expectations that you found did not have a reasonable foundation, so why should you go along with it.

Jupiter is still not strong, but is stronger here. It's like he takes a back seat and just wants to see how things pan out. I think Mercury has taken on the role of ally here. Mercury seems to be able to find the proof to strengthen jupiter's faith and participation.

Yes moon here is the culprit in any immaturity, moon here doesn't like roles and responsibilities and is slow to get motivated with anything other than watching a dot on the wall.

Mars is kindly, doesn't like to rock the boat but does have issues with things and would like to hint them to venus but can't get her attention. Mars depends on the moon and the sun to get some kind of hearing - a phenomena similar to the translation of light in horary, has a potential in this chart. The moon can transmute the qualities of all the other planets on degrees between it and the sun.

I thought I saw somewhere that the signs don't matter in 9th harmonics but I think they do. Mars here is reliant on its connection to the Moon in Aries, in order to contact Venus. So as the moon applies to the sun, it collects the messages from the other planets. Mars would like Venus to have things easier, and more plush. I think what this amounts to is that mars is totally starved of affection, and he feels that if venus had it easier he would be able to snuggle up closer to her and impress her.

Pluto is the level head in the chart. The strong opposition to Venus is born out of something akin to disgust - that any success, progress and realizations, are being sort of under the hammer of this discriminating venus. (Pluto is ruling mercury, mercury ruling venus, venus ruling the sun, and sun rules AC and MC)

Saturn acts as warden here of the whole camp and continually checks the logistics, responsibilities and whether everyone is abiding by established regulations. He casts a doubtful eye over Venus, and just doesn't think she's much use and turns a blind eye to the moon's immaturity. But saturn is duped here. Neptune has convinced Jupiter of a weakness on the part of the sun, and neptune is competing with the sun through Mars and the Moon. But neither Mars nor the Moon have a problem with the Sun, so Neptune is relying on the transmutation or the translation from Moon to Sun, and being the last planet before Jupiter in the alchemic shift, Neptune thinks he has a chance to assauge a few longings of his and influence some of Saturn's boring discourse. Neptune didnt have to figure in Uranus though because Uranus here is ruled by the Sun. So yes, Jupiter is the focus of Neptune's conniving. Neptune is hungry for severe, no extreme, ultra light beauty. Neptune is not satisfied with Venus here, he wants blitzing beauty and he thinks he can get it by influencing the Sun. Neptune is so disappointed by this lack of ethereal beauty at its disposal, that he is very focused on trying to swing some.

What this amounts to on a soul level is that you are like ravenous for this ethereal beauty and there is a degree of motivation to be an alchemist in order to experience it. So its sort of like the analogy of the 'hungry ghost' that is insatiable for illusory desires, but its like Neptune is prepared to keep aiming for the ideal and can bide his time for eons. Though neptune can do this, there are casualties, and other facets of the chart suffer. Mars is suffering here, and some of the other planets are feeling the abrasions of being worn down a bit.

The way to peace here is for Jupiter to step up to the plate and ease some of Mars' suffering,and Saturn needs to take the Sun in hand. But which plate will Jupiter in cancer step up to, and how will Saturn in Sag take to hand the Sun in Taurus.

An alchemical shift for you is indicated in several factors and this is where the ally Mercury ruling Venus in Virgo is important. The alchemy is through diet, water intake, yoga, massage, essences, meditative music, teas, and some kind of smoke. I think it is some kind of Ayurvedic alchemy.

Saturn will take the Sun in hand by incorporation. That is, principles need to be taken on board and I think some kind of testing is involved, and the results reflected on. I don't understand what the testing/tests are. But it can affect your life exponentially. You could have some type of sensitivity to like dyes I think. Its ingesting them as well as getting them on your finger tips.

Yay, now I know what the original reference was to the Jerusalem artichoke when I looked at your natal - it contains iodine. I think you might be sensitive to iodine, and I think it may include fluoride sensitivity. But of course before everyone who reads this wants to kill me for suggesting a health thing - I would like to add that you would of course not take this on as gospel, but I guess if you were so inclined you might keep it in the back of your mind and maybe one day get it tested if your felt so inclined.

I'm sure there would be other stuff with this chart but this is what my focus honed in on.

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doommlord
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From: israel
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posted October 01, 2012 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you always make such interesting readings

i can actually connect to much being said here....but i need some time to really grasp the bigger picture of all this

about the health i have no idea but maybe il get tested some day ^^

thank you so much for doing this

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Chryseis
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posted October 01, 2012 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey that's ok, its like doing crosswords or scrabble, a bit of a hobby

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