posted October 15, 2012 09:37 PM            

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
I hv a feeling it is someone i shut out of my life. Keep getting 3 of swords..

Help? Anyone¿?

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posted October 15, 2012 09:41 PM            

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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
I pulled the chariot!

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posted October 15, 2012 09:49 PM            

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
Yeah!!!!! What does it mean?
i'm so curious. Was hopping its someone i hv crush on.

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posted October 16, 2012 12:33 AM            

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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
3 of Swords is a Libra..might not be single.

Chariot is a Cancer, or someone with Cancer influence in their birth chart.

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Hi!!

Will you help me pull a few cards n tell me mre abt the visitor? He has been visiting me frequently.

posted October 16, 2012 09:30 AM            

Though I have experienced something similiar once. All of a sudden I would be feeling the energy of someone around me, and it drove me insane. It was like I knew who he was on some level, but the realization was always JUST out of reach (and he wouldn`t say, and if he had, I wouldn´t have believed him anyway, knowing myself. I actually got the name Thomas or Patrick. It was strange, so maybe he *tried* to tell me, but I just wouldn`t listen. lol
I simply called him my Mystery Guy).

In this instance, a few weeks after feeling this energy, I was going to an open air concert, and suddenly felt a STRONG rush of this same energy, or almost the same energy, it might have been not totally identical, but much stronger. Well, when I looked up I saw this singer in front of me, who was looking at me like *I* was the ghost! lol Just a short moment, but that energy, it was so close to the one I had felt weeks before that concert.
Well, since I am always doubting and secondguessing my own perception, I would not swear it was really HIS presence, but if not, very very close.

I met or saw him for the first time in my life on that concert, and still to that day he feels so familiar energetically; I am still trying to figure out where or when Ihave seen him before in my life. I KNOW consciously that I haven`t. But it`s just, you know, he`s so familiar like a family member I haven`t seen for quite some time.

Just wanted to share that funny story. No, as I said I wouldn´t swear it was him somehow visiting me astrally before that meeting, but I wouldn´t be surprised if it was him either. But if it was, it definitely was an unconscious thing.

Maybe your astral visitor, if incarnate, is unconsciously drawn to you and his conscious Self doesn`t even know?

posted October 16, 2012 10:24 AM            

I really wana know that person. It's so curious. It only started since 3 months back.. at least 4 times since. First few times, nothing much happened. Just a press of energy, like someone hugging you so tight. Then i think the 4th time, i was spooked. I mentally spoke something n rejected him.. all i felt was someone bending over buried his head in his hands.. i dun know.. crying. Well. of course, 2 nights ago.. i got curious. Venus in Gemini working...

Anyway, i need to find out who he is... I'm already thinking of a series of questions now to ask the next time it happens.. If he is the guy i am crushing on, great!! I'm so in crush with this guy at work i think i might make a move on him.

posted October 16, 2012 02:25 PM            

"Did you get to know him personally after that?"
That`s not so easy to answer!
Actually I DID meet him two years later, after a show and we had an interesting chat. Quite unusual and erratic actually. lol

However, after that I pretty much disappeared; curiously though when I showed up at one of his concerts again, he still seemed to recognize me (though I doubt he remembered wherefrom. I guess my face just looked vaguely familiar to him).
No opportunity to talk except for exhanging a "hello" though (as a matter of fact I bumped into him on the stairs to the toilet in the tavern he was having a concert, and he noticed me before I could even notice him. lol)

Howevber, from then on, it is just, weird. No, I don´t know him, not personally, yet I can`t really say that I don`t know him either, can I?
As a matter of fact last year I was on a solo concert of his (it sounds like it is all I am doing, going to his concerts, but it really is not so.), and he kind of singled me out during the show and teased me a bit, trying to coax me into participating in a little game of his (he is just so extrovert and spontaneous and as it seems doing things in the spur of a moment), but he knew just as I did that I would not participate. Still he couldn´t resist torture me a bit, and he KNEW he did (I guess I had tried to hard to look away, when he was looking for VOLUNTARY participitants in that game).

Well, I`ve seen him some time after htat, and since then it has been a sequence of ignoring - visible recognition- ignoring etc.

It is weird, but actually I start to find this weirdness funny. It`s a bit silly.

So do I know him? I have no clue actually. I would like to know the answer to that question myself, at least I would know how to react accordingly then.

"Just a press of energy, like someone hugging you so tight."
Yes, I know what you mean.

Actually I am experiencing something like that again. Different energy though. And very masculine. I don´t think it`s an Incubus though, the energy doesn`t feel malevolent or scary at all. But pretty patient and positive, which is nice, with all the ignoring I am practising. lol

" I mentally spoke something n rejected him.."
Yes, I am doing that sometimes, too.

Sometimes I seem to feel too much energy, too different ones. I sometimes can feel my guides, sometimes I can also feel dark energies, not really touching or attacking me, but I am aware of them. Like two days ago I again felt that predatory dark energy outside the house, further down the street. Creepily enough shortly after that the streetlamps on the street ALL went out. It was pitchblack. Only the lamps on the street directly where I live were on. But further down the road, everything in darkness. And it felt like a very dense and dangerous darkness.
Well, I knew I would not get any sleep until morning, just having the feeling of the need to be on my guard.
Interestingly my Mum couldn´t sleep that night either. Pretty sure she felt it, too.
We are a bit seismographic in these things (if our thyroid is acting up, too, we usually know that something is to happen with the reactors near the border to France, and like clockwork this morning I read about some small accident over there - not to mention all the vicious violent attacks that have been happening all over Germany for the last two nights).

Anyway, maybe most of it is my imagination, or I am just too open for these kind of things (Neptune on ASC), but if there is this "sense of darkness" growing, I don´t really want to feel ANY spiritual presence around me, cause I lose perspective. I don`t trust in them anymore, and will accuse even my guides of being something nasty masking themselves and trying to lead me on.
So I simply shut down or off and ask everyone to just leave me alone, at least not touch my "etheric sensors".
It usually works for me, though sometimes I have to pull myself out of the "dark thoughts cycle".
WEll thoughts are energy, and I don´t want to give energy to anything that doesn`t deserve it.

What I want to say is that any astral visitor should understand that it takes time to build trust like this.
And if not I very much doubt their intentions.

"Well. of course, 2 nights ago.. i got curious. Venus in Gemini working... "
How curious?

posted October 17, 2012 09:04 AM            

The first few times my astral visitor came, he just hugged me really tight. No much happened and I was scared cos he really did hug me too tight. Then there was this time ermm... i rejected his sexual proposition. And all i could remember was him crying. After that, i got really curious who this person is and there are some knowflakes at the astral forum here who suggested that i ask him the next time he visit.

So i asked 2 nights ago, mentally thinking the thoughts but to which he just shaked his head and refuse to say. I asked if he is from my country or nearby and he slowly nodded.. all these time i cannot see his face. Lol.. I only know he has broad shoulders... not exactly thin frame.. which would make sense. I like guys a bit on the plump side.

I really believe this is someone i know..... He hugged me way too tight and it is as if he has lost me and he is afraid of losing me. The visit two nights ago started with a hug so tight that his hands were in fists. It wasn't a dream... it indeed was an energy of a person in astral plane pressing on me and i can feel every single press of energy and i was semi-conscious. Oh.. erm.. well, my curiousity got the better of me, we engaged in astral sex. Hell, i din even know such term before but that was what was communicated to me via thoughts from him i think. Anyway, it was soooo real and yes, i believe he is one who knows how to astral project.. cos i wasn't thinking of anyone in particular besides my crush and I dun think it is him even though i hope it is him.. I didn't imagine this visitor. He is so real cos in the middle of the night before he started lying beside me huggging me, he knocked my rack and it kinda collapse.

This visitor sure likes me a lot. I don't know, I'm thinking... if i want to continue having such an astral lover. lol. This may have to stop soon if he doesn't tell me who he is by the next visit.. Okie, next 3 visits.. I'm still curious.... how this can be done... hmmm.. maybe i should start asking?

posted October 18, 2012 05:08 AM            

Anyway, I was feeling him around for quite some time (but no, I never engaged in astral sex with him. This definitely was where I drew the line for me, as I wouldn´t do it in waking life either, before knowing someone a bit better.).
At a certain point though I asked him to stop visiting me, as I didn`t want this to start distracting me from my physical life. I have spent enough time in my mind and neglecting all the physical stuff, and I am not going to go this route again.
So I jokingly said to him or send him the thought, if he really wanted to meet me, hw would need to meet me in the physical realm.
Actually I said that to get rid of him.
That was just a few weeks before we actually met and had that chat. LOL
I certainly did not expect it to work that way!

That night, after our chat, I actually thought I was dying. But not the bad kind. I was just musing in my halfconsciousness that I certainly was having a stroke. Why else would I feel, even hours after meeting him, as if I was totally wrapped up in something that felt like an electric cover (but actually not unpleasant) and feeling like every cell of my being was humming and my crownchakra was buzzing insanely, and I even heard his voice INSIDE my head. Like chattering from a bit away.
Well, today I think what happened was that I might have had a bit of a Kundalini awakening, that´S all.
But to this day, whenever we are in the same city, especially if it is a rather small one, I can`t sleep, as this buzzing energy is just swirling around inside of me and will not let me get rest.

It`s all normal, unless he gets physically too close. Something about his energy I guess. Last time when he was standing much too close (guy obviously never heard anything about socially acceptable distance zones. ), I felt like our auric energies were intermingling to the point that I couldn`t tell where his started and mine ended.
I was actually quite dazed by this.
This is not so muhc attraction like you are attracted to a crush, that is, plainly, weird to be honest. lol

However, speaking of astral visitors, I want to give a word of warning. Actually I am rpetty torn on this subject.
WEll, I have done a bit of googling and of course came across the INCUBUS phenomen (not the music band ), of course I had heard of it before.
I am not really sure demons really exist, but the spiritual sphere is vast.
Anyway, even if they do not exist, at least not like they are described (and I tend to believe that some of what you come across is, well, let´s say an interpretation of individual experiences, having more to do with your moral value system than with the experience itself), mmh, how can I put that.

WEll, just like in the physical realm not all spirits or astral visitors may come to you with "pure intenti" on". Or some may actually be just looking for an astral one night stand.
Actually I have been warned in a meditation last year, that I should not go around so unprotected (I wasn`t even aware I was "going around" anywhere), as I might even attract unwanted attention, as not every entity/ soul/ spirit is "saintly".
In a way I think my guide had a point there, so I want to stress the importance of protect yourself and your spirit in all cases. I left it to my Higher SElf what kind of protection to make and for me the visualization of the "violet egg" seems to work quite well.
Apart from that I think it is of absolute importance to listen to your inner voice, if it is warning you something is not as it should be, shut the door. Even if you may overreact and it was just because of your own doubts, a loving spirit will understand.
It`s just, you don´t want to have an astral stalker, that`s just not very cool.

But as long as you feel really good and refreshed (feeling drained and tired after astral visitations is a BIG GLARING warning sign!), everythings good.
A friend of mine has had an astral visitor (well, it is her twinsoul) for many years, and since he came into her (spiritual) life her life has really took a turn for the better, she healed so much emotionally, it is awesome.

The other thing that I found almost creepy was, when it started, I asked her to describe her experiences to me, and she described it the same way I had experienced it when I was a teenager. I never told anyone about it, and it had been so many years ago, I never had read anything about the astral realm even, and neither did she. Still she used almost the same words to describe her experience, which makes me think, that maybe it is not all just a figment of imagination or it would be collective fantasy.

"So i asked 2 nights ago, mentally thinking the thoughts but to which he just shaked his head and refuse to say."
Yeah, well, when I did it once, the answer I received was: "Oh you know. You just don´t want to admit it even to yourself."
Thank you very much! That was helpful. NOT.
Well, at least I know that he was not the one I met.

Sometimes it really feels a bit too crowded here. I am just picking up too many vibes. Some of it is imagination. Some of it not. And sometimes it is not easy to discern.
Anyway, I have recently put up a new rule, or actually it is law now. No astral visitations in my sleepingroom!
I wouldn´t invite someone in body to watch me sleep either!
If this is not respected, I know I am not respected, and I am on my guard, and actually ready to kick some astral ass. But it has not been necessary so far.

"engaged in astral sex."
I`d like to know some details here.
But I totally understand that that is much too personal and we are not in the Sweet Peas forum.
Just curious if what you experienced resembles my friend`s experiences.

"I dun think it is him even though i hope it is him."
If you don´t think it`s him, then it probably isn`t.

" he knocked my rack and it kinda collapse. "
LOL
Yeah, I´ve been having some poltergeist activities as well in the last time.
Things falling from tables or out of racks when I was not even in the room! lol
Last time suddenly the DVD of "Love Actually" decided to fall to the ground, And it was placed firmly on the table. *shaking head* Still thinking what kind of *nudge* that should be! Why this DVD? Is there something in there that is for me important, and I somehow missed? lol

"maybe i should start asking? "
Yes.

posted October 18, 2012 11:17 AM            

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I hope you are not upset or anything.. because i see you have deleted your posts. i take your post seriously.. and indeed i do suspect after reading yoour post that it could be my ex.. cos you mentioned that he is someone who knows me well... and he is married. Well, he cheated on me and got his ex pregnant so ended our love. It was really bad. I shut him out totally. I didn't even want to be reminded of him... he broke my heart so badly everytime i get tarot readings, the reader ask why am I in pain.. I'm only sharing this cos I don't want you to think I am not taking you seriously. I hope my astral visitor is not him. I'm very happy in my life now and he is never to be a part of my life ever again.

yet, you mentioned too that it could be someone at work.. so i thought it could be my crush. Well, my crush is my boss, it really would have make sense too.. cos Hera mentioned something about my solar return chart that I might change my job cos of love... well... all these adds up. Plus i love the visitor to be him... how awesome if that is true... I think I might confess my attraction to him. Lol. Will I lose my job? Honestly I can't be bothered. I'm in the best period of my life and feeling risky and untouchable

Pls don't b upset... I take your readings seriously. And I believe that he is someone I know as you said in the reading.. cos i feel he is no stranger..

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To be honest no matter what answer I would have received, I wouldn´t have believed it anyway and doubted it and thought it was just in my own imagination anyways.
I am still torn between this being a spiritual reality and just due to my very strong imagination.

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Anyway, I was feeling him around for quite some time (but no, I never engaged in astral sex with him. This definitely was where I drew the line for me, as I wouldn´t do it in waking life either, before knowing someone a bit better.).

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I got curious. Venus in Gemini working. There is a little nudging hope that it could be my crush..

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So I jokingly said to him or send him the thought, if he really wanted to meet me, hw would need to meet me in the physical realm.

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Why else would I feel, even hours after meeting him, as if I was totally wrapped up in something that felt like an electric cover (but actually not unpleasant) and feeling like every cell of my being was humming and my crownchakra was buzzing insanely, and I even heard his voice INSIDE my head.

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It`s all normal, unless he gets physically too close. Something about his energy I guess. Last time when he was standing much too close (guy obviously never heard anything about socially acceptable distance zones. ), I felt like our auric energies were intermingling to the point that I couldn`t tell where his started and mine ended.

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WEll, I have done a bit of googling and of course came across the INCUBUS phenomen (not the music band), of course I had heard of it before.

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But as long as you feel really good and refreshed (feeling drained and tired after astral visitations is a BIG GLARING warning sign!), everythings good.

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Yeah, well, when I did it once, the answer I received was: "Oh you know. You just don´t want to admit it even to yourself."
Thank you very much! That was helpful. NOT.
Well, at least I know that he was not the one I met.

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posted October 18, 2012 02:01 PM            

Anyway, in the composite I have found ANUBIS in tight (I mean really tight aspects; within 2 degree orb, 3 degree for conjunction TOPS) aspect to:

- ASC
- nodal axis
- Neptune
- Moon

and sometimes to
- Sun
- MC
- Saturn

posted October 18, 2012 02:31 PM            

" I got curious. Venus in Gemini working. "
LOL
Well, my Venus is in Capricorn, I lean a bit to the controlled side.

"WOW!!!.. Now you gave me an idea..."
It actually works!

"I thought that's soooo sweet... hmmm... weren't you ever attracted to him at all?"
Well, I might not like to admit it, but yes, I think so.
It`s strange, everything is totally okay, and I am quite detached and not crushing on him at all, but the moment he is in my physical proximity, I feel INSANELY attracted to him. It`s just weird.

Well, interestingly in our first meeting chart BML is conjunct the ASC and ERos is conjunct the DESC, opposite each other. And the ASC itself is exactly conjunct my Neptune-NN conjunction, which falls right onto his DESC-ruler Mercury. lol

His Sun-Moon-MC also conjuncts my Sun-Mercury. A tad bit much Sagittarius-energy.
and his Mars-Jupiter widely (5 degrees) trines my Venus, which is nice.

"ut isn't it rare to find someone who you can be connected to on an astral plane?"
No, I dont think it`s that rare actually. Maybe it is more rare to be CONSCIOUS of it.
I am convinced we are astrally linked to quite a few people, especially members of our soulgroup. We are in constant contact, we just don´t know about it most of the time. And we probably do not have emotional or sexual astral links to many people. hopefully.

"I started praying frantically whenever he came."
Yes, I do that, too. Asking my guides or Higher SElf to only let those through that are actually good for me. I think it works fairly well.

posted October 19, 2012 05:32 AM            

If INCUBI really exist, do they ever stay over night and cuddle?