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KayEvans
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posted November 05, 2012 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KayEvans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recently asked an horary question about a relationship in my life, but need some help reading this chart:

The question is: Will he and I be in a relationship within the next 6 months?

Right now we aren't even in the same state, but I have a feeling things may change soon. I've known him for 8 years and would love to be able to give it a try. How does it look?

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EmpressMendez
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posted November 05, 2012 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are Saturn in 8th and he is Sun in 9th, which shows what you said about you both being in different states. 9th having to do with traveling, etc. Your main significators are also separating by 8, which also accurately shows what you stated about meeting him 8 years ago - Cool .

I typed things, but I accidentally exed the window

Well, I see an applying trine between your co-signficator (Moon) and his main sig. (Sun) by 6. It looks positive, but when I checked the ephemeris it showed that the moon moved out of its sign. Don't think this aspect will perfect, but I'm still new so I'm not too sure (would love if someone butts in and clarifies this) - that 6 could mean weeks, months, or years. Your co-significator being in the 5th house and in its own sign of Cancer shows just how deeply in love you are with him. Your feelings for him are very deep.

Sun in Scorpio means he receives you in fall. I think this means that he's not ready to either be in a relationship, or share his feelings with you since Moon in Scorpio is at fall (in bad shape/weakened) so it seems as though he might not share the same feelings for you right at this moment. Perhaps he being in the 9th house is focused on his studies, career, etc and has no time for romance right now.

Both his main significator (Sun) and your main significator (Saturn) apply to the Moon. I believe that's called "collection of light", which is positive for your question.
I think Moon trine Saturn is separating, however Venus could also be applied to you and it's applying by a square of 2 to the Moon as well, showing collection of light between Venus (you) and Sun (him) to the Moon.

Here it is:

Collection of Light

Where two planets, whether applying, separating or making no aspect to each other, both apply by to a third planet that "collects their light" and thereby establishes a relationship between the two.


Both Saturn (you) and Sun (him) are applying to the Moon. So yes, it shows the feelings are there, but he's just not ready at this moment in his life to take that step.

Hang in there .

I hope this helps. I'm still learning horary. Hopefully someone more experience can chime in soon!!

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KayEvans
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posted November 05, 2012 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KayEvans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, that is some very cool info you've sent my way so far, EmpressMendez! Especially with what you pointed out by us separating by 8 :-D

I look forward to seeing your updates on the rest of the chart! Thanks

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KayEvans
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posted November 05, 2012 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KayEvans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
You are Saturn in 8th and he is Sun in 9th, which shows what you said about you both being in different states. 9th having to do with traveling, etc. Your main significators are also separating by 8, which also accurately shows what you stated about meeting him 8 years ago - Cool .

I typed things, but I accidentally exed the window

Well, I see an applying trine between your co-signficator (Moon) and his main sig. (Sun) by 6. It looks positive, but when I checked the ephemeris it showed that the moon moved out of its sign. Don't think this aspect will perfect, but I'm still new so I'm not too sure (would love if someone butts in and clarifies this) - that 6 could mean weeks, months, or years. Your co-significator being in the 5th house and in its own sign of Cancer shows just how deeply in love you are with him. Your feelings for him are very deep.

Sun in Scorpio means he receives you in fall. I think this means that he's not ready to either be in a relationship, or share his feelings with you since Moon in Scorpio is at fall (in bad shape/weakened) so it seems as though he might not share the same feelings for you right at this moment. Perhaps he being in the 9th house is focused on his studies, career, etc and has no time for romance right now.

Both his main significator (Sun) and your main significator (Saturn) apply to the Moon. I believe that's called "collection of light", which is positive for your question.
I think Moon trine Saturn is separating, however Venus could also be applied to you and it's applying by a square of 2 to the Moon as well, showing collection of light between Venus (you) and Sun (him) to the Moon.

Here it is:
[b]
Collection of Light

Where two planets, whether applying, separating or making no aspect to each other, both apply by to a third planet that "collects their light" and thereby establishes a relationship between the two.


Both Saturn (you) and Sun (him) are applying to the Moon. So yes, it shows the feelings are there, but he's just not ready at this moment in his life to take that step.

Hang in there .

I hope this helps. I'm still learning horary. Hopefully someone more experience can chime in soon!![/B]


Thanks a lot for this reading I feel like a lot of what you said fits pretty well, but I am also interested in hearing another opinion about whether or not the final aspect between the Sun and Moon will perfect.

You were definitely right about my feelings for him being very deep. They have lasted for a long time, and although we've never dated, there have always been feelings there (he originally told me of his feelings for me years ago). Timing has never been great, which is what I believe has been the main factor in us not getting together yet. He did take me on a date a few months ago though, just before I moved here.

I'll be visiting home in 6 weeks, so I will be seeing him then. I'm holding out hope that something will take real shape between us soon, so I'll hang in there until I know more Thanks again!

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KayEvans
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posted November 05, 2012 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KayEvans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
You are Saturn in 8th and he is Sun in 9th, which shows what you said about you both being in different states. 9th having to do with traveling, etc. Your main significators are also separating by 8, which also accurately shows what you stated about meeting him 8 years ago - Cool .

I typed things, but I accidentally exed the window

Well, I see an applying trine between your co-signficator (Moon) and his main sig. (Sun) by 6. It looks positive, but when I checked the ephemeris it showed that the moon moved out of its sign. Don't think this aspect will perfect, but I'm still new so I'm not too sure (would love if someone butts in and clarifies this) - that 6 could mean weeks, months, or years. Your co-significator being in the 5th house and in its own sign of Cancer shows just how deeply in love you are with him. Your feelings for him are very deep.

Sun in Scorpio means he receives you in fall. I think this means that he's not ready to either be in a relationship, or share his feelings with you since Moon in Scorpio is at fall (in bad shape/weakened) so it seems as though he might not share the same feelings for you right at this moment. Perhaps he being in the 9th house is focused on his studies, career, etc and has no time for romance right now.

Both his main significator (Sun) and your main significator (Saturn) apply to the Moon. I believe that's called "collection of light", which is positive for your question.
I think Moon trine Saturn is separating, however Venus could also be applied to you and it's applying by a square of 2 to the Moon as well, showing collection of light between Venus (you) and Sun (him) to the Moon.

Here it is:
[b]
Collection of Light

Where two planets, whether applying, separating or making no aspect to each other, both apply by to a third planet that "collects their light" and thereby establishes a relationship between the two.


Both Saturn (you) and Sun (him) are applying to the Moon. So yes, it shows the feelings are there, but he's just not ready at this moment in his life to take that step.

Hang in there .

I hope this helps. I'm still learning horary. Hopefully someone more experience can chime in soon!![/B]


Thanks a lot for this reading I feel like a lot of what you said fits pretty well, but I am also interested in hearing another opinion about whether or not the final aspect between the Sun and Moon will perfect.

You were definitely right about my feelings for him being very deep. They have lasted for a long time, and although we've never dated, there have always been feelings there (he originally told me of his feelings for me years ago). Timing has never been great, which is what I believe has been the main factor in us not getting together yet. He did take me on a date a few months ago though, just before I moved here.

I'll be visiting home in 6 weeks, so I will be seeing him then. I'm holding out hope that something will take real shape between us soon, so I'll hang in there until I know more Thanks again!

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EmpressMendez
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posted November 05, 2012 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
6 weeks, great. Makes sense. I believe the translation of light is there though and positive. Keep me updated if you can

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KayEvans
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posted November 05, 2012 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KayEvans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
6 weeks, great. Makes sense. I believe the translation of light is there though and positive. Keep me updated if you can

Thank you.. I think so too.
I will make sure to update as soon as I can.

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EmpressMendez
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posted November 16, 2012 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Instead of "collection of light" it's actually "translation of light"


"TRANSLATION OF LIGHT


Definition

When the Moon or a planet moving faster of both significators, separates from one of them and applies to the other by major aspect, it can act as a transmittor and reunite the two significators and bring perfection. The transmitting planet can translate more than one separating significator to more than one applying significator as long as they are within the moiety of orbs. Although the three outer planets are not used as main significators, they can be involved in translations of light."

Looks like it will perfect!
Good luck and keep me updated if you can

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KayEvans
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posted November 16, 2012 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KayEvans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
Instead of "collection of light" it's actually "translation of light"


[b]"TRANSLATION OF LIGHT


Definition

When the Moon or a planet moving faster of both significators, separates from one of them and applies to the other by major aspect, it can act as a transmittor and reunite the two significators and bring perfection. The transmitting planet can translate more than one separating significator to more than one applying significator as long as they are within the moiety of orbs. Although the three outer planets are not used as main significators, they can be involved in translations of light."

Looks like it will perfect!
Good luck and keep me updated if you can [/B]


Wow! Thank you! I will definitely keep you updated. I hope to have good news to tell you soon!

It's funny that you just posted an update on your interpretation because I was just about to post another chart about whether or not I should move home (city where he lives, along with all of my close family). Not dealing with a love issue or thinking of moving because I miss him, but other things happening in my life here have me questioning if I should stay. Feel free to take a look at it if you'd like!

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KayEvans
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posted December 18, 2012 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KayEvans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Empress,

I have an update on this situation (with still more to come at a later time).

Going back to read your interpretation somewhat blows my mind to see how accurate your reading was! Also, I can re-post the chart if you'd like to look at it again after hearing this, so let me know if you want me to.

This past weekend, he invited me on a trip out of town where we would meet up with some of his friends and explore the city. Things were going great, all of the right vibes were there between us etc.. the first night it was just us two out, and on the second day we went out with his friends. Now, we must have been giving off some crazy energy or tension of some sort, because after a few hours of us hanging out, his friends started pulling me aside to ask me if we were going to start dating soon, if I like him, etc.. and more than one person who we met that night actually said that he "can tell where love is, and that it was there between us".

Later on that night, things came to a head and we started having a conversation that probably should have taken years ago.. things got a little too intense for us to finish the conversation that night because we had been drinking, but after arriving back here we agreed to talk about it more later. I just thought it was so interesting when I came back to read what you said about "translation of light", and began wondering if these outer planets that reunite the two significators can act as "outer people" in the situation.. it is just odd to me how we have had this stuff building up over time, and never mentioned it to each other.. but it took people that we didn't know very well to be the ones to force it out into the open lol. Do you have any opinion on this?

Also, a mutual friend did let me in on the fact that she thinks he may not be ready for a relationship yet, but that he clearly values me very much.. so I guess I will see how things go when we are in a better state to talk about it in depth.

Thanks again for your reading, Empress! I hope that you have some more feedback about this.. I will try re-posting the chart if you'd like to see it again.

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EmpressMendez
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posted December 18, 2012 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, so glad to see things are panning out for you <3!!

You can post if if you want to . That's cool, huh? Heheh. So also I want to add after reading my original interpretation that him being in the 9th house could also mean the distance between you two. He probably thinks a long distance relationship might not work out?

And I like what you said about how the translation of light works out here. That might just be how it does work..some "forces out of your control" (ie: other people, lol) bring you two together . That's sweet, so happy for you :3.

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KayEvans
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posted December 19, 2012 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KayEvans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
Hey, so glad to see things are panning out for you <3!!

You can post if if you want to . That's cool, huh? Heheh. So also I want to add after reading my original interpretation that him being in the 9th house could also mean the distance between you two. He probably thinks a long distance relationship might not work out?

And I like what you said about how the translation of light works out here. That might just be how it does work..some "forces out of your control" (ie: other people, lol) bring you two together . That's sweet, so happy for you :3.


Thank you! Yes, I am happy to finally have it in the open, but am of course still a little nervous because we have yet to continue our talk.. part of me thinks that he needs a few days to process everything that was said (I know I have needed a few days to myself anyway). I do hope that it "prefects" though and that I can come back with quite a happy ending to our story.

I think that him feeling a long distance relationship would be too hard is completely possible, but he is also aware that I would like to move from the city I live in anyway, so hopefully that will help him feel more at ease in some way.

Anyway, here is the chart if you'd like to see it again! It's always interesting going back to these charts again to look back on. Thanks again, Empress


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