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Scorpiobri11987
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posted November 24, 2012 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpiobri11987     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sooo, Thank you to anyone that is taking the time to read this right now. I am a scorpio sun. Cancer moon. Libra mercury. Sag Venus. Libra Mars. I also have an Aries Rising. So my personal makeup is pretty around the place. I am pretty impulsive at times, I have been known to be a bit blunt, and I hate confrontation...enough about me though. I have been dating this guy. This guy was born 10/31. A halloween baby. His makeup is Scorpio sun. Pisces moon. Scorpio mercury. Scorpio venus and libra mars. We were born in the same year so our most exact aspects are moon trine moon by 1 degree, and we have a Sun conjunct Pluto double whammy within 2-3 degrees. When we met it was like "where have you been all my life" type of feeling. We went out for my birthday and one thing led to another when we got back to his place and us being the two scorpios that we are, of course we did what we scorpios think about the most in life. I am not ashamed of that, it is natural....oh well....BUT! That weekend we spent more time together and it was absolutley wonderful. Being around this man that i feel like i have known for the longest time, and being able to be myself and not have to explain why i do the things that i do being that we are both so similar. So we didnt see eachtother for a week and so the following weekend, which was last weekend, i recommended that we see eachtother, he agreed completelty. So that is exactly what we did. During this time of knowing eachother, I have asked him what he thought about me, he said that I have "potential" i have also asked him what he thinks we should do, and he told me that he would love to see where we could go relationship wise and that he wants to see if we can take it to the next level. I hear what he is saying. The only thing I question is the fact that he also told me that he wants to take things slow. Soooooo, we have already had sex, and you want to take things slow like we are just cordial strangers? and the reason i say this is because when he means slow, he means...casual texting, maybe a call here and there, seeing eachtother...if we have time, not really putting an effort on getting to know one another, which is really what I am more used to. When I like someone, i like them and i am only interested in getting what i want in the end. which means i will do whatever is necessary to get it. getting to know a person to me is texting and calling and talking to that person frequently, seeing them whenever i can...but my venus albeit in sag, is also in the 8th house...so maybe that could explain it. The last phone conversation we had, he told me that we were on the same page and that we are seeing if we can take it to the next level and that he would contact me the next day. it has been two days. I am the type to hold a person to their word, and i probably wont contact him until he contacts me, no matter how much it hurts me because i like him so much...anyone have experience with scorpio guys? does he really mean he wants to take it slow? or what? how slow is slow? i am confused. how do i let him know that i am interested, but the more he takes his time to go slow and be detached, the more i pull away because i am not feeling the interest and the more insecure i get and feel like i am embarrasssing myself. I dont like feeling unwanted, and not contacting me makes me feel unwanted which in turn makes me cool my feelings and become cold. i dont want that. i feel our connection is too great, i could be wrong though. that is why i need an outside influence to help me out....what do you think?

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Blackbird
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posted November 24, 2012 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Scorpiobri11987:
Sooo, Thank you to anyone that is taking the time to read this right now. I am a scorpio sun. Cancer moon. Libra mercury. Sag Venus. Libra Mars. I also have an Aries Rising.

So my personal makeup is pretty around the place. I am pretty impulsive at times, I have been known to be a bit blunt, and I hate confrontation...enough about me though. I have been dating this guy. This guy was born 10/31. A halloween baby. His makeup is Scorpio sun. Pisces moon. Scorpio mercury. Scorpio venus and libra mars. We were born in the same year so our most exact aspects are moon trine moon by 1 degree, and we have a Sun conjunct Pluto double whammy within 2-3 degrees.


Sun signs don't mean that much in terms of relationships. The sun sign shows what kind of energy is involved, but the other signs and house placements show how and where that energy is felt and expressed. Scorpio sun = passion, deeply experienced feelings. But someone that has the sun in Scorpio but has Venus and/or Mars in an earth sign like Virgo, or in an air sign like Gemini, are going to express that passion in a rather different way than people would expect from a stereotypical Scorpio.

Venus in Scorpio means he is probably attracted to intense stuff and intense people. He may be attracted to you because your Aries Ascendant/Rising makes you seem very 'alive' and energetic, and/or because of your Scorpio sun -- maybe he senses some depth in you, some passion. His desire to 'take things slow' may be his Mars in Libra; Libra is an air sign, so his methods of accomplishing his goals and fulfilling his desires may be intellectual and mental rather than physical or emotional. People with that placement may desire courtship, formality and tradition, building up relationships in stages. What is his ascendant/rising sign? You might be able to guess this from his personality. Where is the cusp of his 5th house? That will tell you something about how he expresses himself creatively, flirting and taking risks. His descendent (exactly 180 degrees opposite the ascendant) may indicate the kind of personality he longs for in a partner, even if he doesn't realize it. For example, I have Capricorn rising, so my descendent is in Cancer, meaning a need for nurturing, warmth, protection/protectiveness. His moon may describe the kind of relationship he wants; moon in Pisces may desire something dreamy and mystical and transcendent.

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Originally posted by Scorpiobri11987:
does he really mean he wants to take it slow? or what? how slow is slow? i am confused. how do i let him know that i am interested, but the more he takes his time to go slow and be detached, the more i pull away because i am not feeling the interest and the more insecure i get and feel like i am embarrasssing myself. I dont like feeling unwanted, and not contacting me makes me feel unwanted which in turn makes me cool my feelings and become cold. i dont want that. i feel our connection is too great, i could be wrong though. that is why i need an outside influence to help me out....what do you think?

The pull-push stuff you are experiencing may be a conflict between his Venus and Mars, and/or between his Sun and his Mars. He's got the sun-in-Scorpio passion, deep down like you do, and he's attracted to the same kind of energy in a partner, but the way he goes after the object of his attraction isn't consistent with the attraction itself. Maybe he's giving in to the attraction and the desire, and then he's regretting it afterward because it doesn't fit with the way he usually approaches things. Or maybe his Mars in Libra has caused him to draw a line, separating relationships that fulfill immediate desires/urges and relationships that fulfill more long-term needs; he acknowledges both, but he doesn't want the former to mess up the latter.

I don't know anyone with Scorpio in Mercury; that might make him withdrawn or reserved in his communications... the Scorpio tendency to keep the cards close to your chest. It could mean that he is very persuasive. It could also mean that if you confront him about something, he might explode, shouting and swearing, or he might respond with some psychological attacks.

You could try talking to him about astrology. Send him a link to the Cafe Astrology site and ask him to get his birth/natal chart and report, and to share it with you. Ask him to read the interpretation and ask him to tell you how accurately it describes him. Ask him to tell you what parts are spot-on and what parts aren't "him". Read the interpretation for his chart and decide if he's the kind of person you want a relationship with. Warning: this will take the fun out of "discovering" someone else the good old-fashioned way, and the fun of discovering any possible future you might have together.


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KayEvans
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posted November 24, 2012 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KayEvans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Blackbird:
I don't know anyone with Scorpio in Mercury; that might make him withdrawn or reserved in his communications... the Scorpio tendency to keep the cards close to your chest. It could mean that he is very persuasive.

Hi, I just wanted to chime in to comment on what you said about mercury in Scorpio.. I have this placement, and definitely think your description fits. I have gotten much better at communicating over the years, though it took some work. I have also been told that I am quite persuasive, but as far as anger goes, I will only have an angry outburst if someone has been pushing my buttons enough to warrant it.

If the guy in question is anything like me in terms of communication, the best thing to do is to be direct with him, make your desires clear..but don't push too hard. Best of luck to you!

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starmoon
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posted November 25, 2012 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Scorpiobri11987:
how do i let him know that i am interested, but the more he takes his time to go slow and be detached, the more i pull away because i am not feeling the interest and the more insecure i get and feel like i am embarrasssing myself. I dont like feeling unwanted, and not contacting me makes me feel unwanted which in turn makes me cool my feelings and become cold. i dont want that. i feel our connection is too great, i could be wrong though. that is why i need an outside influence to help me out....what do you think?

i am dealing with this problem as well - i have been with my bf for 1 year and when he goes off for 3 or 4 days with no contact i grow cold inside. it cools my interest in him tremendously and my pride won't allow me to contact him and make myself look weak. and i find it hard to re-engage with him when he returns. how can you build intimacy and a relationship with someone when they take off and make you a non-priority? i've asked around for advice too and it seems to me that if your relationship is secure and an actual 'relationship' a few days away from someone will not diminish your feelings towards them - it won't matter because you feel secure. so, imo, that is what is causing the problem... something (perhaps) in your own natal chart is making you feel insecure and giving you that feeling of being unwanted. you didn't say how long this relationship has been going, but if it's new, perhaps that is the reason... you are just not feeling secure enough yet to let days go by without contact from him. i don't think this requires too much astrology ... men are just very different from us and they don't need that intimacy and contact and talking all the time the way we do. if he said he wants to grow the relationship, then take him at his word and give him a chance to prove it, without being upset that he is on his own time schedule. pisces (which is his moon) are rather ... well, they can swim off and do their own thing quite a lot, so with that placement i wouldn't worry too much. and keep in mind a pisces man (moon especially) would really like you to express how deeply you feel for them (romantically, of course). so, if you truly feel a lot for this guy you might consider just letting him know

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Scorpiobri11987
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posted November 25, 2012 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpiobri11987     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! I understand what all of you are saying! I truly and honestly have only been dating this guy for a couple of weeks, but already he has basically lost my interest. I can go a couple of days with no contact, but when we do reconnect, if there is an awkwardness, or a weirdness to the communication, then i will leave it alone. In all honesty that is exactly what happened the past few days. Over the thanksgiving holiday we did not talk to eachother (mainly because I wanted to see if he would contact me first, which he didnt) and when we did, he is now giving me one and two word text messages, and not really showing me any indication that he is enthusiastic about talking to me. B-O-R-I-N-G. In his chart, he lacks fire signs which is a big no for me. I have a good amount of fire so I appreciate when a person has a fair amount of passion in their makeup. I dont like boring people, and in all honesty with me having Venus in Saggitarius if a person cant stimulate my brain after a period of time, my attention span becomes non exsistent. Sucks for him. I understand he has a pisces moon, but in all honesty, I can only say "I like you" so many times before I feel like an annoying broken record. I dont feel like my efforts are appreciated or being taken seriously so in all honesty, he is going to have to find someone else to bore to death. Kinda harsh, but that is how I feel. I wish it wouldve been different because I feel very at ease with him and before we got to this communication block, we could really connect on a mental level, but now im bored. I will give it a few more days to a couple more weeks to see if it improves but i have a feeling the chances are slim. oh well.....

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