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hannaramaa
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posted January 05, 2013 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can we go over it? Please? She's driving me batty. I love her to death but one of our biggest obstacles is being on the same page. We oppose each other a lot and tend to get in each other's way both literally and figuratively. Her timing (or maybe mine depending on how you look at it) sucks, and she often hurts my feelings with her sarcasm and the way she communicates in general. I was curious because she has Mercury in Pisces, so you'd think she would be more receptive and understanding. Any insight is appreciated in this!

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posted January 05, 2013 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Debby4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chart please?

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posted January 05, 2013 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, chart is handy. I wonder what her Mars is doing, that could be an issue in what you mention

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posted January 05, 2013 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Debby4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon square her moon or vice verse? Mars and pluto battling it out? Hmmmm...

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posted January 05, 2013 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for suireen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm.. Ego conflicts maybe? Same thing happens with my mom..

Her Scorpio Sun opposes my Taurus Moon
Her pluto square my Sun
Her Mars squares my Pluto

Holy craaaap.. I just realized my Pluto squares like 6 of her planets.. o_o'

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posted January 05, 2013 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Debby4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by suireen:
Hmmm.. Ego conflicts maybe? Same thing happens with my mom..

Her Scorpio Sun opposes my Taurus Moon
Her pluto square my Sun
Her Mars squares my Pluto

Holy craaaap.. I just realized my Pluto squares like 6 of her planets.. o_o'


Lol! Maybe THAT's why

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posted January 05, 2013 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the chart... (I'm outside, she's inside) now, I'm not a total beginner in astrology so I do already know we are both Aries, and think about her Taurus rising and Libra moon and Mercury and Mars (basically her whole chart) is my problem! LOL.

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posted January 05, 2013 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Debby4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LMAO! The story of Us by Taylor Swift played

Your sun,mercury, and venus are all in her 12th house. Along with you moon.

Your Pluto close (maybe conj.) her Neptune.
She has mars in the 3rd house. Her Uranus is in your 3rd house. Idk how to elaborate on those. O.O

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posted January 05, 2013 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for suireen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isee it now.. Sun and Venus in Aries opposing Libra Moon.. God.. Kinda hate it when those two energies fight.. I knew two guys(Sun btw).. Both HATED each other.. And trust me.. IT WAS HORRIBLE. But in your case it's probably not that horrible.

Your Mars and her mercury.. I'm guessing arguments?

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posted January 05, 2013 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Isee it now.. Sun and Venus in Aries opposing Libra Moon.. God.. Kinda hate it when those two energies fight.. I knew two guys(Sun btw).. Both HATED each other.. And trust me.. IT WAS HORRIBLE. But in your case it's probably not that horrible.

Your Mars and her mercury.. I'm guessing arguments?


ALL THE TIME. That is basically how we communicate, and no matter what I say she says something that I consider rude or unnecessary. Then she refuses to admit any wrong doing on her part no matter how I explain it (verbally, calmly, or during an argument)

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posted January 05, 2013 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for suireen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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ALL THE TIME. That is basically how we communicate, and no matter what I say she says something that I consider rude or unnecessary. Then she refuses to admit any wrong doing on her part no matter how I explain it (verbally, calmly, or during an argument)

Yeeeeep! Ego conflicts, same as my mom. 100% sure now it's Sun opposing Moon. And this is my first time reading a chart LOLOL. I was hesitating but I wanted to try.

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posted January 05, 2013 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's just weird because my dad could say the same thing to me my mom does but I NEVER get mad at my dad. Like, ever. I don't think we have nearly as many aspects as my mom and I do though either. Do we have any Pluto/Mars or Pluto/Mercury happening? When I was younger our arguments escalated quickly and would turn violent.

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posted January 05, 2013 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for suireen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It's just weird because my dad could say the same thing to me my mom does but I NEVER get mad at my dad. Like, ever. I don't think we have nearly as many aspects as my mom and I do though either. Do we have any Pluto/Mars or Pluto/Mercury happening? When I was younger our arguments escalated quickly and would turn violent.

I don't think so.. They're in harmonous aspects. I'm pretty sure that's just Aries-Libra energy.. The example of two guys I was friends with.. It was pure prejudice. The moment they say something, they argue. -_- And they both have to ask me everytime.. In which sides I'm supposed to be.. kdbaknkabf BAD MEMORIES

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posted January 05, 2013 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for suireen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh waaaaait... I see your Mom's Mercury in Pisces and your Pluto in Scorpio.. Those two sometimes get along.. Sometimes they don't.. I have Pisces Asc, Mom's Scorpio Sun, I noticed how she really views me as a pretender, like "a girl with a thousand masks" and she hated it, and I just hate how she always tries to hide her intentions, and when I argue about it, she lies more.

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posted January 05, 2013 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpios do do that! As an Aries I hate that too. Out with it already! YES, my Mom's Mercury in Pisces really comes out around other people. She's very needy and bellacose at home, but with other people she is oh-so charming and becomes very soft-spoken and hides her opinionated side. Drives me nuts because I see it as "fake."

With all my placements it's not like I go around shoving my opinion down people's throats but I can state them tactfully while still making my point too so as not to give off a false impression about my feelings.

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posted January 05, 2013 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not an expert in synastry or anything, but it was just interesting to note that her SN is conjunct with your MC. Not sure how to interpret that yet though but here's what I found:

Their Nodes conjunct your Midheaven/IC Axis: The North and South Nodes are said to represent important connections—even karmic ones—and that would be doubly true if their Nodes were placed across the 4th/10th cusps. If this is a difficult relationship, it would be worth exploring the stories of past lives where the two of you were family or shared a vocation.
http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/the-midheaven-in-synastry%E2%80%94meaningful-career-connections/

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posted January 05, 2013 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok can u post the composite from the extended chart selection at astro.com

and also copy and paste the compatibility for lovers report from grupovenus.com

I need both and dont edit out the aspect descriptions from the report thanks

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posted January 05, 2013 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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ok can u post the composite from the extended chart selection at astro.com

and also copy and paste the compatibility for lovers report from grupovenus.com

I need both and dont edit out the aspect descriptions from the report thanks


Here's the GrupoVenus link: http://grupovenus.com/infocompu.asp

And here's the composite:

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posted January 05, 2013 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lunae:
I'm not an expert in synastry or anything, but it was just interesting to note that her SN is conjunct with your MC. Not sure how to interpret that yet though but here's what I found:

Their Nodes conjunct your Midheaven/IC Axis: The North and South Nodes are said to represent important connections—even karmic ones—and that would be doubly true if their Nodes were placed across the 4th/10th cusps. If this is a difficult relationship, it would be worth exploring the stories of past lives where the two of you were family or shared a vocation.
http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/the-midheaven-in-synastry% E2%80%94meaningful-career-connections/


I wouldn't doubt it! There's been several instances where I feel like she treats me like her sister instead of her daughter. She can be very hypocritical and it drives me insane.

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posted January 05, 2013 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you find that she stifles you emotionally, and when you express yourself honestly, she has the tendency to disregard it and overlook things? Like she makes you feel silly? My parents and I have lots of squares too.

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posted January 05, 2013 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Do you find that she stifles you emotionally, and when you express yourself honestly, she has the tendency to disregard it and overlook things? Like she makes you feel silly? My parents and I have lots of squares too.

Yes and no. I can tell her how I feel if I want to and she understands but her behavior doesn't change. She's never defended me when I needed it either, and then my dad did a lacksadaisacal job defending me to her because dealing with her is like trying to wrestle a cannon.

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posted January 06, 2013 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump for RAS.

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posted January 06, 2013 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for suireen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes and no. I can tell her how I feel if I want to and she understands but her behavior doesn't change. She's never defended me when I needed it either, and then my dad did a lacksadaisacal job defending me to her because dealing with her is like trying to wrestle a cannon.

Ohmy.. That sounds like a fixed sign.. I'm guessing it's Uranus in Leo talking? It's also in the 4th house.

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posted January 06, 2013 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ohmy.. That sounds like a fixed sign.. I'm guessing it's Uranus in Leo talking? It's also in the 4th house.

I guess it could be, I always thought it was the Taurus rising. She's a lot better about keeping her temper now but she's still needy and demanding. I mean she's never going to be perfect nor am I so I guess I should stop harping on her.

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posted January 07, 2013 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Bump for RAS.


Hey there

The grupovenus report expires after 15 mins, so u can't link it, but I entered you and your mom's information into the site myself so it's cool.

There are two themes here! One is saturn, the other is neptune. The sun and moon are BOTH square saturn in composite as well as synastry. The sun and moon are also significantly affected by neptune in synastry since you have sun square neptune in synastry and Double Whammy negative Moon-Neptune aspects. As well as mars square neptune (in synastry).

One of the themes will obviously be mutual criticism...(saturn) You both feel restricted by the other, like the other person doesn't listen to your emotional needs and is too serious and demanding of you.

The other theme (neptune) is "You can act very silly and childish together. When the two of you get together, you love to let your imaginations run wild. You have difficulty accomplishing anything of a serious or mundane nature together, and you prefer to explore artistic, religious, and metaphysical areas, rather than focus on more mundane affairs."

that means it is difficult for both people to be responsible around the other person. It's much easier to be silly and goof off and be impractical and forgetful. Do you feel a lot like you have to be HER mom, when she should be acting like your mom? Like she is irresponsible towards you and doesn't take care of the chores that need to be done, etc?

Basically, the composite is at first sight what would seem to be a good composite, with Sun conjunct venus and moon square venus as well as moon trine mercury, moon sextile mars and moon trine jupiter. Sun is also opposite pluto. This all means you can have fun together and share much affection. However, the saturn, uranus, and neptune issues oftentimes prevent that from happening. Sun and moon is square saturn in both synastry and composite. moon and venus are afflicted by uranus and saturn in composite, and sun and moon are also heavily afflicted by neptune in synastry. That means a lot of mutual criticism and sense of restriction (saturn), irresponsibility and impracticality (neptune), as well as instability and lack of being able to count on one another(uranus).

Composite mercury square mars doesn't help one bit, as it guarrantees arguments.

EDIT: Composite moon trine mercury is especially a blessing in this instance, because it means you can talk about your feelings to one another and feel listened to, however that doesn't mean that the person will change or will ACTUALLY listen (as is the case with saturn always ignoring emotional needs and saying RULES FIRST). But at least that aspect is definitely an outlet.

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