posted January 05, 2013 02:51 AM            

I have been really greedy and posted both our charts below. If you could read in the way you describe, then what you say will be transformative - the way astrology can be. Understanding oneself, one's potentials, or another's can bring about transformative change. Please would you read which ever feels right or both. I feel lucky today, too.

In order of importance - his chart first:

And here's mine:

posted January 05, 2013 06:23 PM            

In some ways I hate reading so in detail as if I am totally off I have to face a horrible guffawing back lash - but I like to feel that if that is the case, then I just have to accept it. Sometimes things just go awry maybe for a number of reasons. So if this is totally wack, then I am sorry.

His chart:

1st house/ASC

I'm not feeling the ASC is correct, the chart feels like it wants to shift for the 1st house. It seems to indicate 18*-23* Libra as the ASC and when I try to disregard and read 1st house from the chart as it is, there is a push to read from where it Libra instead. So I am sorry, if this is disappointing already but I will have to continue and I am going to make the ASC 21* Libra. Because I'm going to guesstimate the rest of the chart cusps and placements it may be chaotic, however, I pretty much did the initial read for Jessica's chart by sensation, and then saw that the chart backed this up by placements, aspects etc. It shouldn't be a problem because I often have to go back and find and itemise astrologically to provide an explanation to the person I am reading - so essentially, I will read the impression in many cases then I get the direction where to find the astro relationships and back up, so here goes: (Perhaps as an exercise for myself, I will read the chart later for the person that might have such a chart - it will be similar because of the signs and aspects and energies between the planets - but because you would like it by the house for this person - I will take the sensation first then try and give you the house explanation).

So, 1st house:

He is naturally about 5'10", he is naturally slender to his legs. He will have grey in his beard but I see by his outer planets that he was born on 10th August 1957, so that is understandable. His hair is receding but thick at the back, it isn't all dry and unhealthy but is still soft. He wears something different to what I expected or tried to start him off in, is it a type of rock style T-shirt with belt and maybe black jeans? There is capped sleeves or T-shirt style short sleeves and the shirt may even be a little short for him. He has some kind of mediterranean mix through him, perhaps spanish lines it is hard to determine, maybe even some native american. His skin will have marks on it, from blood thinner medications when he is older. He has a meso-american feel but he actually has a strong ancestor of northern native american, and a swedish 'princess' mixed in - so that a long time ago a warrior from the north fell in love with a scandinavian, well I thought it was further back than this, but it was only in the 1800s in somewhere in lower canada I think but the words are 'Jesua' so perhaps where there was a Jesuit post.
He regularly considers, more youthful adornments such as tattoos and piercings. He clips his nose hairs, and probably where's a nice scent, however, he has a strong musky natural scent mainly from the mediterranean mix through him.

2nd house:
He is really smart. He reads and he considers many things that you would not imagine on looking at him. In fact many would think he is a simple man, but he is not, he has many considerations going on and ways up world politics, business, economics, and can totally assess trends, in fact, he could have been a business analyst, or rather he has an aptitude for such. I doubt he is poor, as he can manage his money sufficiently, he maybe has a jar of coins and spare change - he could smoke. He will have to attend to some kind of will or legal declaration to keep others happy, but he will only do it to keep the peace.

3rd House: He hardly knows his neighbours, he has possibly one sister that he treasures as she is like his second mother, and has maybe a brother that he has little contact with. He likes going out everyday to the shops just to buy bits and pieces, he could come back with 3 green mangoes, or maybe a packet of noodles. If he has what he considers a big shop it would only be a basket full as he doesn't like to buy more than he can carry. He had potential as a school child, the teachers knew this and aside from a little peer goings on he would have been a child that the teachers were frustrated with because they innately felt he could do much better. His social situation made him feel perhaps that he would keep his expectations low. Money was also an issue in his primary years and as now, he would often wear the same type of outfit.
It feels he had to travel to some extent in what would be considered 'local' so that he couldn't just walk down the street to the main shopping area, or to school. It feels like he had to maybe even catch a truck in sometimes, or would sometimes stay at a friends house because the distances that had to be travelled to do daily things were quite unreasonable, so in fact he spent a lot of time travelling and eventually just stayed home instead when he was older.

4th House:
There was a separation in the parents, the grandparents were also separated, and the siblings became separated and disjointed. There was a lot of yelling in the home, and it would not be unusual for him to find that no one was home all day and they hadn't told him where they would be. He luckily kept in contact with others more as an older teenager perhaps, and was able to phone people. He was burdened by a broken down mother - that he felt true compassion for, but in many ways he felt she contributed to making things worse for herself. I think he may have hardly known his real father and there is a sensation that he may have considered who the father actually was - as it doesn't seem clear or perhaps there was some conjecture that it may have been other than what was accepted.

5th House:
He has been very good looking, tallish, dark and handsome, with a bit of a cool/suave feel and some awesome knowledge or affinity with music, probably rock music though may have liked the Beatles, and the Who. Generally though Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, and later maybe Lenny Kravitz, and I can't remember those other ones, yes i do now, Motley Crue.
He has been attractive to both sexes. Girls romantically, and the guys think he is hot as well but in a guy hot, good mate to be proud of kind of way. Most interestingly he can understand why people like classical music, in fact he has such a wide appreciation of music, that he would even be able to like the little teeny bopper/little girl music of say a small grandaughter. So he could appreciate the Little Mermaid's songs, or the Swan Princess songs - stuff like that. He could actually have done well at dance and classical dance in particular as he has rhythm and would have had the legs for it and the artistic gestures would have been possible.

6th House:
He has huge appetites, Taurean style, so I don't know if this will fit with me wanting to push the ASC back or not - and it does fit with the chart posted. The appetites contribute to his stomach issues, and he is lacking an enzyme or something, which is not uncommon. The style of eating and foods that cause him the most grief - well actually, first of all he is taking stuff like alka seltzer, maybe its aspirin/ibuprofen, or things like to get him back on track when he wakes up with a headache and feeling a bit off. Then he will have a coffee, and I think a cigarette.
About 10am when he is feeling hungry, he might have some yoghurt on cereal, but this is not being digested properly. Then in the afternoon at about 3 or 4pm, he is looking in the fridge and will either cook himself up something hot, or will go and buy a burger, but this is when his eating phase kicks in and he could have a succession of 3 large meals, that are all pizza and burger-ish, or asian and spicy.

So he goes to bed with a conconction of food sitting on his stomach including a few drinks, and he will wake between 3-5am with upset stomach, indigestion and can feel at times like he would like to vomit. His bowels might fluctuate almost like Irritable Bowel Syndrome manifestations.

It seems that what would get him on track is the doctor. He just has to tell him his symptoms and these are a common set and easily treated. I think he is better to try a tea instead of the coffee, but it is not normal tea. He probably won't give up the smokes and he is not accessive but probably 10-15 a day.

He can eat the asian stuff despite the spiciness, however there is one type of asian stuff that is not good for him and I think it is chilli and palm oil, and that thai red paste kind of stuff. He is better with chinese, and the chinese spices would improve his digestion.

He could be better with soda water last thing at night about an hour before bed, and first thing he could have is some kind of bran crackers, with a 'cocktail' of club soda, squeeze of lemon and orange and a slug of a red juice (cranberry I think), and it wouldn't even harm him to add a dash of brandy or whisky. He is better off not taking the aspirin or whatever, unless his doctor prescribes it of course.

Maybe if its an Aries cusp on the 6th, then the Mars/Pluto semi-sextile Jupiter at 0* Libra would explain the excessive/imbalance to the eating pattern. And if its a Pisces cusp then there is almost a similar mix because Neptune is also on 0* and in Scorpio so it is, I think, late late Pisces or early early Aries. So yes, an addictive/obsessional quality at that time of day, that feels like having to fill a big hole.
Daily he could work maybe with some kind of astrology or something that has a similar feel like drawing up a feng shui plan. When I look to his daily routine, this scenario could be possible: he could pick a small grandaughter up and kiss her with a big smacking kiss. He could jokingly do a quick jog on the spot making out he is doing a quick get in shape and he is ready for the day. Then he is likely to read a paper, talk about like marks on his legs, or daily goings on, maybe do his feng shui plan that he's working on. Then he probably considers a shower but doesn't bother, and can go 3-4days with just a spruce up, but he will look fresh like he has showered. Then he will possibly retreat, could sit in a car listening to music, he can get a little soulful and depressed.
Then he will make all sorts of plans of things he is going to do and work towards. Then have his cereal, then he is likely to go out for the day he could work at a service station on the counter or something like that. He will sit around for a lot of the day and just chat or thumb through newspapers and articles. Then possibly about 3 or so he will duck out for that hamburger. Then at about 6 he could have a dinner break and go to the pub/bar for a meal and a drink, then he might stay there a few hours and watch TV there, then he could ride/drive to someone's place then he could stay there. But I can't work out whether he really has his own place or not. He could have people who keep messaging him that he either ignores a bit or sometimes answers.

7th House:
He probably married when he was young like 18-20yrs old. He probably had a child that has had a child too. The first relationship may have lasted until he was about 26yrs old, then he may have had few big relationships until he was around 35yrs old. Then he may have lived with someone for five years and still has some kind of burden/responsiblity from that relationship. He can easily just walk out on a relationship, once he gets a feeling that he just doesn't want to be around them very much. He can have a wandering eye, and has a little ADHD when it comes to attractions, so he can have a short attention span with a relationship - and is really only likely to stick around if there are more advantages then just the relating, or perhaps if the person is very attentive to his needs and does a lot for him.

He can tolerate attractiveness in a wide range of shapes colours and forms. He knows he is attractive, funny, smart and sexy. He knows he won't run short on romantic options in his life - however, someone to do a lot for him is another matter and more and more as he gets older he will like someone to do the 'little things' the extra things, as he likes to have someone to do the practical things and look after him, and be in charge of running his life a bit - if he likes how they go about it.

8th House:
He is 'sanguine' in how others perceive his attitude, and open to bringing others into his life. He can cook a romantic dinner and do it quite well, but would probably rather buy in a feast of takeaway. He makes a nice grandfather, that would have no problem choosing the cutest colourful toys. He has nothing to inherit, he has some degree of assets that others press him to get a will sorted about. He could well have been part of some kind of athletic/achievement trophy system when he was younger where he was the recipient one year and so his name would be added to others.

9th House: He has travelled on a plane, he has driven long distances and maybe even caught a lift with long distance travelling trucks. He may have been involved in big business that had a illegal twist to it. He has a flair for photography and could easily make have pursued this lucratively. He may have formal qualifications, perhaps he did a home or part time course in book keeping - maybe that is what he does with the drawing up chart/plan feeling, as there seems to be calculations involved and I can't ascertain whether it is bookeeping or some kind of placement of things within a chart or a plan or a spreadsheet. He is not christian, as such, he is quite spiritual but it is only a thin spectrum of beliefs, I think it is similar to Jainism, or the very few beliefs he regards as worthwhile are consist with Jainism.

10th House:
He is temperamental, things haven't worked out as the way he would have wished, he thought over the years he would eventually sort career out, however now he feels he is running out of times for things to 'just happen'. He has made his mark in something, he feels, and I think it is socially, he feels he is almost iconic socially, and his name, he believes is awesome and people associate it with a real character. If he one a lot of money he would give a huge amount to people living in terrible circumstances. If he could he would like to work in a government department and account the money to where it was needed regardless of what people said it was for - he feels he could get the billions where they are needed most. He is disgusted by oil prices, and would things that something needs fixing in the world, and given the time to sort through 'the books' he thinks he and a good team could get a few answers and sort out many of the world's ills in a few weeks - this is of great discomfort to him, and has undermined his own successes, because he is still waiting for the world to change, and get sensible, he hasn't given up hope, but he has essentially put his own life on hold in anticipation for becoming one of the revolutionary force to bring about world change. If someone thought that he was lazy they would have to think again, the problem is he isn't quite sure, and doesn't have all the facts, as yet, he thinks, to know what activities a worthwhile to improving the world and the conditions for others. So in many ways he is marking time waiting for some kind of inspiration to show him what is the best and positive way to go about improvements and what needs to be moved on from.

11th house:
He has loads of faces that he knows, then knows quite a few by name, is not involved in many groups if at all, but believes he is a member in various conceptual groups, so he ascribes to a genre, or he ascribes to a set of values/lifestyle choices. He could be a master crossworder or sudoku king. He could have been a male model, he had the right physique, has sex appeal/attractiveness and has something about his eyes and his face structure.

12th House:
He weighs up his attributes and categorises his strengths and weaknesses. Secretly he would have liked to be a daytona drag racer, and can picture the photos with the girls either side, the great car, and the crowd cheering. He loves movies, spy/ thriller/suspense and mysteries. He could have been the iconic man that he pictures himself, but he made sacrifices. He gets some depression over these thwarted visions of himself - but understands, and I can't put the sensation well enough into words, but it is a feeling of acceptance/unattachment/and the wheel of life. Subconsciously he doesn't feel he has truly lost out, that nothing worthwhile is truly lost, and that superficiality falls away and once your dead and buried your flesh rots off you the same as any other man.

So, in many ways the houses correspond to the chart shown but possibly it is picked up by rulerships because the 5th/6th have intermingling themes by sign but the rulerships end up picking up flavours either way - the same happens with some of the other houses, particularly the 11th/12th.

It will be interesting to see your response as he seems such a distinct person but I wonder if he is not like this at all.

I will post this, and come back to your chart. I haven't really read back through much and would probably change things if I had time to peruse a definite feel chart. Plus I keep having to switch between screens to view the chart and then adjust to wear it feels to be adjusted. So fingers crossed it makes sense or is reasonably close to type. Plus also I just wrote on some of the house things, there would be problem be more if I searched the impression of specific questions, or other key themes of the houses.

posted January 05, 2013 07:03 PM            

I'll add comments for each house, at least where I can.

quote:

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Originally posted by Chryseis:

So, 1st house:

He is naturally about 5'10", he is naturally slender to his legs. He will have grey in his beard but I see by his outer planets that he was born on 10th August 1957, so that is understandable. His hair is receding but thick at the back, it isn't all dry and unhealthy but is still soft. He wears something different to what I expected or tried to start him off in, is it a type of rock style T-shirt with belt and maybe black jeans? There is capped sleeves or T-shirt style short sleeves and the shirt may even be a little short for him. He has some kind of mediterranean mix through him, perhaps spanish lines it is hard to determine, maybe even some native american. His skin will have marks on it, from blood thinner medications when he is older. He has a meso-american feel but he actually has a strong ancestor of northern native american, and a swedish 'princess' mixed in - so that a long time ago a warrior from the north fell in love with a scandinavian, well I thought it was further back than this, but it was only in the 1800s in somewhere in lower canada I think but the words are 'Jesua' so perhaps where there was a Jesuit post.
He regularly considers, more youthful adornments such as tattoos and piercings. He clips his nose hairs, and probably where's a nice scent, however, he has a strong musky natural scent mainly from the mediterranean mix through him.

2nd house:
He is really smart. He reads and he considers many things that you would not imagine on looking at him. In fact many would think he is a simple man, but he is not, he has many considerations going on and ways up world politics, business, economics, and can totally assess trends, in fact, he could have been a business analyst, or rather he has an aptitude for such. I doubt he is poor, as he can manage his money sufficiently, he maybe has a jar of coins and spare change - he could smoke. He will have to attend to some kind of will or legal declaration to keep others happy, but he will only do it to keep the peace.

3rd House: He hardly knows his neighbours, he has possibly one sister that he treasures as she is like his second mother, and has maybe a brother that he has little contact with. He likes going out everyday to the shops just to buy bits and pieces, he could come back with 3 green mangoes, or maybe a packet of noodles. If he has what he considers a big shop it would only be a basket full as he doesn't like to buy more than he can carry. He had potential as a school child, the teachers knew this and aside from a little peer goings on he would have been a child that the teachers were frustrated with because they innately felt he could do much better. His social situation made him feel perhaps that he would keep his expectations low. Money was also an issue in his primary years and as now, he would often wear the same type of outfit.
It feels he had to travel to some extent in what would be considered 'local' so that he couldn't just walk down the street to the main shopping area, or to school. It feels like he had to maybe even catch a truck in sometimes, or would sometimes stay at a friends house because the distances that had to be travelled to do daily things were quite unreasonable, so in fact he spent a lot of time travelling and eventually just stayed home instead when he was older.

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1st house:
Your description is mainly correct, about 5ft 8 or 9 in height, very slender, receding grey hair. But no mediterranean mix. He is from Ireland and very pale skinned.

2nd house
Absolutely correct - very clever, well read, economist, well off, important job.

posted January 05, 2013 07:54 PM            

5th House:
Absolutely correct about his interest and affinity with music, although I can't be certain of which groups, singers.

6th House:
This doesn't appear to be right. He eats carefully and is very health conscious, eating only fresh, organic foods, for example. Take aways and burgers don't fit, as it were. He doesn't smoke either. I am not aware of any digestive problems. He sleeps well.

He has his own place, lives alone, no children. so no grand children. The routine you describe may be true for the weekends as during the week he in an office working very long hours. Often spends many hours working on a Sunday too.

7th House:
Some of this doesn't fit the actual events although there may be approximations. He married at around 30, and did not have children. Separated after more than 15 years of marriage. Not sure of the timing of other relationships - there may have been earlier ones.

9th House:
Some differences here - his religion is catholic with strict catholic schooling. He observes catholic church going traditions, is quite spiritual and is interested in different belief systems. He is highly educated, as an economist (which would involve spreadsheets and graphs) and administrator.

!0th House:
This is really interesting and may be very true. He is interested in world affairs and bringing about change for the betterment of society and the impoverished. But he is not famous. He shares his name though with a famous person.

12th House:
This rings true. He can be very self critical, detached and analytical both about himself and others.

posted January 05, 2013 08:47 PM            

I thought I would wait to see if this person sounded right to you, and decided just to push on instead, so I could end up in double disgrace within a few hours.

Straight away, I feel like I want to click my tongue and go no....
Why is that I wonder, I will investigate.
You don't give yourself enough credit, you tend to settle out of a feeling of desperation.

The chart seems correct to read, though an adjustment could be made, perhaps by house system due to location - but its negligible, though would be important in superior calculations that I have no knowledge of, which are almost a different science.

So, 1st House:
You are very intense about what you would like to acquire, you wait like a crocodile to strike (sorry, doesn't sound very complimentary). Your feet are strong, brown and knobbly. You have a small degree of bone malformation in your joints, particularly elbows, shoulders, thumbs and ankles it seems like a type of arthritis. There is something about the prominence of your feet being eye catching, perhaps you wear a type of shoe and stride out in a striking way. Your face is not noticed for some time and it seems to be hidden behind your hair, or more so, your hair, stance and stride are noticed before your eyes. You could wear glasses, it could seem like your eyes are shaded and hidden behind a bouncy strong fringe. One would hear you talking before they could actually see your eyes they seem so hidden away.

2nd House:
There is denial here, like you say to yourself and others don't worry about any plainness, just look to my exuberance in the first impressions - and so begins the undercutting. You have struck off a huge chunk of your natural strengths and chucked them under a rock and smashed the rock on top because you think these strengths and character traits you are hiding are too plain and won't bring you the type of man/friends/and fun that you want. I'm not sure what they are yet these abilities and strengths. I think you may have a scientific capability, you could have worked on studies involving say the merits of different dog foods on improving the dogs coat,teeth and overall health stuff like that. I think you could also be very good at using a stanley knife on a grid board and cutting up stuff like for scrap booking or maybe it could be something else like when you put your arms through one way pockets into a humidy crib or a clinically sterile environment and do something with that.

You could be loaded. You have worked a long time and saved most of what you earned perhaps. Though you still feel that you only have a simple situation financially and that things cost a fortune - chuckle, I think you might be a miser.

3rd House:
Another house of strengths and some of these you do feel proud enough to show to the world. You have a gift of the gab, a gift of persuasion, a big wide smile and expressive gestures, like expressive nodding or tossing your thick full hair. You are also very smart, you probably have a school academic achievement list a mile long. You could teach now, as you are a natural teacher.

You like music too and you can rock out to music and throw yourself around with it, which despite sounding a bit dorky, is actually attractive and gives a feel that you are a hot and interested sexual partner - so it does you credit with sending out those kind of signals.

You have had several local feelings in your life so you seem to have moved from place to place a bit - you quickly acclimatise to a new locale and begin talking about the guy at the shop by first name as if you have known him for years, and truly you cover ground very quickly and probably know someone as well as some people do know someone having known them for years.

You could be a mayor or a local member for council, someone in the limelight and weaving your influence and personality throughout the community.

4th House:
Very nice parents, for the most part, although possibly a little autistic, both very nice, good senses of humour etc. Your father with his slight OCD/neuroticism/and autistic spectrum could go a bit nuts sometimes and have a brain snap, but you and your mum would have known how to handle him, and once his tantrum was over, he could be cajoled into a happy mood with cream cakes or something.

You probably had quite a modest setting although it feels like there was great wealth inherent in the location eventually. So the house probably ended up being worth a fortune.

Your parents were a little quaint, and could have funny ideas like all sorts of intricate ideas of how they would assist you in life based on some convoluted plan of your father and the aquiescence of your mother.

5th House:
You have had a **** romantic life but maybe had a time when you were involved in church youth camps and such or involved with exchange student programs, that sort of thing. I think you are sporty and athletic and could probably play squash or racket ball or tennis. You can play sport and be active into your old age and I hazard a guess that you will be nimble and active into your nineties. In fact you are very outgoing and are the type of person to throw on a wet suit and try anything once and laugh if it doesn't turn out that well.

6th House:
You have a stiff neck and a slight damage to summer upper vertebrae, possibly from some kind of whiplash you had once or being thrown side ways. It could have even been in a ride, like a show ride, or even a white water rafting boat, or maybe a car, something threw you very quickly to one side and snapped you back the other, I think, and it was probably only in the last ten years. I think the most you will get from it is pain. So it was a slight wear to the normal position, more like a strain and the vertebrae never quite got back in place but it is only a matter of millimetres - though it could have pressure on a nerve or similar. The stiff neck is also because I think you tend to hold your neck and upper shoulders stiffly out of trying to contain some of the stuff that you regard as not fit for human consumption, that you keep under wraps. You could look almost as young as thirty in your actual body despite that slight knobbly warp on a couple of joints. I think you have never let your weight get out of hand, though you are probably quite a large person, but you seem fit, you may have extra pounds but you can carry it and your body shape doesn't go all dumpy.

7th House
You appreciate quirkiness, original thinking, people who live and think out side the square. Your mother could be your best friend and she may look up to you as you seem so self assured. I can imagine you may only have one child if any and there is possibly some kind of genetic thing that you know something about, that either limits your interest to have children, or limits your ability to have children.

You may have a child but more likely you tried once and something went wrong and you decided you wouldn't try again. Either way, mothering does not seem a big part, if it is you are quite detached from it.

You could have been in the military for awhile, but this wouldn't have worked out. I think this house reading is strange because it is talking a lot about the affairs of other houses. So in many ways again I think you have shifted things under the carpet. One on one relationships have been difficult, or they fire up and then extinguish.

8th House:
I can feel myself walking into a darker, quieter part that is a little bit eerie. I don't know if abuse raised its ugly head so if this is not the case then it is some kind of other thing like confinement even if only mentally by what you were told to be/behave like. There wasn't a clear view of yourself growing up of where you begin and the other finishes or what role you play, it is like social rules, or ways of behaving were all confused. Perhaps your father was a closet cross dresser (you are probably regretting having asked me now, sorry).

9th House:
You are suffocated by your 8th house to some extent, and you feel like your would like to scream out at all injustices to you. I can't read anything else with this house. It's in lock down like there is an issue with faith and beliefs etc and indecision and strong sentiments with ninth house affairs like you don't want to open a can of worms.

10th House:
Trying to move on, but its a struggle the spread of the eigth through the next two houses have oppressed them. Though essentially positive, you can get disheartened terribly, hence the desperation to strike while the irons hot or be a bit grasping just to assure you get what you're after or you don't miss out on something. I think perhaps you were disadvantaged in that your parents weren't helpful is supporting you to do what other kids did, they didn't seem to get it right, when you look back, and you fear if you are a mother that you will screw things up too. You have felt so awkward at times, that the best way to deal with it is as simple as one foot in front of the other, you didn't want to complicate it any further than that.

For career, you could have been on a school board or you could have been on quality control with kids canteens etc, or like I said you had the aptitude with investigating things. Or some kind of manufacturing or churning out of something. Sorry bit of a hopeless attempt at this house by me.

11th House:
You could be part of a ballroom dance group, or be on the committee for a parade that raises money for charities. You have the propensity to do good works and will help people out by rallying support. You dream of tidy streets, with orderly rubbish bins, healthy trees and people shouting good morning to one another as they busy themselves about caring for their homes.

12th House:
There is a strong previous life feel pressing on the chart. It is a person of disability, polio or maybe some kind of palsy, I think, and it feels like from a stately home in like the american south, like in one of those big old estates. And the person grew up and lived despite having to get around with braces and walking sticks and later a wooden wheelchair. They had a beautiful singing voice, and beautiful hair, and when they were young they had an attractive face, a female, though there seems like a strong almost twin psyche in the person. I think they ended up being a spiritualist/medium. The estate was not very functional past about the person's teens and she ruled the household like a tyrant, though she was well loved because it was recognised she had to be strict, and though there was money if sold, there wasn't much cash so they had to sell off acres here and there. And she had a best friend which I think was her much younger sister. And if I was to find a name it would be Hattie Primble in Louisiana, and her sister Lucy which I am thinking is your mother in this life.

Hope that doesn't make you send you mental. Of course if it is not you at all you are very welcome to write me off as a lunatic.

posted January 05, 2013 09:38 PM            

Wow, I don't get at all that he likes christianity but you said he observes the traditions. I felt that he had a sensation of writing it off like something he hates.

I thought he has a small child that he is a grandfather to, it comes up often.

Though like yoghurt, I wouldn't have thought he'd go for organic stuff, as it felt he was happy with burgers and such although they could be good burgers and pizzas and pub meals, nevertheless they felt like takeaway bistro style food and a lot of it from about 3pm.

I thought he worked in a service station. It felt like he didn't do a great deal but looked through papers and articles while he was serving people in a low activity service station. I would never guessed an important job - this is very humbling, lol.

When I said tall dark and handsome, I meant dark hair, though I still feel he has like a spanish mix through. The native american/canada thing as an ancestor seems out of it, but I can't shake it. The Scandinavian woman stands out white and bright and very young and I can't place where a native type of warrior person would be so high up and available to meet a scandinavian woman, and besides it feels like around the border between canada and northa america. But that seems too much of a long shot now.

Close knit family, it didn't feel like at all, though definitely close with at least one sibling that felt like a sister.

I'm totally off with the relationships, and the child and grandchild.

Thank you for such great feedback, I love it and it is very helpful. I thought he was a regular drinker and often felt like he had a hangover. I'm not sure of timeframes, so it could have been ages ago that he stopped off at someone's place after the pub. It doesn't feel like a 9-5 job either but feels like he does a bit of work at home before he goes in and doesn't feel like he has his yoghurt and cereal till morning tea time. Maybe the listening to music in the car is on his way to work, it just felt like he started his actual 'right well now I'll start work' kind of thoughts, more later in the morning. But it is hard to distinguish really.

Thank you, that's interesting, sort of close on somethings but not really how I saw him, and way off on lots too. I can not imagine him regularly wearing a tie for instance, which is probably what he wears to the office. My impression was so much more almost laid back, not work-a-holic.

I don't think you will like what I saw for your chart. Perhaps its not a good idea to get any further idea on your relationship off me as I might influence your attitude and it could be based on something untrue.

posted January 05, 2013 10:04 PM            

Well, if I'm going to look ridiculous then I may as well look really ridiculous and chuckle myself silly - just hope I don't do any damage as I can't resist health issues, being a super dooper Virgo an all. But I try to be sensible - I guess people just have to understand that I might fill their heads with a load of hoo-hah.

I am right sometimes.

posted January 05, 2013 10:18 PM            

2nd House:
Low self worth could be right (love the way you describe it) although that is a relative term. I may be imagining that I am less worthy than my strengths indicate. So do many people.

posted January 05, 2013 10:53 PM            

I didn't move too often in fact, lived in the same house for 30 years and have just moved. But, as you say, have felt home here very quickly.

4th House:
Niceish and very conventional parents, no problems with father - he had excellent social skiils. We moved in my late teens and the 2nd house is now worth a lot.

5th House:
A non-existent romantic life. I was shy and a dreamer. I am not sporty, quite the reverse. Can't even swim properly. But I like to keep fit and visit the gym, though sporadically.

6th house:
No damage to backbone. No accidents ever. I am smallish built and have been a a few pounds overweight, but have got that under control now.

7th House:
Yes, I appreciate original thinking very much. My mother was not my best friend. She had very little power in the home and did as she was told, so could not support me or my interests. No genetic malfunction. I had two children and spent most of my life bringing them up alone as I separated from my husband when they were young. Marriage was bad.

8th House:
You mention abuse - yes that did occur, but not by a member of the family.

9th and 10th House:
I'm not sure about this - I think I recovered from my past but regret not having been allowed to follow my interests (acting and theatre) and develop my talents at a young age.

11th House:
Can't identify with this entirely. I'm not sure I could be a pillar of society, although I could work in all sorts of things. I have now begun to write and publish educational resources, work with media etc.

12th House:
This is fascinating.

posted January 06, 2013 01:14 AM            

Yes not autistic with your father in terms of introverted but autistic in terms of being fanatical and stuck on a way of describing something, or how something should be done or he won't have anything to do with it if it is not exactly such and such - like a sulk. And can get focused and hard to turn off from a track if he wants to explain it in a certain way - not picking up the social cues, that other people are over it.

Sounds like I should lay off the health ideas - I'm sure others out there are frowning and wagging their finger at me. I would not have thought a small person, but a fit person though larger, like 5'7 and with good amount of covering but fit looking. But not even sporty, which was a big impression - so am way off with that as well.

Well, maybe I should withdraw a bit. I like to be closer than this and it seems too way off with things I thought were more steadfast.

I would look into the synastry or actually it is much quicker for me to review the composite after getting a look at the synastry - however, there are too many failings and I think there is only going to be more. So all in all, I think it would be better for me to leave your relationship alone.

Thanks again.

posted January 11, 2013 04:46 PM            

You said -

" It keeps getting picked up by Mercury at 29*. If you notice, you have Pluto, Mercury, Neptune, and Saturn all at 29* "

How strange is that! Is 29* significant in any way, apart from the coincidence?

""Neptune is a big culprit in the confusion, delays, catch me if you can, can't be pinned down, guises, etc which no doubt figure strongly.""

YES, very much so.

" I was going to try to change the composite based on what I think his ASC might be as I mentioned. If you're interested in me seeing the chart with the change of the ASC based on my suspicion of his, then I can view it and see if there is any other indications, particular will highlight some aspects of the relationship. "

Yes, please. Would love to see if a change brings other things to light. There may be some indication as to what drives the Neptune, or whether that confusion will be transformed to anything more stable.

posted January 11, 2013 07:21 PM            

Here's his amended Natal first, followed by the composite:

posted January 12, 2013 05:14 PM            

I do understand that I can be tactless, brash and brunt but I just voice what I feel inclined too. You are probably better to seek another reader for more personal insights or involved communication, as the less responsibility I have - the better, as far as I am concerned.

I will though proceed now to look at the amended composite based on my own whims that your man's chart is Libra rising. However, its best to keep an open mind, as I could be totally deluded.

So, looking at the amended composite chart, the Vertex is now in exact opposition to Pluto in the 12th, and exactly square the Saturn-Node conjunction. When Vertex 'equals' Pluto, it seems that there is a lot of deep seated anger and resentment however it makes the make up phase so much sweeter - so on the point of explosive bust up, the Vertex sings its harmonious call and the intense passion can go from cross to amazing depth of a reflourishing and renewed attachment to one another. Because Pluto is in the 12th in this composite - this translates as a kind of relief that some intense emotion has been aired and hence each can feel grateful that they have had that interaction, however with the square to the Node, the battery power of the relationship is not replenishing but kind of slowly burning out. So the Vertex is fortunate in one way to replenish the relationship in the moment - to assist with the vibe between you, however with the combo of pluto and node in challenging aspect, something is slowly dawning on both of you, but probably more likely one more so, as the input is always unbalanced/or unequally different with pluto -hence the domination/control themes.

With the Vertex in square to the Saturn-Node, of itself, this gives Saturn a free reign on the Node, and its like a millenia of lessons/issues and grievances get thrown up in the face of the relationship to be used for lesson material. Which is great, though can seem like a chore, and a bit of a drag.

With the amended composite, Moon is still in the same house, however it is now brought into an actual contact with the ascendant which is a plus. The aspect is a quincunx, which is a challenge though, and again its like more of a reason to get to the emotional heart of the relationship, however the dawning wising up of each other as to the flaws ('negative' or critical side of a Virgo ASC) will undermine the interest to be in each other's company too much.

Mercury is still strong because it is ruler of the ascendant, in Virgo and in the first house, plus it is aspecting the other 29* planets/node as stated previously. And is ruling the Gemini MC as well, which is trine the composite Moon in Aquarius, so you get along like a house on fire, and communication has the runway all lit up.

Venus with this chart, now in the second, is also still strong to the ASC as it is on 'similar degree', and because it is in the Venus house of the 2nd, the relationship doesn't lose the Venus emphasis by this amended idea. With Jupiter on the ASC, and Venus contacting the ASC and in the 2nd, there is a great inducement to have property together and now that the Moon is in contact with the ASC, you are more likely to be in each other's close proximity at some point, though its a challenge.

I actually saw with Transits to the composite that you probably send each other property/location/or even just romantic getaway ideas. You said you have known each other for a year. Well if you look at the Transits to the composite, just to name a few, you have had Neptune/Chiron opposing Pluto, and squaring the Saturn-Node, and conjunct the Vertex (in the amended composite). This amounts to wanting to take the relationship to a new level almost immediately - so you probably thought about property and living together within the first few weeks.

Also T. Saturn has been conjunct Neptune in the 2nd, and with Neptune as ruler of the amended 7th, this opens up the relationship more, so that you become more part of public life, and more people are aware of the relationship.

With Jupiter strong on the ASC from the 12th in the amended composite, the relationship has a lot of inherent good feeling and has the
legs' to ride many dramas. Plus with the Virgo ascendant,Mercury in Virgo, and Moon conjunct the 6th and in close aspect to the ASC, you are involved with each other on a daily basis, talking about what you did with your day, so bringing the long distance 'other' into the daily arena, though with Moon in Aquarius, quincunx Mars in the first, there could be some heated tension that this constant thread of involvement can be an unwelcome distraction and interuption at times.

I think if you see the relationship honestly, you might consider that a big part of its attraction is that though you are in almost constant communication, you are probably not very much actually in each other's space, so there is a constant drive to bridge the gap and get closer, which translates as a big impetus to smooth things over. The nature of the relationship is the separative qualities and the want to surmount them.

Having said that though, it is likely to be a very significant relationship and long lasting, though not likely to be till the end of your lives as there is a distinct sensation, of you, I think it is 'getting wind' of a realization and calling it quits as I think truth be known you are putting a huge amount of energy and effort into the relationship and at times you will feel on the verge of cracking.

When in close proximity, you will likely feel in a short amount of time that you want to take yourselves out of the confines of the closeness. One might do this by looking to the future, and going on with a deluge of future goals/ideals, the other might try to escape the proximity by getting waylaid when they have just ducked out to the shop, or by shutting down like a mute and looking like they are muffling any input.

All up, there is more communicative richness and sharing of ideas than many others have, and you are certainly both attracted to one another and to a degree, dependent on one another's involvement in their lives.

posted January 12, 2013 05:49 PM            

There is a great deal in this that I recognise. My patience is likely to run thin before very long, in fact, I already feel an inclination to end it as it is exhausting.

One final question and I hope there is a quick answer:
It was suggested that to me that he may be withholding secrets, such as involvement with another woman. Do you get any sense of that please, or is that evident in the charts?