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peachbeigeblue
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posted January 09, 2013 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I honestly want a genuine interest in what I dealt with before I post my chart

1) father told me to kill myself by age 8
2) father would tell me before going to school I looked like a dog before age 10 (I'm a Leo) edit - he called me a cow at 13
3) father would tell me before age 11 that the only reason he would leave my mother was to get away from me (and continued to until adulthood)
4) I developed an eating disorder and has to see therapist who gave up on me bc I wouldn't talk
5) father would call me a **** , ***** , prostitute if I got home late and at that point I hadn't even been kissing guys except once (years prior) at age 15. He would also accuse my pictures of my guy friends as being trophy pictures, as if I slept with them all. Keep in mind I was a virgin
6) my mother completely ignored this stuff and favored my little brother. I had ADHD my whole life but they were against medicine until he was put on it - seriously affected my life
7) started seeing therapist for eating disorder again
8) he diagnosed me with ADHD after knowing me a year and referred me to psychiatrist
8) I was date raped
9) I saw therapist more, got over eating discover
10) my dad said he would kill me himself if he didnt think I would do it myself one day
11) I still am positive enough to help other people and always try to do the right thing
Don't quote.
I will post my chart if anyone will seriously try to help me explain these points in my life through my chart. Serious inquires only.

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posted January 09, 2013 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tofu addict     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun pluto aspects?

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Haplesschild*
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posted January 09, 2013 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Harsh Nessus aspects and Pluto?
My parents have said and done some very... Hurtful things too.

I have Sun tightly conjunct Pluto with both parents and harsh squares in my chart with them as well. Both their North Nodes tightly conjunct my Sun too.

Do you have harsh Saturn aspects in your natal?

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posted January 09, 2013 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As Haplesschild asked, what's going on with your Saturn? Or harsh aspects to your Sun?

Also what about your 6th house? I also used to have issues with food and daily work habits (similar to your experience with ADHD meds) and I have a loaded 6th house..

It might be useful to look at your synastry and composite with your dad, family synastry is usually very revealing..

Anyway sorry you went through that peach

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posted January 09, 2013 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And based on what he's said to you, he doesn't sound mentally stable? Hope it didn't damage you too much =(, I suspect he has some deep seated issues himself.

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posted January 09, 2013 05:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
H12 Pluto being your chart ruler?

I can look via another system when I have time. Still at work..

I don't think Nessus. I mean such things should be clear in a chart without getting.. "Fancy" IMO..

Y do u want them explained though? They are your past. Or is that what you are trying to do? Resolve them..

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posted January 09, 2013 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eating disorder is moon Pluto. Ur taurus moon opposite Scorpio Pluto iirc.

Sun is t-squared no?

Does your sister get the same treatment?

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posted January 09, 2013 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Peach, that's so sad and harsh
I knew there was a reason why I kept your birth chart saved after all this time .

I'm no expert, but there are many harsh aspects between Sun-Moon-Pluto and Saturn-Venus as well. I don't want to list them yet because I don't want to influence anyone elses' input. BUT I can clearly see how it plays out on your birth chart..sorry you had to go through that! Wow

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posted January 09, 2013 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PBB sweetheart,

I'm so sorry. That's all I can say because I have no ability to analyze your chart. Just be aware that I'm fully rooting for you.

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posted January 09, 2013 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's sad to read all that you went through... can't offer natal chart analysis.. but just wana tell you, stay strong whatever that is bad will not last long.

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MillyX
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posted January 09, 2013 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MillyX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You went through a lot & I am glad that you are staying strong. Nobody should go through that. I hope you don't mind but I saw your chart on the 'post your picture' thread. I couldn't help but look at your chart, since you've been through alot.What stood out to me was Sun square Moon in a tight aspect. It's a difficult aspect. Your midheaven is in Leo which is ruled by the sun. The midheaven & the sun can sometimes represent the father...This aspect means that you have to confront alot of obstacles in life. Here is what is said about this aspect: For whatever reason, these people didn't feel needed or accepted. The clash between their parents or parent figures, if indeed there was one,made them feel unaccepted for who they were. In some cases, they literally felt unwanted by one or both parents. Here's more info about this aspect http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/sunsquaremoon.html

I also see ruler of the 1st house in the 12th. I have that too in my chart & sometimes it means that there are struggles early on in life but hopefully as we get older things get 'easier'

Moon in hard aspect to Pluto. Sometimes can mean problems with the mother. Like mom didn't really want you there...Here's what is said about this aspect. It is quite possible that you were mistreated because one of your parents resented your being there, but you may also have been simply struggling for survival in a situation which provided little emotional nurturance. Regardless of the particulars of your early conditioning, you do have the capability to healing these old wounds through the same energy which has sustained their pain.

Again very sorry you had to go through all of this. It's sad when parents aren't there to support & nurture a child. You are a survivor! & you should be proud of that! These negative experiences made you a stronger person & if you went through all of that, you can make it through anything.

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posted January 09, 2013 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you all for your help and support. it makes sense if it is the sun that shows this because my sun is afflicted by my moon, chart ruler, and ascendant. whenever i have gotten chart readings, the moon was just brought up with reference to my mom. which i do believe i was neglected in some ways but no one ever brought up problems with my father.

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posted January 09, 2013 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
Harsh Nessus aspects and Pluto?
My parents have said and done some very... Hurtful things too.

I have Sun tightly conjunct Pluto with both parents and harsh squares in my chart with them as well. Both their North Nodes tightly conjunct my Sun too.

Do you have harsh Saturn aspects in your natal?


i actually don't have any nessus afflictions, it is trine my moon, semi-sextile my sun and mercury and sextile my ascendant

i'm sorry to hear you have had problems with your parents, too. are the squares in the synastry? i have to look closer - i don't have a birth time for my mom and just an estimate for my dad's chart.

i will say it's interesting bc my dad is taurus/virgo. my 3 other siblings are all earth suns and i am the only fire sign in my family. although i do have an earth moon. my mom is air/earth.

i have saturn conjunct uranus opposite venus and chiron

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posted January 09, 2013 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tofu addict:
Sun pluto aspects?

yes, part of my tsquare

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peachbeigeblue
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posted January 09, 2013 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FireMoon:
As Haplesschild asked, what's going on with your Saturn? Or harsh aspects to your Sun?

Also what about your 6th house? I also used to have issues with food and daily work habits (similar to your experience with ADHD meds) and I have a loaded 6th house..

It might be useful to look at your synastry and composite with your dad, family synastry is usually very revealing..

Anyway sorry you went through that peach


thanks firemoon.
i do have my moon in my sixth. it's actually right on my DC but technically in the 6th. it can be interpreted as being in 6th or 7th, which i find to be fitting. i seem to either find/need security through work or love relationships

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posted January 09, 2013 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Haplesschild*:
And based on what he's said to you, he doesn't sound mentally stable? Hope it didn't damage you too much =(, I suspect he has some deep seated issues himself.

yeah i think he could be undiagnosed bipolar if i had to guess. he's not just that way to me, although i have gotten it the worst. my mom actually took an intuition class a couple years ago. at the end of if she got a free clairvoyant reading. during the reading, she said my dad was "wounded" - when my mom brought me up during the reading she mentioned that i got the brunt of it from my father.

he's very stubborn/dominant/strong personality. there's really no changing him. as my mom has always said

the birth time is an estimate. it could also be in gemini. i just figured i could see him more being double fixed that only one big three in fixed. gemini might make sense too - skinny legs

the tsquare with saturn and mars stands out to me. the empty space of that is conjunct my pluto/chart ruler - by the way.

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posted January 09, 2013 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
Eating disorder is moon Pluto. Ur taurus moon opposite Scorpio Pluto iirc.

Sun is t-squared no?

Does your sister get the same treatment?


nope, i mean he's crazy. but she didn't get anything close to what i did. at all. and she'd agree with that. she's also a lot different than me. upon first meeting, people usually think she's nicer and and i'm more mean. but it's actually the reverse when you get to the root of it. it's funny because our astro-numer sun and moon combo descriptions both kinda agree with what i just said. now she is engaged to a man but she dated girls mostly in high school - 23ish.

yeah i think the eating disorder was sun moon pluto tsq. ive noticed it with a few people now and it's always tsquares in fixed signs that i have

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posted January 09, 2013 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
nope, i mean he's crazy. but she didn't get anything close to what i did. at all. and she'd agree with that. she's also a lot different than me. upon first meeting, people usually think she's nicer and and i'm more mean. but it's actually the reverse when you get to the root of it. it's funny because our astro-numer sun and moon combo descriptions both kinda agree with what i just said. now she is engaged to a man but she dated girls mostly in high school - 23ish.

yeah i think the eating disorder was sun moon pluto tsq. ive noticed it with a few people now and it's always tsquares in fixed signs that i have


Lol I'd beat the crap out of ur dad his asc is right on my mars.

Moon-Pluto aspects: Ah, the dreaded Moon-Pluto aspects. In general, these are the people who take no BS. They know fakeness when they see it. These people have intuition that is almost never wrong, even if they do not listen to their intuition. They typically have great insight on things and ideas; they are interested in what makes people tick emotionally.

The conj, opp or square indicates control issues that are deeply imbedded into them. They can turn their emotions off with a switch; there is a power to control with emotions. a need for control. In some people's charts, this is indicative of anorexia or binge eating disorder, since Pluto represents extremes. There could also be paranoia or jealousy issues. There is a strong need to control emotions.

With the soft aspects the need to control is there, but not as prominent. These people find their emotional issues easier to deal with. They are charismatic and penetrating people who still take no BS.

Some men with these aspects might see women as power objects; women whom they can manipulate and control. Some women with this aspect have so much control issues they can not trust anyone and would rather be loners.

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posted January 09, 2013 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
empress, YTA, lilith

thank you all, angels.

millyx- thank you for all that content - i can definitely see that making sense and will check out the cafeastrology link as well

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posted January 09, 2013 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sand:
Lol I'd beat the crap out of ur dad his asc is right on my mars.

Moon-Pluto aspects: Ah, the dreaded Moon-Pluto aspects. In general, these are the people who take no BS. They know fakeness when they see it. These people have intuition that is almost never wrong, even if they do not listen to their intuition. They typically have great insight on things and ideas; they are interested in what makes people tick emotionally.

The conj, opp or square indicates control issues that are deeply imbedded into them. They can turn their emotions off with a switch; there is a power to control with emotions. a need for control. In some people's charts, this is indicative of anorexia or binge eating disorder, since Pluto represents extremes. There could also be paranoia or jealousy issues. There is a strong need to control emotions.

With the soft aspects the need to control is there, but not as prominent. These people find their emotional issues easier to deal with. They are charismatic and penetrating people who still take no BS.

Some men with these aspects might see women as power objects; women whom they can manipulate and control. Some women with this aspect have so much control issues they can not trust anyone and would rather be loners.


i'm really happy i got over the eating disorder. it was quite a long time - like a third of my life but i'm very happy i overcame it. it's interesting bc that one famous girl, demi lovato or whatever's chart is similar to mine and went through something similar with that and got over it too. may have already told you that

i definitely can see the no ******** thing and agree with the intuition part.

my dad's birthtime is an estimate - it could either be taurus or gemini. if it is gemini - his chart ruler is in taurus so maybe that's why it's hard for me to decide which. RAS thinks taurus - i showed her pictures

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posted January 09, 2013 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Julz87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peach, I hope I dont come off as weird or anything but if I could give you a tight hug right now I would.

*e-hug* xo


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posted January 09, 2013 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a painful story, Peach.

You mentioned that despite the trauma you suffered you still want to help people. But it seems to be the case that people who've experienced abuse in their early lives are people who develop a greater sense of awareness, compassion and sensitivity towards others. Many people on this forum seems to have undergone harsh childhood experiences in one form or another. It is a very sad fact, a nasty twist of fate no less, that such harsh lessons are inflicted for that to happen.

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posted January 09, 2013 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
i'm really happy i got over the eating disorder. it was quite a long time - like a third of my life but i'm very happy i overcame it. it's interesting bc that one famous girl, demi lovato or whatever's chart is similar to mine and went through something similar with that and got over it too. may have already told you that

i definitely can see the no ******** thing and agree with the intuition part.

my dad's birthtime is an estimate - it could either be taurus or gemini. if it is gemini - his chart ruler is in taurus so maybe that's why it's hard for me to decide which. RAS thinks taurus - i showed her pictures


8 years.. Yes u told me.

Well he is also a sun in taurus..

What puzzles me is how can u still like taurus men after all that?

Do u still live there?

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posted January 09, 2013 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And ur mom.. I remember the questions she was asking the reader.. How could she know that and wonder? Or maybe that was for the sake of the reader/ the reading..

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