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posted January 12, 2013 10:36 AM            

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Hey everyone

So the question I asked was if I'm gonna meet someone this year I will have a similar connection to as I used to have with a certain A

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judgment - 5 cups - empress
Plus 5 pents as the explanatory card

So should I say yes? Every time 5 pents seems to mean lovers it kind of always fits so I just don't know

And considering I still have feelings for A does it mean theres no way of avoiding drama/disappointment?

Thanks!!!!

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posted January 14, 2013 02:33 PM            

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Why would you want to have the same situation repeated? I think the Judgment card is telling you exactly that. Past is in the past, let it be. It brought you sadness (5 of Cups), even though I am sure it felt special and for certain had something to teach you. Empress is saying love is in the cards for you this year but I don't think it will be similar to what you had, that will only bring you down (5 of Pentacles).

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posted January 14, 2013 03:41 PM            

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Why would you want to have the same situation repeated? I think the Judgment card is telling you exactly that. Past is in the past, let it be. It brought you sadness (5 of Cups), even though I am sure it felt special and for certain had something to teach you. Empress is saying love is in the cards for you this year but I don't think it will be similar to what you had, that will only bring you down (5 of Pentacles).

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I don't want the same situation, Hera, I want the same intensity and beauty of feelings. I wouldnt be able to forgive anyone for not becoming what I need in a lover. And I'm not an idiot, I know how difficult it is to inspire feelings in me. What I don't massively like about Empress is that she's not about the heavenly, not about divine love tha comes from God. I don't need some travesty of true love.

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posted January 15, 2013 11:26 AM            

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I understand, but my impression from these cards is that this experience is going to be more earthy, sensual, more concrete and palpable, indeed not as spiritual as you might like from what you have shared, but since it will be happening to you, for certain there is a purpose to it.

Good luck!

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posted January 15, 2013 11:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
I understand, but my impression from these cards is that this experience is going to be more earthy, sensual, more concrete and palpable, indeed not as spiritual as you might like from what you have shared, but since it will be happening to you, for certain there is a purpose to it.

Good luck!

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it's just that i read 5 pents as lovers. well almost. has proven to be right a billion times.

well earthly romance is for base earthly people, what can i say. i can ditch it before it comes into my life, for sure.

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posted January 15, 2013 11:35 AM            

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Have you tried earthy romance? Just wondering. You how that saying goes, "don't knock it 'till you try it"

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posted January 15, 2013 11:36 AM            

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Lol, sure, you have free will to do so if it is not your cup of tea..

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posted January 15, 2013 11:42 AM            

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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
Have you tried earthy romance? Just wondering. You how that saying goes, "don't knock it 'till you try it"

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i didn't mean "no sex", i meant spiritualised sex, i can't really consider anything different. and no i haven't tried. i have tried normal dating too, it didn't work. i know whats good for me and what isnt. i can't go back to loving less than i used to. and if i know anything its like when there's not any of this "angels are dreaming of you business" i'll feel screwed. in all senses of the word

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posted January 15, 2013 11:46 AM            

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Lol, sure, you have free will to do so if it is not your cup of tea..

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no you just mentioned there being a purpose and i was shocked that's all. surely there can be no purpose

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posted January 15, 2013 11:49 AM            

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no you just mentioned there being a purpose and i was shocked that's all. surely there can be no purpose

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How do you know unless you try?
I generally believe that most of the things that happen to us (the important stuff) do have a purpose, even though you might not like it, might be outside your comfort zone, or not make any sense in the beginning. Eventually the pieces of the puzzle fit together. That is what I meant. Nothing and nobody can make you do something you don't want to do. You have all the power and control in how you react to what happens to you.

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posted January 15, 2013 11:52 AM            

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Oh I wasn't talking about sex at all o_o

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i didn't mean "no sex", i meant spiritualised sex, i can't really consider anything different. and no i haven't tried. i have tried normal dating too, it didn't work. i know whats good for me and what isnt. i can't go back to loving less than i used to. and if i know anything its like when there's not any of this "angels are dreaming of you business" i'll feel screwed. in all senses of the word

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posted January 15, 2013 11:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
How do you know unless you try?
I generally believe that most of the things that happen to us (the important stuff) do have a purpose, even though you might not like it, might be outside your comfort zone, or not make any sense in the beginning. Eventually the pieces of the puzzle fit together. That is what I meant. Nothing and nobody can make you do something you don't want to do. You have all the power and control in how you react to what happens to you.

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how important is some rabbits' f**king? how can it be within my comfort zone, knowing my greatest love is in the past and that i'm reduced to some half-living with god knows who?? if there's a lesson in something this horrible perhaps better not learn it.

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posted January 15, 2013 11:57 AM            

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Oh I wasn't talking about sex at all o_o

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eh soz

whats your definition of earthly then? because well at the end of the day this Empress [i am referring to the card] is not about spirit, everyone knows that.

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posted January 15, 2013 12:12 PM            

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The Empress to me often refers to another woman , but that's from my personal experience. It doesn't fit to your cards, I know. I'm not sure how to interpret your cards, but I wish you luck .

Oh, but I can say no. Judgement is you not healing from the past or letting it go, 5 of Cups disappointment..nothing that will be offered to you will be enough if you're still thinking about the past that you haven't healed from.

Can you relate to this?

"The Reversed Judgement Card finds you standing at the cross-roads but fear holds you back from making a decision about which direction to take. You may know deep down what you want but still worry about how others will judge you. You may desire a complete change or transformation but feel blocked or you may resist any sort of transformation or change preferring to stay as you are regardless of how dreary it is or how unhappy you are. When Judgement Reverses it represents a time of being spiritually empty or hungry. As a result, instead of looking within for the source of this hunger, you may turn to material things or even addictive substances to fill the void. You may feel your life has been a waste of time and that you are too old or it is too late to make the necessary changes. A deep unhappiness and lack of fulfilment can cause negativity and bitterness. It is never to late to live. Reversed Judgement can suggest a fear of getting old and dying."

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posted January 15, 2013 12:21 PM            

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The Empress to me often refers to another woman , but that's from my personal experience. It doesn't fit to your cards, I know. I'm not sure how to interpret your cards, but I wish you luck .

Oh, but I can say no. Judgement is you not healing from the past or letting it go, 5 of Cups disappointment..nothing that will be offered to you will be enough if you're still thinking about the past that you haven't healed from.

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un clavo saca a otro clavo - i think this is what they say?? otherwise the nail is not good enough

thanks for your thoughts though

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Just seen your edit. Well this might partly fit, BUT it's upright, I don't use reversals. *Confused*

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posted January 15, 2013 12:24 PM            

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LOL nice Spanish I like.

Yes, but to me it's reversed or blocked =D. Water puts out fire..elemental dignities.

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posted January 15, 2013 12:26 PM            

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And elemental dignities is why I often don't try to interpret someone else's card if there's a blockage because not everyone uses them, so it leaves me thinking..should I even??

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posted January 15, 2013 12:35 PM            

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And elemental dignities is why I often don't try to interpret someone else's card if there's a blockage because not everyone uses them, so it leaves me thinking..should I even??

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hm well the problem is i'm afraid that I can relate to this, more or less do you have a link to this method or something?

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posted January 15, 2013 12:42 PM            

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Well, what I did when I started using them (March 2011) is to memorize all the elements of each card. Fire (Wands), Water (Cups), Earth (Coins) and Air (Swords) [Plus the Major Arcana]

Fire and Water are enemies. Next to the other they become weak (or reversed/ill-dignified)

Earth and Air are enemies as well. Any other combination is friendly.

I don't use the method as it originally is intended to (might confuse you, but here's a link - http://supertarot.co.uk/lessons/elemental-dignity-rules.htm

I don't really use it that way. I only give reverse meanings to cards that weaken the other and fall next to each other. In your reading Judgment (Fire) is weakened by 5 of Cups (Water) so they are blocking each other, thus becoming reversed.

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posted January 15, 2013 12:46 PM            

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Heeeey this is interesting. I might keep that in mind and see if this works. The strengthening bit is also quite.... interesting. I'm kinda curious whether this is also true.

But then why not the other way round, on second thoughts? Would Judgment not weaken 5 cups? Such as a crucial event that wipes off disappointment?

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posted January 15, 2013 12:59 PM            

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I see it as reversed also 5 of Cups reversed

(but this is just me)

I do hope it helps you though and good luck!

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posted January 15, 2013 01:01 PM            

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"When the Five of Cups Reverses, it is time to let go the past and turn towards the future. This may involve you also having to forgive and forget. On the other hand you may be unable to or refuse to move on from your pain and sorrow, especially if you deny your loss. With this Reversed Five comes the tendency to feel the victim or martyr as a result of your experience or experiences in life. Negativity attracts more negativity so if you see yourself as the Mother of Sorrows, then, so shall you be, and life will mimic your beliefs. Your big black cloak becomes your second skin and a dark cloud hovers above you constantly. You are a misery to be around and leach all joy from the atmosphere. However you may be putting on a brave front to all but secretly dying inside. Wanting to protect others, especially children, from witnessing your grief or sadness, you may internalise it while maintaining a business as normal attitude. Deep depression may be manifesting."

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