posted January 31, 2013 09:08 AM            

My mom had an experience with the ouija board when she was younger, and the little girl they contacted's spirit would not leave her alone.

Does anyone in here who uses tarot cards a lot have any stories like that?

posted January 31, 2013 09:36 AM            

I also always wear psychic stones for protection when reading. I don't mess with Ouija boards and such ,as that is channeling and opening the porthole.

posted January 31, 2013 01:18 PM            

. If we approach the cards w fear & inhibitions, these will become a self fulfilling prophecy as with anything else. The idea of cards being evil, can be transferred into so many other things-astrology, numerology, even psychology as all open the doors of knowledge and self understanding. In my view, all of these and many others are related into the same concept: tapping into energy w the intent to understand patterns or the why.

Yes there can be discomfort when one opens a door into the psyche, as hidden feelings/thoughts can be brought to the surface. There can be discomfort also in reading or providing counseling to another, and observing negative or hurtful emotions/thoughts being brought to the surface. Much as a counselor of the mind shields him/herself by remaining an observer vs a participant, so does a counselor of spirit.

I don't know... Just seems to me when we start placing power into tools as more than just tools that we dismiss our own power/responsibility. Reminds me of an old movie in which a priest had a sacred silver cross used for vampyre hunting.

Well one day, he faced the vampyre and couldn't find his cross (tool). In paralyzed fear, the vamp destroyed him.. The lesson being that the power to defend/fight back was within himself the whole time, not the cross. Failing to feel this, he fell to his end.

In conclusion, that's my perspective tools are tools and people are people. People all have negatives/positives and power in self understanding & responsibility. To believe the cards or astrology are evil, is like saying this happened because the devil made me do it (in my humble opinion). The cards or astro charts are just a map and tool. We make them be whatever it is we wish to fit into our own belief systems. Nothing more nothing less.

posted January 31, 2013 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I saw on the internet Aliester Crowley is a devil worshipper lol. So what's the story behind that?

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posted January 31, 2013 06:56 PM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixFire:
The cards aren't good or evil, they are just cards. Tools used to tap into energy patterns of synchronicity. The cards aren't to blame for negative occurrences, as outer experiences are a reflection of our inner selves. Meaning our own fears and thoughts of guilt being projected into outer reality

. If we approach the cards w fear & inhibitions, these will become a self fulfilling prophecy as with anything else. The idea of cards being evil, can be transferred into so many other things-astrology, numerology, even psychology as all open the doors of knowledge and self understanding. In my view, all of these and many others are related into the same concept: tapping into energy w the intent to understand patterns or the why.

Yes there can be discomfort when one opens a door into the psyche, as hidden feelings/thoughts can be brought to the surface. There can be discomfort also in reading or providing counseling to another, and observing negative or hurtful emotions/thoughts being brought to the surface. Much as a counselor of the mind shields him/herself by remaining an observer vs a participant, so does a counselor of spirit.

I don't know... Just seems to me when we start placing power into tools as more than just tools that we dismiss our own power/responsibility. Reminds me of an old movie in which a priest had a sacred silver cross used for vampyre hunting.

Well one day, he faced the vampyre and couldn't find his cross (tool). In paralyzed fear, the vamp destroyed him.. The lesson being that the power to defend/fight back was within himself the whole time, not the cross. Failing to feel this, he fell to his end.

In conclusion, that's my perspective tools are tools and people are people. People all have negatives/positives and power in self understanding & responsibility. To believe the cards or astrology are evil, is like saying this happened because the devil made me do it (in my humble opinion). The cards or astro charts are just a map and tool. We make them be whatever it is we wish to fit into our own belief systems. Nothing more nothing less.

Just my own two cents/view

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Well said PhoenixFire
If your soul and motives are not ego driven or out to profit from the suffering of others;
ie;
you have a clear conscience;
then the "tools" of divination,
no matter what type;
be it Tarot, Astrology, Ouija, Stones, and many other methods employing different tools;
is not evil and will not open doors to evil, unless some aspect of the tool user is not good and or has clouded things via their own baggage/dogma/fears/preconceptions.
Also those who do not treat the tools seriously will get all types of nonsense and
even perceived scary things.
these are not toys to play with or get ones jollies from.
These things are only tools nothing more.
The user determines the good/safety or not of these tools of divination.
And yes;
a person's dogmatic beliefs and fears too often sadly cloud their use of these tools.
It is best one lets go of or puts aside all of that and simply read without tainting the reading with their own baggage/beliefs.

posted February 01, 2013 10:49 AM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixFire:
The cards aren't good or evil, they are just cards. Tools used to tap into energy patterns of synchronicity. The cards aren't to blame for negative occurrences, as outer experiences are a reflection of our inner selves. Meaning our own fears and thoughts of guilt being projected into outer reality

. If we approach the cards w fear & inhibitions, these will become a self fulfilling prophecy as with anything else. The idea of cards being evil, can be transferred into so many other things-astrology, numerology, even psychology as all open the doors of knowledge and self understanding. In my view, all of these and many others are related into the same concept: tapping into energy w the intent to understand patterns or the why.

Yes there can be discomfort when one opens a door into the psyche, as hidden feelings/thoughts can be brought to the surface. There can be discomfort also in reading or providing counseling to another, and observing negative or hurtful emotions/thoughts being brought to the surface. Much as a counselor of the mind shields him/herself by remaining an observer vs a participant, so does a counselor of spirit.

I don't know... Just seems to me when we start placing power into tools as more than just tools that we dismiss our own power/responsibility. Reminds me of an old movie in which a priest had a sacred silver cross used for vampyre hunting.

Well one day, he faced the vampyre and couldn't find his cross (tool). In paralyzed fear, the vamp destroyed him.. The lesson being that the power to defend/fight back was within himself the whole time, not the cross. Failing to feel this, he fell to his end.

In conclusion, that's my perspective tools are tools and people are people. People all have negatives/positives and power in self understanding & responsibility. To believe the cards or astrology are evil, is like saying this happened because the devil made me do it (in my humble opinion). The cards or astro charts are just a map and tool. We make them be whatever it is we wish to fit into our own belief systems. Nothing more nothing less.

Just my own two cents/view

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