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Topic: Please have a quick look? Hera? Horary..
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EmpressMendez
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posted March 01, 2013 08:21 AM
  
I need someone that knows a lot about horary like Hera if you can, please..I want to know what this horary means with VOC+Via Combusta Moon in one. I'm Saturn rx in 9th house via combusta, but I read that if Saturn is here then it doesn't affect it. So, I guess I'm not the one that's going to get hurt, but the other person is? I notice Moon will conjunct Saturn soon. Will these events still happen?? It seems I will hurt this other person's feelings, or something [if it does happen]. From what I understand VOC Moon shows that nothing of importance will come of the matter, so it seems I will reject this person. He really likes me (Moon in Libra where Saturn is exalted), but I'm where the Moon is at fall (Scorpio). Moon conjunct fixed star Spica shows that the Moon is somewhat protected (not too sure, but this shields its feelings a bit, I suppose) .. My question was "when will I be in a relationship again?" I believe the reason I'm retrograde is because I'm not ready to be in a relationship ( want to wait for at least June or something), and frankly I don't want to right now. I just want to be by myself (hence Saturn rx in 9th house). I want commitment, no flings or any of the likes & don't want to treat someone like a rebound either. What do you think? I can offer a Tarot or Lenormand reading in exchange if you wish. Please no beginners I really need an answer, sorry  thanks!
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EmpressMendez
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posted March 01, 2013 09:18 AM
"So far, every time I have seen a Moon in Via Combusta, with the exception of being right on Spica (an oasis of good luck in the burned road, posited on about 25th degrees of Libra), proves to give a negative outcome for the question.
Caution here: not a negative “answer” necessarily, a negative “outcome”."I wonder what this weird horary means ... since Moon is on Spica (right on it) then it's not as bad as I thought...hopefully.. "What is the Via Combusta? In the tropical zodiac, the area between 15 Libra and 15 Scorpio is called the Via Combusta or Fiery Way. It is considered hazardous in horary charts, especially if the Sun, Moon or Ascendant is found there. The only 'safe' haven or 'protected' degrees, are the fixed star Spica at 23 Libra 50' and the fixed star Arcturus at 24 Libra 14'. These beneficial stars defuse the intense effects of the Via Combusta." IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted March 01, 2013 11:38 AM
Moon in the Via Combusta: The last stricture is if the Moon is in the Via Combusta; 15 degrees of Libra to 15 degrees of Scorpio. Traditionally, this portion of the zodiac contained several malevolent fixed stars that debilitated a planet.Seginus, at 17 Libra was associated with loss through friends and companies; disgrace and ruin. Foramen, a redish star at 22 Libra, was associated with peril. Because the precession of the equinoxes now places the traditional Via Combusta some ten degrees earlier, this stricture is often ignored. Here, however, the Moon is said to function similar to Moon conjunct Uranus, indicating abrupt changes that will alter the situation and/or bring an unfavorable outcome for the Querent. The exception to this stricture is if the Moon is in the 23rd-24th degree of Libra. These degrees traditionally partake of the fortune from two beneficial fixed stars. Spika, also known as Arista is a twinned star at 23 Libra, bringing unexpected advancement and honor beyond all hopes or capacity. Arcturus was said to bring riches, honor and high renown. A reference in the Library by Vivian Robson, called Fixed Stars & Constellations covers each of the fixed stars, their zodiac position and meaning. From: http://www.moonvalleyastrologer.com/horary-astrology/
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EmpressMendez
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posted March 01, 2013 11:41 AM
Yes Imenaj I got that (see 2nd post) thanks  IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted March 01, 2013 12:19 PM
Sorry, I'm too subtle at times. 1 - She says 23 or 24, not 25 degrees. And likewise that it's the Querent that is affected. 2 - I'd love to read where it says Saturn is protected. i.e. is this because Saturn is exalted in Libra? (though that would be at 21 degrees and here your Saturn looks like its in Scorpio.) Thanks for sharing! 3 - VOC - Is between 27-3 degrees, here it is at 25. 4 - Anthony Louis' book on Horay answers most questions - Kindle Edition is only about $10. Likewise, some chapters are available online. Good luck! IP: Logged |
imeanj
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posted March 01, 2013 12:25 PM
p. 61
http://books.google.com/books?id=pzaPpyZFzpEC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false
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EmpressMendez
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posted March 01, 2013 01:13 PM
Yes, but I have checked various sources that actually said 25, so I will go by that.Saturn is a malefic planet & it isn't affected by the via combusta. That's what I have read so far. Moon in Scorpio will be @ fall. Moon receives me in exaltation, as oppose to me - it seems I dislike Moon or something. My calendar says the moon was voc when I casted this chart, but I want to make sure.
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EmpressMendez
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posted March 01, 2013 01:15 PM
Bump, Can someone with personal experience with voc/via combusta moon with spica moon tell me about the outcome of their question? Or try to interpret mine? Only if you have the experience though. I can offer a Lenormand or Tarot reading in exchange. Thanks in advanceIP: Logged |
Hera
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posted March 01, 2013 04:16 PM
Hi, Empress! Sorry I didn't see this until now. I think your interpretation is accurate, also imeanj's. If there isn't a specific person you were inquiring about, then the fact that Moon is in your exaltation could mean that there is/are admirers out there but it seems that in terms of a committed relationship "nothing will come of it". Indeed, it seems you are working on your own issues, being more focused on your inner work rather than putting much energy into relationships. The fact that you are in Scorpio proves you want something meaningful and not a fling. However, for the next 3 months (the validity of horary charts) it seems this will not happen. I do see, though, some admirers there and you will be approached by a few. I am seeing 3 potential aspects, closest is the Sun, ruler of your 8th. Sun is someone you probably already know or at least have met even if just passing by because you are in his face (lol @how that sounds ^_^) and this could be an intimate relationship but more sex-oriented. There's also Mercury applying to you but you don't seem interested in him, though he rules your 5th house and could be a fun encounter but it is not what you are looking for. Venus is someone you really dislike, oddly it deposits Moon ruler of DC which you also dislike. You are not in a dating mood right now, but there are options out there for you so it seems like when you will be ready (go direct again) you might see them with different eyes. For now, being RX, in Scorpio (a sign of depth) and also in Via Combusta (which to me, in this context, means search beyond the appearances, for the deeper aspects of life, because Via Combusta also deals with the hidden), it seems there are other things which preoccupy you for the time being (pertaining more to things like faith and spirituality from the looks of it, the 9th is a spiritual house). This makes you turn your attention from the dating world and also to view potential partners differently than you might under different circumstances. It is because of this, I believe, that Moon is VOC, sustaining that while in this mind frame you will probably reject suitors and find deeper meanings in your inner life. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted March 01, 2013 05:40 PM
Wow, Hera. Thanks so much & you're 100% accurate!!
That's how I feel. I have to work on myself, inner issues, depression, etc before I can allow myself to experience that. I'm also planning on taking a mini vacation around May and stuff. So you are very right & yes more than 1 suitor..I have rejected 4, but I feel bad because they might think I dislike them, but it's not them it's me..-sighLol, I think (hope) Sun is my crush (saw him today @ my kid's school..weird eye contact..hehe) he's gorgeous..ahh I feel like a school girl when I see him, no good..lol. I haven't rejected him, but I act like I don't like him..poker face last week he opened the door for me, and I didn't even say thank you :/ lol..little things like that might make it seem I'm not into him. So, if you have a question for Lenormand or Tarot please let me know. Thank you again IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted March 02, 2013 01:14 PM
Thank you for offering, Empress! To be honest, when I read the horary I didn't need anything in return, just happy I could help. But now I must confess I am a bit curious about your Lenormand readings! ^_^ But only if you have the time or mood to do so, I didn't come here with that in mind. I would like to know what your cards would say about my chances with P, for a committed relationship, maybe marriage  Thank you and no rush or pressure on my part! IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted March 03, 2013 10:47 AM
Sure, no problem.I have a question about the horary since I'm trying to learn . How did you gather that I really dislike Venus from this? Don't understand how. Reception is a bit confusing & just found out that it's really the other way around. I like "Moon" (whatever it represents), but "Moon" doesn't like me (@ fall in Scorp). Thus, I'm not in the shape to allow a relationship in my life. Last night, one invited me to the movies, but I said no. And M is contacting me again after 1 month of silence, but it's all superficial because I haven't met any of these men in real life. Don't really want to talk to M & told him to forget about me last night, but he keeps insisting. But I would like to know how I don't like Venus (noticed it's combust) lol sorry it's confusing. The only one I get to see in real life is the crush, but I don't really speak to him (if it isn't about school that is). I don't think he's single anyway..oh & the Sun/face thing is it because of its degrees? Would it be someone I actually do see in real life? Is there anything about Sun taht would hint who he is? (Sorry for sll the q's!). I know this voc/via combusta isn't happening, but just curious/want to learn :3. I'm in a defensive/dangerous path on the chart where most of these planets aren't comfortable. Hmm I would think Venus would dislike me since I'm in Scorpio where she's in detriment. Not sure who any of them are, but I don't pursue them, lol. Maybe the reception here means they don't like what I seek in a relationship, they just want flings.. But thanks for helping & I will work on your reading soon... IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted March 03, 2013 01:13 PM
You don't like Venus because you're in Venus's detriment. You also don't like Moon because you're in Moon's fall. Reception is confusing but this is how I use it and it holds. I don't interpret horary in a classic sense, I have picked up various styles from various places lol so I am not the best one to learn from lol. I don't follow all of Lilly's rules, but I follow *some*. lol There are some rules that I disregard completely. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted March 03, 2013 01:14 PM
I see! That's how I use it too and it made sense until someone said I was doing it wrong  . LOL, well it works for me so screw it :P.Thanks again. I will do your Lenormand soon. Do you want to ask something more specific? Just in case.. quote:
Originally posted by Hera:
You don't like Venus because you're in Venus's detriment. You also don't like Moon because you're in Moon's fall. Reception is confusing but this is how I use it and it holds. I don't interpret horary in a classic sense, I have picked up various styles from various places lol so I am not the best one to learn from lol. I don't follow all of Lilly's rules, but I follow *some*. lol
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Hera
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posted March 03, 2013 01:21 PM
More specific? lol Nope, just what the cards have to say about me and P. If you want to get a bit of a "feeling" behind it, he's a Scorp, I'm an Aries; he's American, I'm from Europe. We meet this spring for the first time, I am going there yay!! Not for him, but since I'm there.. lol So far, so good, he is like my male version in many ways but hmmmmyeah! What can I say, I like complicated love affairs or else I don't get in them lmao. I'll let the cards speak from here on. Thanks a lot!!  IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted March 10, 2013 01:32 AM
Hey Hera,Just want to let you know that I'll do your reading, but have been very stressed lately with everything. I haven't forgotten IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted March 10, 2013 03:34 AM
It's cool, no worries. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted March 10, 2013 02:26 PM
Hey . I remember the last reading I gave you about the other Scorpio. Did things end badly? I remember seeing the Snake popping up on that..did he have someone else? Just curious for feedback purpose, you don't have to answer it though =P. Okay here goes...Moon+Coffin+Book+Bear+Mice What I sense from this draw (looks kind of dark) . Well, i just see that either you guys won't get to meet/know each other too well, or when you do meet in real life that you will just know he's not the one you're looking for to have a long term committed relationship with. Your feelings for him might change once you truly get to know him as a person, and something about him will just turn you off. For some reason it seems he will be too mysterious, or secretive about things, and you won't really like that part of him. Maybe someone is/will be depressed with things and it won't go as you hope for. Maybe the timing is just off, and you will need some more time. I hope this is wrong and the opposite happens! I wish you the best & I'm so sorry the reading didn't turn out to be more positive. Keep me updated if you can. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted March 10, 2013 02:46 PM
Thank you so much!
Yes, on the old Scorpio. Well thing is he didn't want smth serious, but I did/do. He has, since then, seen various "Snakes" and it put me off.
I've been getting Mice with the new Scorpio a lot in readings. I was much more optimistic in the beginning, about us. In many ways he seemed like my male version. But I also think that the meeting will clear things out. I will definitely *know* (though I might not want to admit it) if he is or not for me. But yeah I suppose I anticipate the same about him.. esp lately, something is off. 2 months to go.. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted April 30, 2013 02:36 AM
Bump. Hera, would love if you could provide feedback on this. IP: Logged | |
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